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Lizzie
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Hi all,

Did any of you revert back to the secr/non-secr. BTD after doing swami for a while?

I was just going through my LR4YT book and noticed differences in quantities of grains and vegetables allowed (better on BTD)


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I do swami foods but it seems that the ones that work best are BT foods. I don't follow frequencies of swami at all, I can't and I was soooo excited for new foods, but most don't work so well. All the tidbits for O's ,mild ketosis, careful w/nuts and seeds, don't need grains, beans though some are beneficial only eat occasionally as a side dish, those hold true for me. when I see diamonds in swami and says to eat often, it doesn't work so well. I'd say i look at swami all the time but BT works better.


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Apart from doing better on BT, did it influence your weight?


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yes and no. i think BT was better for my weight. All the foods i use on swami are the allowed for BT although some values went from N on BT to SF or diamond on swami so I eat more of those. There are alot of swami foods and portions that simply don't work for me. I avoid all avoids on swami as well as blood type and eat the foods that are BT compliant as well as swami SF or diamond (again, alot of those were N in BT) so in a way, I am combining both diets but that is what works for me. If I had to choose, I guess I'd choose BT but I also know that some BT foods are BETTER for me in my swami. I try to keep my diet simple most of the time as that works best as well. A little meat and veg many times throughout the day. Occasionally add small amounts of other things. If I try to get tricky, it messes with me.


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That's great to hear. I too run into problems when I eat too many different foods at the one sitting.
I'll type out all the avoid foods on all the different plans and see where that gets me. Thanks!  


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Oops - just been told by Lola not to mix the diets - to stick to one system only. There goes that plan!


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SWAMI is supposed to be really personalized, and work better for you than either BTD or GTD. If SWAMI isn't working for you, I have to wonder if you didn't input all of your information correctly.

I did very well on BTD. I then switched to GTD and did horribly. On SWAMI, I'm doing better than I did on either BTD or GTD, because it's a hybrid of the two (and contains many more BTD values than GTD values.) Others find that SWAMI gives them more GTD foods and  fewer BTD foods.


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well actually, I don't necessarily Mix them. I don't eat avoids on either plan and all the foods I do eat are either neutral or SF or diamonds depending on the plan. so in a sence I do both or either. And after thinking about it, i do like swami better because it gives me better values for the foods I do eat and more values for alot more foods. It's just a bunch of those foods don't like me. so to recap: the foods I avoid are avoids on both and the foods I do eat are compliant to both as well. I feel secure with that.


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Genoharmonics  is something you get with SWAMI that you do not get with any other of the other diets.



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Right. I have a history of uteran fibroids and precancerous moles on my skin. i have run swami with and without those as well as digestive issues and looked at the differences. I do eat alot more of the foods with those conditions included. I know certain lectins can attach to those cells and help remove them. That is one beautiful thing about swami. i guess by combing i just meant i don't eat avoids on either and all are beneficial. white mushrooms are the only thing that went from avoid to diamond and I do eat them. all other foods that I eat basically just got a higher rating and I eat more of them. hope I.m not confusing anyone


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Maybe I should put more trust in Swami ...


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If maximizing your health is an issue, SWAMI is more targeted.


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And it may be that you are "healing" on your SWAMI, which can manifest itself is not so pleasant bodily reactions. Give it at least 30 days, if not the full 6 months of avoiding all black dots and avoids. Then see if you don't feel better.


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I am pleased with my Swami.. quick becoming my best friend.. holding hands always there listeling.. and giving good advice..

my food at first did not change much, but little by little some portions changed and supps well I am on a long road of doing every protocol for two month each..

patience is my motto.. I need to tell my self.. and you to.. and avoids.. not for me .. unless one can not avoid them come hell or high water.. black dots I think the same.. I mean why rock the boat??

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I have no health issues at the moment but I can do with losing about 14 pounds and am now wondering whether swami is going to do that for me. I've been avoiding the avoids and black dots (apart from potato, baked beans and mayo at the weekend) and I'm still gaining weight. Do I need to lose the weight some other way and then go back to swami to stay healthy?


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As a non secretor SWAMI would best.

A's need a load of veggies...


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I love veggies and could eat them all day. Fruit: probably eating too much of it. I love fruit.
Maybe I'll just have to bite the bullet with the grains even though they are a diamond. I just thought that avoiding the avoids would be enough to do the job


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If weight loss is your goal, you need to really pay close attention to portion size and frequency recomendations. You're not going to lose weight if you're eating too much food, even if it's the right food. For overall health, just sticking to the food list is probably enough, but for weight loss, portions matter.

Exercise recomendations are equally important for weight loss.


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swami will do that for you and more, but no one is going to take the avoids you are still eating away from you, but yourself

so help swami do its job


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OK, I have a question for anyone familiar with these diets.
I was so excited to finally get my swami...and it has me as an explorer.
Where do I find the percentage? Where do I find the reasoning for making me an explorer?( There was a sentence in the beginning eluding to this.)
I have been doing so well on the teacher diet with one exception (sinus).
I lost weight without trying, the exercise fits me perfectly, the foods are easily digested and I enjoy them.
Is there an easy way to go right to your swami? After I log in , I can't find a way to actually get to my food list, etc.
Thanks for any help.


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Quoted from cajun
OK, I have a question for anyone familiar with these diets.
I was so excited to finally get my swami...and it has me as an explorer.
Where do I find the percentage?


The percentage is located on page 4 or 5 of the diet report.

You must do two things to get a percentage:

Specify "Determine GenoType For Me" if you want a percentage calculated.

GenoType:

Also answer "No" to the question: "Print Abbreviated Diet Report"

Print Abbreviated Diet Report:


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I have been doing so well on the teacher diet with one exception (sinus).
I lost weight without trying, the exercise fits me perfectly, the foods are easily digested and I enjoy them.


If you study your SWAMI list, you will probably discover that it is not the same as the Explorer diet in the book.

It likely includes many of the teacher foods that your were doing well on.



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Is there an easy way to go right to your swami? After I log in , I can't find a way to actually get to my food list, etc.
Thanks for any help.


After you login:

1)Click on the "Edit your profile" tab.

2)Scroll to the bottom of page and select the "Save and prepare to Print Diet Report" radio button.

3)Click on "Save  SWAMI Xpress Profile and Continue " button below the radio button

4) Then click on "Print Diet Report"

And you should be viewing you diet report.

Some people choose to save this web page or generate a pdf file to avoid having to do the four steps above to access the diet report.


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Quoted from Lizzie
Maybe I should put more trust in Swami ...


There's a quiz somewhere on here that tells you what diet is best suited for you. I just don't know where to point you. When I took it, mine came up BTD was best for me.

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it is your best fit!


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Quoted from Lizzie
I have no health issues at the moment but I can do with losing about 14 pounds and am now wondering whether swami is going to do that for me. I've been avoiding the avoids and black dots (apart from potato, baked beans and mayo at the weekend) and I'm still gaining weight. Do I need to lose the weight some other way and then go back to swami to stay healthy?


This could be why u are not losing weight. Avoid these for @ least 2 weeks & see what happens.
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BTD and GTD are much more personalized than any other "diet book" out there, but nothing is as personalized as SWAMI. Forget the quiz- once you have a SWAMI, it blends the best of GTD and BTD for the perfect "you diet."

If you're not doing well on your SWAMI diet, then it's due to one of three things;

1) You're not actually following SWAMI carefully. A few "avoid" meals every month can inhibit weight loss or healing from a chronic problem. Ignoring portion size and frequency recomendations and/or exercise recomendations will inhibit weight loss.

2) You didn't put accurate information into SWAMI. It won't compute the right diet if it's not "fed" correct information. Recheck the measurements you inputted into SWAMI to make sure they're accurate. Double-check that you didn't tick the wrong boxes anywhere.

3) You have additional health/nutrition concerns that go beyond SWAMI. Food allergies, fructose intolerance, and celiac disease are all examples of conditions that require avoiding a whole class of foods (your specific allergens, high-fructose foods, or gluten-containing grains) even if some of those foods are rated neutral or better for you on SWAMI. Continue to  follow your SWAMI, but exclude those foods that are problematic for you and substitute different foods from the same category (such as quinoa instead of rye for the Celiac.)


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Thank you so much C-Sharp! I got it!
Thanks, Lola and Artspooner.
...I took it and it said Blood type diet was best for me!?! I need to sit and compare the type A diet and my swami because I have been on the teacher diet for so long. I know swami knows best but I think I need to re run it and uncheck the chemical sensitivities.


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SWAMI will be more personalized than either the BTD or Genotype book diet.  IMO, SWAMI will always be a better fit.


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I agree, Joe.
If I lived closer to Dr. D's clinic I would save the funds to have a professional SWAMI done.
I really need to take the time and do some more reading and then rerun my Swami.


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I have tried the BTD, GTD and paid for 2 swami's. The BTD has been the best for me. Could it be possible that new discoveries are not in the swami or that some of us are just different? I have the backwards radial fingerprint on my pinky finger, not the index finger as stated. All of my explorer friends have them on their index finger. That is just one example.


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I have and like my swami however I definately gravitate to BT foods as my staples. I wouldn't give my swami up because it has many more food values. However, some of the new swami foods, eaten too often or in the portion recommendations do pose digestive problems for me. When I first got it I was excited for all the new foods but after incorporating them I started having a few issues. I like knowing the values of the new foods but again, i still gravitate to BT staples. Not sure if that helps. Recap: better with BT but like to know more food values and do use them. Alot of the BT values that were nuetral that I ate now are sf or diamond on swmai. I like that as well


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two swamies?

you mean one you had run in TN, not express?
and an express you bought?

the express will show any updates done to the program, whenever those become available......a meal planner is on the making, so stay tuned


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Lola, I took that quiz and it came up nearly completely to follow the genotype diet. Now, I was Teacher on genotype and explorer on swami. What do I follow now then from genotype book: teacher or explorer??



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If you've done the SWAMI, Lizzie, you follow the food list for your SWAMI, not the Genotype book.



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swami has labeled you explorer, and you follow YOUR personalized explorer diet, NOT the explorer diet in the book, which is a basic one size fit all explorers, if you get my meaning


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Lola, I paid extra money for the swami in Tennessee. It arrived a few weeks later in a nice folder. The 2nd swami was an express. So yes, I paid for two swami's. The "one shoe fits all explorer" made me incredibly ill and the explorer supplements make me nauseous. Forgot which specific ones. It's been a while. I'm not complaining though. The BTD has turned my life around and I am grateful everyday that I found it.


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