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Bibibabubi
Thursday, May 12, 2011, 9:37am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi all, I was quite stunned when I received my secretor results. Always though that I would be a secretor instead of a nonnie!

Anyway here are my questions, appreciate your answers!

1. Are nonnies "weaker" or "frail-er" than secretors? I get that impression when I read the difference between them.

2. What are the foods that are now allowed for O non secretors that were previously avoids for secretors? And food that are beneficial but are now avoids or neutrals? If you know the answer off the top of your head, let me know! There are a lot of food in the TypeBase and I don't want to look them up one by one.

I'm actually following the SWAMI Gatherer diet but so curious about this nonnie stuff.


"Hope is not a strategy. Luck is not a factor. Fear is not an option." - James Cameron
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Welcome to the nonniehood!! We are more sensitive - think: canary in the mine  
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Don't worry somethings you are better at then secretors.

Now that you know who you are you can eat the right foods how cool is that!


MIFHI

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Bibibabubi
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Ooh what are nonnies better than secretors at.

I feel like I've join a secret club or something.  


"Hope is not a strategy. Luck is not a factor. Fear is not an option." - James Cameron
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If you're doing "by the book" BTD, then I think the major "secretor avoids, nonnie neutrals" are coconut oil, lentils, and avocados. Also, a few foods flip from neutral to beneficial, or vice versa, but I never cared about that, since either way these were foods I could eat.

With SWAMI, all you have to do is enter your secretor information and it will calculate the rest.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  13yo B+ Jack


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you know about the 20/80%tage rule...so far now you know why nonnies make the world go round


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I just found out I am a non-secretor & have only been doing the Explorer diet for about a month.
Now that I know I am both explorer & non-secretor, I am really confused.
Should I go ahead & get the Swami Software?  
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O in Virginia
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The only thing about my non-secretor status that I'm aware of right now, is that it explains my dental problems, and also the fact that I can eat an avoid and often not have a response until later, sometimes much later, making it difficult to track what I ingested that gave me the reaction.  I'm not frail or particularly sensitive.  I like fragrances and perfumes.  I enjoy all kinds of foods - with no allergies that I'm aware of.  I am a bit sensitive to scratchy fabrics, hate that, refuse to wear a wool turtleneck but I think plenty of secretors probably feel the same.  Whether you are a secretor or non-secretor, it's just good to know because it gives you more information about how your body works and what you should eat or avoid to keep it healthy.  I'm still a little skeptical myself about the nonnie club stuff (see the "you know you are a nonnie" thread).  But I have an aversion to *special* clubs, always have for some reason.  Perhaps I just haven't embraced my nonnie-hood yet.    

Yes, I advise SWAMI.  It's individually tailored for you as an individual.  But if you do well on BTD with secretor status, there may be no reason to do SWAMI.  I'm glad I got mine because it makes eating & food shopping sooooo much easier for me.  I like things that are no-brainer.  
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Now that you know you are a nonnie, you may want to get swami.  As mentioned, it will make it a lot easier for you to know what you can eat and what you should avoid


There is a good in every bad  
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at the moment the secretors are 80 % who knows how long that will be for. in a million years gatherer nonies could rule the world closely supported by nonnie explorer of course lol


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I just found out I am a non-secretor & have only been doing the Explorer diet for about a month.
Now that I know I am both explorer & non-secretor, I am really confused.
Should I go ahead & get the Swami Software?  


I would.

My logic is that both explorers and nonsecretors have special health needs.

The GenoType diet is a great diet, but it only is 6 different diet plans and people with special needs probably don't exactly fit one of the 6 health plans.

In particular the explorer plans has to accomodate people from all 4 blood types and both secretors statuses.  Since it is serving all kinds of people, it may not exactly fit every explorer,

SWAMI will create a plan tailored to your needs specifically rather than explorers in general.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.

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Quoted from Bibibabubi
Hi all, I was quite stunned when I received my secretor results. Always though that I would be a secretor instead of a nonnie!

Anyway here are my questions, appreciate your answers!

1. Are nonnies "weaker" or "frail-er" than secretors? I get that impression when I read the difference between them.
In general, YES.  We are more susceptible to many diseases and conditions.

Quoted from Bibibabubi
Ooh what are nonnies better than secretors at.
I think cancer resistance is the big one...maybe the only one.
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Quoted from 14204
I just found out I am a non-secretor & have only been doing the Explorer diet for about a month.
Now that I know I am both explorer & non-secretor, I am really confused.
Should I go ahead & get the Swami Software?  


I would suspect (since you're an explorer and a non secretor) that you would discover the lists of foods swami would give you would be very different from the basic explorer diet.  It may not be, but most likely it would so...I would get swami.  The more specific your diet is for you, the better off you'll be.  Even following the explorer diet, you may be eating things you shouldn't, and you may be avoiding foods you should eat - especially since you're a nonnie.  It's up to you, but in my opinion, it would be worth it.


There is a good in every bad  
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Quoted from Bibibabubi
Hi all, I was quite stunned when I received my secretor results. Always though that I would be a secretor instead of a nonnie! -snip-

I'm actually following the SWAMI Gatherer diet but so curious about this nonnie stuff.
Did you re-do your SWAMI with non-secretor selected?  I wonder if you're an Explorer then?



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Did you re-do your SWAMI with non-secretor selected?  I wonder if you're an Explorer then?



actually selecting non secretor would probably increase the percentage of association with explorer


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In general, YES.  We are more susceptible to many diseases and conditions.


Not listening to this.     Fingers in ears...la la la la...la la la la...la la la la...
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One benefit for being a non-secretor is that it can be a strong motivator for adhering to a very high level of compliance on this way of eating.  It's been my observation that many secretors take more liberties with following the diet more loosely.  And most non-secretors know that we'd better not take that approach if we value our health.




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Let me not pass you by in quest
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Quoted from O in Virginia


Not listening to this.     Fingers in ears...la la la la...la la la la...la la la la...


Take your fingers out of your ears!  This may not be what you want to hear, but it's certainly good to know in terms of prevention.  What you don't know can hurt you.  Embrace your nonnie-ness  



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actually selecting non secretor would probably increase the percentage of association with explorer

Exactly.  I was referring to the initial post, in which the "OP" stated that she's a Gatherer.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Exactly.  I was referring to the initial post, in which the "OP" stated that she's a Gatherer.


Ohhhh, yea for dyslexia  I thought she was already following explorer and you were suggesting that she's a gatherer.



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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Quoted from Bibibabubi
Hi all, I was quite stunned when I received my secretor results. Always though that I would be a secretor instead of a nonnie!

Anyway here are my questions, appreciate your answers!

1. Are nonnies "weaker" or "frail-er" than secretors? I get that impression when I read the difference between them.

2. What are the foods that are now allowed for O non secretors that were previously avoids for secretors? And food that are beneficial but are now avoids or neutrals? If you know the answer off the top of your head, let me know! There are a lot of food in the TypeBase and I don't want to look them up one by one.

I'm actually following the SWAMI Gatherer diet but so curious about this nonnie stuff.


I guess you should update your swami, but I don't the food list will change but for sure your % will.
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the approach is individualized....
what is good for you, might not be as good for me, and vice versa.....
O non secretors can be gatherers, explorers and even hunters, so never generalize


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I was surprised too to find out my secretor status. I'm Lewis double negative, presumed non-secretor (the testing here in Australia ia a little bit of a process...but that is another story. Suffice to say I couldn't be bothered clarifying the small possibility that I am a weak secretor, and go with being a nonnie.)

Anyway, several things changed with the new status. I went from explorer to gatherer. Then I got Swami. The lists were somewhat different from the GTD lists.

The best thing is that I have lost weight easily and consistently, which I didn't on the BTD/GTD. And I certainly don't feel weak or frail, quite the opposite. But nonnies are special in many ways, and it is good to know that!  


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