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I believe this would be due to flushing too much of either potassium or sodium (electrolytes) out of the body. There needs to be a balance between potassium and sodium to control the water flow in and out of the cells. If you get low on potassium, the cells will dehydrate internally because there isn't adequate potassium to pull water into the cell from the bloodstream. If you get low sodium, the cells won't be able to push waste out into the bloodstream.  Grapefruit juice is the best remedy (for me) to restore electrolyte balance when I get into a drank too little, drank too much, cycle and not absorbing the water... I usually have the most problems of this type when the weather is changing rapidly from hot and dry to cool and moist; or when in a traveling induced weather change... 
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yup, best is half your body weight in ounces of water |
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I love drinking water especially at work (talking a lot to customers makes you thirsty) & I get through 3 litres in just water easily...& another litre for hot drinks in the evening... Lately I've been aware that if there is a big EQ & water is hard to get in quantity, I'm nervous as I don't want to be dependent on it...  Can't imagine how all those ppl in Japan are coping  Who knows, maybe I am drinking too much anyway & upsetting my potassium/sodium balance  |
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| Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:21am |
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In my second week of going a BIT easier on the water front, and eating less cereal (fibre) seems to be working well.
For the record and completeness. I eat lots of vegetables, soups, stews, a bit of fruit, and a pretty healthy diet, very few if any prepared meals, no tins, no dairy, I will admit to having a weakness for sweets, but this is much less now.
I no longer have a bloated stomach, i no longer have to pee all the time and i feel a little bit more positive.
so all i ask is that you think about the amount of water and cereal fibre that you eat.
someone said tha 80 oz of water shouldn't be a problem, well that's 10 glasses unless they are in a hot country of course. i now have about 1 glass of seltzer, 2 glass filtered water, +2 cups of tea a day. if i feel thirsty i have additional water, yesterday that was an extra glass. but I'm still drinking maybe 5 glasses less than i used to, maybe more. |
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Just started reading this thread - what's with the baking soda and where can I read about the fibre? Thanks. |
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| Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:42pm |
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With patients I start with a guideline of 1/2 ounce per pound of body weight and then adjust depending on their specific health concerns, how much coffee/tea/soda they drink, how much exercise they are doing, and what they are currently drinking.
I've found that people initially have an adjustment period when they increase water intake during which they have to urinate more often, or may feel the water goes right through them, but this usually regulates itself within a few weeks.
However, there are some patients who drink lots and yet don't seem to absorb it and sometimes still feel "dry" - this is a symptom as a clue to what is going on with them. There are also patients who are still running to the bathroom a lot or waking in the night to urinate - they are also symptoms! And again, these help direct me as to what is happening with that person. What is so cool about naturopathic medicine is that no matter what treatment you do, the way the body responds always gives you more clues as to what you should do next... |
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| Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 12:38am |
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note that PC doesn t have time to go to the gym or sweat on a daily basis  he s too busy investigating fodmaps |
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| Friday, March 18, 2011, 5:50pm |
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I enjoy adding sea salt into my drinking water......works like electrolytes, bringing water inside the cell check out hytrax http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP044
Even though a little sea salt is ok. I get too much salt in my diet. I'm working up to 2 litres a day. Never thought I could even drink 1 litre. I'm proud of myself!  |
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| Friday, March 18, 2011, 5:52pm |
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Woops, sorry sweetheart. Check out the "power plate." I don't own one, but you may find benefit.
What is all that stuff in your signature? Just an observation, not a judgement. |
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| Saturday, March 19, 2011, 5:27am |
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I love drinking water especially at work (talking a lot to customers makes you thirsty) & I get through 3 litres in just water easily...& another litre for hot drinks in the evening... Lately I've been aware that if there is a big EQ & water is hard to get in quantity, I'm nervous as I don't want to be dependent on it...  Can't imagine how all those ppl in Japan are coping  Who knows, maybe I am drinking too much anyway & upsetting my potassium/sodium balance 
I realised that I drink more water at one of my places of work, than the other...Makes sense as the one I get thirstier at, is the smaller one with really bright lights right above our heads, & many more years of essential oil residue in the ceiling & walls... Plus one of the women I work with uses a lot of those oils during the day on herself & sometimes to massage on customers  I got totally brainfogged on Friday after one massage session & needed to drink heaps to flush it out... |
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| Monday, March 28, 2011, 9:13pm |
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I drink way too much and more out of boredom and not wanting to eat
I am 115 and I drink like 4 o r5 liters a day..kind of ridiculous.maybe this is why I feel bloated. |
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| Monday, March 28, 2011, 11:03pm |
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Drinking that much you most likely could be flushing the good minerals out of your body...  Being bloated suggests the potassium sodium balance is out of whack for one...  |
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| Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:06am |
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I drink way too much and more out of boredom and not wanting to eat
I am 115 and I drink like 4 o r5 liters a day..kind of ridiculous.maybe this is why I feel bloated.
May God help your kidneys - how long have you been drinking that much - that is a gallon of water! |
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| Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 6:57pm |
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May God help your kidneys - how long have you been drinking that much - that is a gallon of water!
I know, yesterday and today was much better, and I actually feel thinner without so much water.. I am going to watch it-- geez, I never thought too much water was bad. Now, things make sense a little bit. |
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| Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 9:55pm |
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Don't dehydrate on me though  |
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| Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:37pm |
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No worries, just going to ease up a little bit, I am in the mountains, and everyone keeps harping on DRINK WATER--guess I overdid it;)
perfect, this leaves some room for good healthy nutritious foods! |
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| Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 11:14pm |
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A person weighting 70 Kg requires at least 1750 ml of water per day. Of this amount ca. 650 ml is obtained by drinking, ca 750 ml is the water contained in solid food and ca 350 ml is oxidation water. If more than that amount is consumed by a healthy person it is excreted by the kidneys, but in people with a heart and kidney disease it may be retained
(edema; pp 505, 777f)Human Physiology; Robert F. Schmidt, Gerhard Thess, 2nd edition |
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| Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 11:20pm |
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You will note that 1750 ml is equivalent to about 7 and a half glasses of water. This is where the initial round figure of eight glasses (1890 ml) came from.
so you only need to consume 2 or three glass of drinking water, if you eat properly. under normal circumstances
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| Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 11:41pm |
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| Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 10:52am |
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Lola - I have quoted a few references from two sources re my comment. It would be interesting for some reasoning behind the 2 litres of water that is recommended. Also of course the person is a type A, I'm a type O. Simply stating something doe not make it so. And I firmly beive 2 litres (for the average person) is too much.  I have also stated my own experience from seemingly drinking too much water and the bloating effect it caused, which has now gone. I also do not need to run to the toilet very much at all. Having said all the above i am not a water expert, so am open to other ideas, but preferable backed up with some reasoning. oxo |
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| Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 1:49pm |
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a 21 stone person or 294 pounds wouldn't really want to drink over 4 litres of water a day for very long. |
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| Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 4:34pm |
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I drink two, and still alive and kicking after 15 or more years!!! no more pains, like sciatica and other assortment goodies, since I incorporated water into my life!!! I used to be a camel!! no kidding!
of course I do practice more physical activity on a daily basis, and also add sea salt to my water
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| Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 7:30pm |
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A school friend of mine was saying that because he smoked 40 cigarettes a day drank whiskey like water but felt fine ate fried food, that this health malarkey was rubbish. that was about 6 years ago.
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