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Patty H
Saturday, June 18, 2011, 3:43pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Patty i dont have the genotype book but i knw im A+ secretor and dont knw the subtype and i have a measuring tape is this enough?


FitnessAddict, it would be helpful if you could add the + to your avatar.  That give us more info.  A measuring tape and a ruler should be all you need.  There are a couple of videos on taking the measurements you need.  I'll see if I can figure out where they are and post the links.  You should have a friend do the measuring.  It will be more accurate.  Also, for some people, simply looking at the length of your ring fingers vs. your index fingers is all you need.  Often times, it is very easy to determine which is longer.

Knowing that you are an A+ secretor, we can already rule out Explorer, so you are either aTeacher or a Warrior, as it appears that only A- can be Explorer.

A word of caution, here, however.  Some people have found that when they purchase a SWAMI, their genotype changes from the one they determined in the book.  This is because SWAMI incorporates a lot more individual information.  However, since you can be only a Teacher or Warrior, your choices are narrowed and you can look at the similarities between the diets.


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Patty H
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Here you go:

Measuring torso and leg length

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnmUUVuVMA

Measuring finger length

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qdAvuNjsc

Hope this helps!  


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FitnessAddict
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Thank you Patty so very much . Actually there's no A+ sec avatar, i posted a thread asking for one .. thx for the info and the very useful videos.. Lets see which one i am Teacher or a Warrior   ..


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FitnessAddict
Saturday, June 18, 2011, 7:22pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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From what im reading im so a Teacher!!!! but i guess we'll wait until after the measurements..


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Victoria
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When you measure your fingers, close enough is not enough.  I found that a transparent ruler helps with precision.  Also, measuring on the palm side of the fingers instead of between them.



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AKArtlover
Sunday, June 19, 2011, 12:52am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hard exercise is known to up cortisol in type A's.

You might look at Tulsi tea (Holy Basil). It is mentioned in the BTD Encyclopedia for helping A's with cortisol. I have some gene SNP's that it REALLY helps me with, so I have it awhile after exercise or when I get upset.

http://www.amazon.com/Organic-.....308444665&sr=8-5

Blessings and hope you are having sweet dreams soon.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Patty H
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Thank you Patty so very much . Actually there's no A+ sec avatar, i posted a thread asking for one .. thx for the info and the very useful videos.. Lets see which one i am Teacher or a Warrior   ..


Let us know what you find out, FitnessAddict!  It can only enhance your progress on the diet to know your genotype.  I agree with Victoria.  Measure your fingers, which is why I posted the video.  With some people it is so obvious, but with others, measurements are necessary.  Either way, if you get a SWAMI, you will need to input the measurements, so while you have a friend to help, just do it!  


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Easy E
Sunday, June 19, 2011, 1:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Beef is a neutral for me.
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Easy E
Sunday, June 19, 2011, 1:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Patty H, that is not accurate info about explorers and the rh factor.  Explorers can in fact be rh positive.  Being negative is a sign, but not needed to be an explorer.
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Patty H
Monday, June 20, 2011, 3:45am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Patty H, that is not accurate info about explorers and the rh factor.  Explorers can in fact be rh positive.  Being negative is a sign, but not needed to be an explorer.


That may be the case.  I just looked at the Advanced Calculator in the back of the GenoType book and for type A+ secretors, which FitnessAddict confirmed, no matter what the torso length, upper or lower leg length or index finger vs. ring finger, the only type A's I saw in the advanced calculator who were Explorers are Rhesus negative and/or non-secretors.  I just checked the advanced calculator again, and I believe that this is what the book says.  What I did say was that A+ secretors can only be teacher or warrior.  What I forgot to say is that not only can A- be Explorer, but A non-secretors, so maybe leaving that part out was confusing.  I think that A+ secretors can only be teachers or warriors.

Maybe I missed something?  It would be great if someone can check my accuracy with the book.  I did comment that SWAMI is more advanced and that with SWAMI, FitnessAddict's genotype could change.


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I am an A+ secretor Explorer, but that is per SWAMI by Dr. D. I don't have the books or kit handy.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Beef is a neutral for me.

wow! i never thought that would be possible, lucky explorers!  i guess i should stop walking around preaching that A's should not eat beef, they might be explorers! LoL!


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from what i've read im so not a warrior! and im 98% a teacher it explains alot!!

what are the recommended exercises for teachers?


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I think that is because of his A2 subtype. Hmmm...


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oh, so not all ! these things im learning are making so wanna get a SWAMI i never thought we were THAT individualized ..


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The book says teachers need regular vigorous exercise that balances both more and less demanding stuff.  Light stuff is light weight work, yoga, etc. and more demanding is moderate competitive sports like tennis, raquetball, moderate weight work, fast paced walking, hiking etc.  I'm sure there are many exercises a teacher could do, but they need the relaxed exercises to cool down and balance out the heavy stuff.  
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Patty H
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FitnessAddict, a SWAMI will certainly help you confirm your genotype.  Did you also read the Explorer and Warrior info to see if some of that makes sense?  Most of us are a combination, but we follow the diet that has the strongest percentage.  For instance, I think Dr. Nash pegged me at 48-50% Hunter, but I definitely have some Explorer tendancies, such as unusual fingerprints for a Hunter, a rare blood antigen, so SWAMI can factor that into my personal diet and be sure that those Explorer tendancies are addressed in my diet as well.

By the way, I checked the book a third time, and according to the book, A + secretors, using the Advanced Calculator can only be Teacher or Warrior, so I assume that SWAMI has just expanded the definition and parameters allowing for Explorers with those three attributes, depending upon other factors.  

Given all of this, I think you should get a SWAMI if you can afford it  


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Easy E
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Patty H, what type of rare blood antigen do you have and what fingerprints do you have that are unusual for hunters?  I'm just interested in this stuff and trying to learn

BTW, i saw the same thing when i looked at my book today.  That is right! Though i have not done my secretor test, can't afford it now most evidence from measurements, body build (meso-ectomorphic) and psych traits, plus being ambidextrous and having different prints on my thumbs and ring fingers, plus doing well with the explorer diet have lead me to believe i am an explorer.  Plus the exercise protocols help me for explorers, as i seem to truly be a slower acetylator.  I therefore must be a non secretor, though i have no actual proof.
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Secretors can be slow acetylator's, too. Well, at least I can. But I like to think, perhaps, I'm getting better at it.

I do know that SWAMI Pro (if not Xpress)-- it's been awhile-- also has the option of overriding the data to choose the primary genotype, so someone experienced can override or choose to do something for a specific purpose. Overriding for a person who had fought cancer, for instance.

I typed Warrior per the advanced calculator, but was having issues and was uncertain so went to see Dr. D to get it sorted. I'm the rare bird, so it was good that I went. My strength test in all columns was pretty high and my prints have a lot of asymmetry (and at the time, lots of white lines as my gut was a wreck).

I love my SWAMI. It doesn't matter what the label says as it's individualized. Now, I'm about to bust out a new level of getting serious with it and getting the variety in.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Patty H
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Patty H, what type of rare blood antigen do you have and what fingerprints do you have that are unusual for hunters?  I'm just interested in this stuff and trying to learn

BTW, i saw the same thing when i looked at my book today.  That is right! Though i have not done my secretor test, can't afford it now most evidence from measurements, body build (meso-ectomorphic) and psych traits, plus being ambidextrous and having different prints on my thumbs and ring fingers, plus doing well with the explorer diet have lead me to believe i am an explorer.  Plus the exercise protocols help me for explorers, as i seem to truly be a slower acetylator.  I therefore must be a non secretor, though i have no actual proof.


Easy E, in the 1950's my father and uncles were the first people ever discovered with the Mg antigen, which is in the MN blood system.  Several doctors studied our family and their work was pubished in Vox Sanguinus in 1958, of the discovery of the angiten.  I believe the g in Mg stands for my maiden name, Gilfeather.  I was not born when the study was conducted.  I had myself tested recently and have the antigen as do both of my two children.

Regarding my fingerprints, I am not sure what unusual ones I have.  I went for an appointment with Dr. Nash at Dr. D's clinic in Connecticut.  They took my fingerprints there and she mentioned unusual fingerprints.  As I said, she was sure I was an Explorer, so maybe I had either Radial Loops or different fingerprint patterns on my left and right inex fingers    Both of these are characteristic of Explorers.

Since you know your blood type and Rhesus type, I am assuming you used the Intermediate Calculator in the book?  You don't need to do the strength testing with the Intermediate Calculator, just the basic measurements needed for basic genotyping and knowing your blood type.  You should not assume you are a non-secretor.  If you have health insurance, they may cover the cost of the test to see if you are a non-secretor.  You would want to ask your insurance company if they cover blood typing.  If so, you should ask your doctor for an order to draw blood to test for Lewis Phenotyping and MN Phenotyping.  Or you could ask for a seropanel.  Just be sure that the Lewis Phenotyping is part of it.  You would also want to check for A1 or A2, to give you more information.  I am not an expert at this, so maybe you could do a search on the site regarding serotyping panel.

If you like the Explorer diet and it seems to be working for you and be a good fit, then by all means keep it up!  


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Saw on a program today that if you consume tart cherry juice early in the evening, it will overload you with melatonin and help you sleep. Perhaps a shake with ground pumpkin seeds and whatever else compliant you like will help.
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can't sleep again!! yesterday i was so sleepy i would've slept like a baby, but i decided to drink 2 glasses of lemonade, each glass half a lemon. i slept like 3 hours and woke up, im like so weak and my heart is beating faster than the usual and just so sensitive and weak, didnt sleep since then. . i think im sensitive to vit c..


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