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jayneeo
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rather than hijack the thread about anxiety meds, I opened this one to explore anxiety and coffee.
I shouldn't really be drinking coffee...and I tend to go off and on it in a cycle....but I have been having so much anxiety lately...its an awful feeling....and I have been on a long roll of coffee in the morning....due for a quit, I know, but here's the thing:
sleep cycle gets messed up, I sleep poorly, then need the stuff just to bring the brain into the present....anyway....it just occurred to me ....duh, I'm drinking too much coffee. (which to me, is about one cup a day, maybe one and a half)
I'm going to take rhodiola now.......
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reason it being an avoid for us Os

glad I got over it .......it was messing all of my systems actually

26 years ago, when pregnant for the first time.......coffee was the last thing I wished for.......and all through lactation........should have listened to my body then


oh well! live and learn!


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As an A, coffee (italian esresso)more than a cup a day, make me nervous and jittery, not strong and focused, may be I could tolerate one cup, but I drink many cups of green tea and eat a bit of extrabitter chocolate, that is enough of excitants for me ! May be Os need really to avoid it as per Dr D.
I drink a decaf when in social events, as it is nearly beneficial for As.


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Lola,
You are so right.  I couldn't drink coffee, milk or orange juice when I was pregnant......all O avoids.
It took me a long time to learn to listen to my body.   Got sick a couple of weeks ago on a trip to Louisiana and I traced it back to a bridal shower I attended a few days before I left.  It was at a Chinese buffet and as hard as I tried to avoid stuff I shouldn't have eaten I'm sure there was some hidden corn starch or syrup or something in there.  I got a sinus infection and was miserable for a bout 10 days.....
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I used to suffer from anxiety and panic attacks and coffee or tea would always exacerbate/trigger symptoms. I gave it up long before encountering Blood type diet because I felt so awful on caffeine-shaky, anxious, very nauseous and headaches. I seem to be ok with a bar of dark chocolate though-I noice the 'pick up' effect but i doesnt make me feel ill. I need to have it before lunch though or it will affect my sleeping-or if I cant resist a craving Il take Coffea cruda 12X/30C homeopathic remedy to negate effects.

So i would say definitely try reducing or preferably eliminating your intake if you're an O with anxiety. I know quality coffee is utterly delicious-I love the smell too though so I can enjoy that anyway if other people are drinking!    
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its so hard with my DH making a great pot of Peet's every morning...........but no whining, I'm starting on morning thunder tomorrow morning, then wean onto yerba mate and green tea.
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my last meeting with café ended into a panic attac.... so what... ...
ok for a larger intake of mg... and then all is fine  


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its so hard with my DH making a great pot of Peet's every morning...........but no whining, I'm starting on morning thunder tomorrow morning, then wean onto yerba mate and green tea.

Jayneeo,
Wow this sounds like me too!.  I've been coffee free for 2 weeks tomorrow.  Like you i've been off and on, i can't count how many times i've done this.  I've recently realized that coffee seemed to be making my anxiety worse, plus i have high blood pressure.  This is the reason i decided to quit this time.  It's hard though when a significant other drinks it though.  Good thing is my bf has never been a heavy drinker of it, just when i made it he'd drink it.  The first week was hard because he kept asking why aren't you making coffee, i told him well i'm not drinking it anymore but he could make a pot for himself if he wanted.

It's getting harder though now since we just found out that his mom only has maybe a couple of weeks to live.  So i really want a cup of coffee and my anxiety is getting worse.  I think the coffee feeds the anxiety.  Another thing is i guess i thought i would notice a miraculous difference from being off coffee for two weeks but i haven't really noticed much of a change in anything, maybe i'm not giving it enough time.  I'm drinking black tea for now to negate some of the withdrawal symptoms, plus it is a superfood.  But i'll need to get off that eventually because i can't seem to have it without cream.  But one step at a time, i don't want to overwhelm myself especially given the current situation with my BF's mom.

BTW, What is morning thunder?.

Thanks!
Mickey


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Coffee is not my friend....I used to drink decaf when I followed the BTD for A until I realized the small amount of caffeine was causing anxiety....I entered caffeine sensitivity on my SWAMI and coffee became a toxin...  I don't even like the taste of coffee.  The reason I think the caffeine in green tea doesn't bother me is because of the theanine....which feels rather calming to my nervous system.  I can drink green tea at night and sleep well.  When I drank coffee when following the BTD, even if I had it first thing in the morning, I never slept well.  I'm not any better on dark chocolate.  My heart starts racing and I feel like my whole body is vibrating.  SWAMI made chocolate a black dot.





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I have no idea how you would respond to the loss of acffeine.. some get bad headaches ..

But IF you would like to try something else that works for me..

I bought plain Cocoa powder and I drink it in hot water in the morning .. sort of like coffee .. the taste is ko not great.. you could add sugar and milk as you normally do to make it less shocking..

drink it and if you are lucky you will never be gittery again.. at least not from coffee .. if that does not wrok and you get headaches then mix the cocoa half and half with cofffee or de-cafe.. anything to cut down slowely..

Right now I would like to say you are more then likley experincing hypoglycemia rather then anxiety.. anxiety does not forewarn.. more like comes on without warning at all..  

you are going through nerve wrecking info and might well be under great stress, so do what you can to alleviate 'so called' anxiety.. rest, eat, cook good foods, come here and type away,, and try to reduce the caffeine intake being aware of headaches for about a week after ...

but most important  KNOW that you WILL BE OK no matter what.. YOU will MAKE it through .. one minute at a time.. BUT YOU WILL ! YOU have done it before and will do it again!!! KEEP THAT thought.. write it on the fridg.. whatever.. good luck

ps/ cocoa took away all my cravings for all sorts of stuff and it is BENEFICIAL!      
  


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I am caffeine sensitive so SWAMI made coffee an avoid for me, but I hadn't thought about decaf - I guess I could drink that without it being an avoid since I am an A??  

I find even more than one cup of green tea seems to interfere with my sleep  
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well, I have been dealing with sleep problems as well as anxiety....gee could it be the caffeine?
Thanks, Goldie, Mickey, etc. as you all know it helps to talk. (or type)
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Jayneeo - my sleep problems all but vanished when I gave up coffee and limited my green tea intake.
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thanks Ladyhawke! I need to try that!
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Dear Jayneeo!  I do feel for you with the coffee struggles.  I developed a coffee addiction in my early teens and it did involve quitting it many times before it finally 'took'.  I think what finally did it was being close to someone who had problems with drug addiction and I saw how the drug created the very problems that the use of the drug "seemed to" temporarily alleviate.  I really saw the comparison between what he was going through and my coffee habit; and how the justification would take him round and round, while he avoided seeing how the drug was keeping him locked into a state of imbalance and misery;  also powerlessness.  

Stopping it is no fun, for a while, anyway.  Do whatever you have to do to break that habit, even if it is overloading on green tea, white tea, mate, black tea.  Sip Mate or green tea as much as you want for a little while to ease the caffeine withdrawals.  And be willing to become attached to mate and green tea.  Goldie's suggestion of cocoa in hot water is worth looking into, also -- a diamond for gatherers, anyway.  

Hang in there and we are on your team!    



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Thanks so much Victoria! Tomorrow: morning thunder! (black tea and yerba mate by celestial seasonings)
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Thanks so much Victoria! Tomorrow: morning thunder! (black tea and yerba mate by celestial seasonings)


    

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Blackstrap molasses with some carob, a spit of agave - works good for me.  Just can't order it at the cafe's on the strip.  
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I actually had a coffee today (and a strong one at that!) - all that talk about it made me crave one again, so it will be interesting to see how I sleep tonight...
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well, I have been dealing with sleep problems as well as anxiety....gee could it be the caffeine?


I would say yes! I never cared for coffee but drank it occasionally to be social and regretted it every time! Heart racing, jittery, feeling of jumping out of my skin. It felt like a drug.

Something I'll always remember concerning coffee and sleep. A few years ago we visited Italy and stayed in a Villa. The host offered us a cup of cappuccino upon arrival. How could I refuse this quintessential Italian drink in the country of its origin? Well, I was up for nearly three days! Dragging my way through the beautiful landscapes of the area on practically no sleep! I think I am done forever with coffee.


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I'm not that sure anymore if really cafeine is the culprit.. I thinke merely how café is treated...roasted etc ---- a sort of age while roasting  
it's amazing I drunk tons of café until 2006... in fall I got soo sick that I never touched a cup of café again.....


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Well here I am wide awake after midnight and I haven't done that for months!! Obviously I shouldn't drink coffee if I want to sleep  
Although it may have something to do with the fact that DH is coughing like mad and I have retreated to the couch in the lounge to escape, plus our 2 "air travel traumatised" cats are still adjusting to their new home and are not happy about being locked inside at night to avoid being eaten by a python like the poor Siamese down the road  
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I have been a coffee-holic for years.  Ground my beans fresh every morning.  LOVE Espresso without any sweetener, too!  I have had my coffee black, no sweetener for over 30 years.  Giving up my morning coffee was definitely the biggest challenge for me on the BTD.  I have to have my green tea every morning, just like I had my coffee - without any milk or sweeteners.  I like it but I still miss my daily shot of java!    I also did not go through the withdrawals because of the caffeine in the green tea.  If I could choose one thing that is an AVOID added back as a Beneficial, it would be the coffee!  Wheat, dairy, corn . . . I can live without them.

However, for someone dealing with anxiety, I wonder if caffeine in any form might trigger the anxiety


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I find I can't have green tea on an empty stomach, so I typically have it with breakfast.

I like my yerba mate with cocoa powder added. I used to brew 2 teaspoons of mate for a big mug of tea, but now I use 1 teaspoon, and add 1 teaspoon of cocoa powder and a generous sprinkle of cinnamon, and stir well before adding the rice milk. I've added blackstrap molasses to this in the past,  but recently I've found it's almost as tasty without it, and this way I save my sweetener serving for later in the day (or I can skip it some days.)


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I find I can't have green tea on an empty stomach, so I typically have it with breakfast.

I like my yerba mate with cocoa powder added. I used to brew 2 teaspoons of mate for a big mug of tea, but now I use 1 teaspoon, and add 1 teaspoon of cocoa powder and a generous sprinkle of cinnamon, and stir well before adding the rice milk. I've added blackstrap molasses to this in the past,  but recently I've found it's almost as tasty without it, and this way I save my sweetener serving for later in the day (or I can skip it some days.)


Ruthiegirl, do you make your own rice milk or buy it?  I have been having a difficult time finding a rice milk without all the oil and cane sugar.  If you buy it, might I ask what brand you buy?  Lola recommended I make it but I make so many other things and I work, so I only have so much time . . .


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