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How can this knowledge be applied?

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In contrast to bifidobacteria, several bacterial genotypes were more common and the richness (p<0.04) of dominant bacteria as detected by PCR-DGGE was higher in the non-secretor individuals than in the secretor individuals.
I wish the study mentioned which bacteria are found more predominantly among non-secretors.
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I wonder if adding those "missing" strains of bif. would be beneficial or if non-secretor's bodies just can't support them (because of glycans, etc.)?

It makes me miss school - I used to run PCR gels


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I wonder if adding those "missing" strains of bif. would be beneficial or if non-secretor's bodies just can't support them (because of glycans, etc.)?

It makes me miss school - I used to run PCR gels


Yes I wonder if there is a specific probiotic that is beneficial to us...that could go a long way in healing the gut, which I suffer with all the time...now I see why it was so hard to get rid of candida...I hope you get your secretor status done Brinky, I think you're a nonnie too...
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I hope you get your secretor status done Brinky, I think you're a nonnie too...


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The gut flora is so important to overall health. I do not think we need to concern ourselves with which types of flora are in nonnies versus secretors.

The diets BTD/GTD  take care of the gut, removing harmful lectins eating benes builds up the gut flora.


  This study just confirms for me how special Dr. D'Adamo's work is and how important it is to tell people about it.


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The gut flora is so important to overall health. I do not think we need to concern ourselves with which types of flora are in nonnies versus secretors.

The diets BTD/GTD  take care of the gut, removing harmful lectins eating benes builds up the gut flora.


  This study just confirms for me how special Dr. D'Adamo's work is and how important it is to tell people about it.


although removing lectins and eating beneficials does help with gut flora, non-secretors are obviously at a disadvantage, and the article suggests that problems such as IBD could be more prevelent in nonnies because of the lower levels of bifidobacteria.  With a suggestion like that, try telling a non-secretor with IBD that we don't need to concern ourselves with it.  It may end up being of little importance, but gut flora is very important so the gut flora-nonnie connection may be very important as well.


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I wish the study mentioned which bacteria are found more predominantly among non-secretors.

Me too!  I just went downstairs to take my probiotic capsule.
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On an aside, I took a Polyflora-B on Tuesday, and yesterday I had a terrible bout of fatigue.  I had used them to culture some veggies, but I haven't actually taken a whole capsule in some time.  I've been through that before with Polyflora, but thought I'd give it another chance.  Alas, they are probably going to be forever out of the question for me now.  If only it didn't contain baker's yeast, I think it would do me a lot of good, but I'm just too reactive to yeasts and fungi.

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On an aside, I took a Polyflora-B on Tuesday, and yesterday I had a terrible bout of fatigue.  I had used them to culture some veggies, but I haven't actually taken a whole capsule in some time.  I've been through that before with Polyflora, but thought I'd give it another chance.  Alas, they are probably going to be forever out of the question for me now.  If only it didn't contain baker's yeast, I think it would do me a lot of good, but I'm just too reactive to yeasts and fungi.

Sometimes it really sucks to be an Explorer.


TJ, sorry you are having so much trouble with Polyflora.  I have been taking it for a month and it has really helped me.  I have fatigue also, but don't notice that Polyflor affects that in any way.
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although removing lectins and eating beneficials does help with gut flora, non-secretors are obviously at a disadvantage, and the article suggests that problems such as IBD could be more prevelent in nonnies because of the lower levels of bifidobacteria.  With a suggestion like that, try telling a non-secretor with IBD that we don't need to concern ourselves with it.  It may end up being of little importance, but gut flora is very important so the gut flora-nonnie connection may be very important as well.


Yes that is why your nonnie diet is different then a secretors diet.    So know your secretor status and get on the correct diet.  
  Dr. D has been studying this for  quite some time. This mainstream article is evidence of what he has been saying for a long time.


here is an article from Dr. D non secretors and secretors and diseases.
http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Secretor_Status





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It's already clear that different ABO blood types are better suited to different kinds of probiotic supplements.  Do the finding of this article suggest that secretors and non-secretors should have different kinds of probiotic supplements?
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It's already clear that different ABO blood types are better suited to different kinds of probiotic supplements.  Do the finding of this article suggest that secretors and non-secretors should have different kinds of probiotic supplements?


I think the finding suggest that more studies need to be done to determine if secretors and non should have different probiotics.


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I think the finding suggest that more studies need to be done to determine if secretors and non should have different probiotics.


Yes, that's why I went downstairs to take my probiotic last night - it has bifida in it.  If I could remember to take it regularly, I could track how it actually affects me.  Going to try to remember.
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My probiotic should be here next Monday.  It has: L.ACIDOPHILUS, L.PLANTARUM, L.BULGARICUS, BIFIDOBACTERIUM BIFIDUM, and STREPTOCOCCUS THERMOPHILUS.

Maybe in the future, I should only use probiotic supplements indirectly, as starters for culturing other foods!
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Quoted from brinyskysail
I think the finding suggest that more studies need to be done to determine if secretors and non should have different probiotics.
I'm look forward to that.
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Polysaccaharides and or glycans provide an energy source for gut bacteria to flourish, without it there is reason for diminished quantity and quality.

This was shown in the fecal samples via qPCR and by the richness between secretors versus nons.So yes the diet for nonnies which obviously includes the good carbs should not be overlooked. The good carbs on the BTD or GTD are necessary for feeding your gut flora. Bad carbs like refined sugars and starches will more likely feed Candida species and promote their overgrowth in the gut.

By following your nonnie BTD or GTD diet and possibly supplementing with the right probiotics nonnies may be able to avert susceptibilities such as IBD, Crohns and candidiasis.

Listen to Lola feed your intestinal biome appropriately.


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