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maukik
Friday, February 25, 2011, 2:46pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Simple, yes!, the way you put it, Lola.  Thanks!
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Jenny
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It's helpful to draw up a personal grid with the two parents along the horizontal and vertical axes.
The four boxes will show the four possible outcomes. eg

              A      o (me)
    (him)
     B      AB      Bo

      o      Ao      oo

In my family I got two ABs and one Ao in my three children. It is a bit of a lottery. One chance in four every time.
You may well ask how did I know that I was Ao rather than AA? The reason for that logic is that my father was tested at the blood bank as o. Therefore I had to receive o from him.I was tested as an A, therefore my mother was an A.
How did I know that he(father of my children) was a Bo, not a BB?(also tested, and found to be B)
Because one of my children is an A,(bottom left grid), therefore he had to receive a recessive o.



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Sheldon
Saturday, March 5, 2011, 7:16am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hey everyone, just thought i would update you all on my blood results that i got back. all the ones i had requested were done, so that was good. nothing really out of the ordinary, im A+, Le (a-b+)secretor, MM, Fy (a+b+) (although for some reason it said that these were my 'probable' genotypes, so not sure why that was said). the only odd thing was that it said that im A1, even though my mother is A2 and my father is A2B? i've seen their cards with it on them, although they've had the cards since they gave blood nearly 30 years ago. i can't seem to find any info on this (if its possible for two parents with A2 to have an A1 child.etc), so any input would be great!  


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Lola
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or some reason it said that these were my 'probable' genotypes


read the part in the book where Dr D explains the reason why he named his 6 Genotypes
http://www.yourhealthkick.com/?p=1767
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcMjvruuUxM&feature=related


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Sheldon
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Thanks Lola! however after reading up on the A subgroups, to be honest I still don't understand it completely. Lola, what is your interpretation of it, especially the first link of Dr D? Do u think I could be A1 with an A2 and an A2B parent? And how does that work? Thanks!


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Lola
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I believe subtypes are recessive as well, so depending on the genes you were dealt, you are what you are

why worry about your parents being 2
work on the 1 as best you can
much like secretor status......I d be no where if I worried about my parent s
secretor status, no?

I work on my LDN status, and forget the rest


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Sheldon
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That's what I thought (about it being recessive) that's why I couldn't see how it was possible. If my mother is A2 then wouldn't that mean she's either A2A2 or A2O? (because if she was A2A1, then wouldn't she just be an A1, dominant over the recessive A2?) so in theory, I got an A2 from my father (he's A2B) and either an A2, or an O from my mother, making me either A2A2 or A2O? I guess I'm just curious if my test was done accurately, seeing as it's a bit more unknown and probably not tested often here in australia. But I guess I'll just have to trust in it for now


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Lola
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chances are you got your mum s recessive o gene and your dad s A

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The question may arise “how do you know if you are AO or AA?” Mendelian genetics can be applied in certain cases to give an answer: if one parent is O the child typed blood group A1 must be A1O, (who may be more prone to bacterial overgrowth than AA). Similarly if two parents of blood group A have a child who is typed as blood group O, both parents must be AO.

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2006/04/18/uk-ifhi-symposium-report-part-ii?blog=14


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Sheldon
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But my dad is A2B, so I must have got the A2 from him, so that would make me either A2O (O from mum) or A2A2 (A2 from mum), with both cases resulting in me being A2   And the last link u put up pretty much says that. Very strange indeed!  


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Lola
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how can you know if your parents were correctly tested for their subgroups?
get all of you retested to soothe your spirit, no?


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Sheldon where did you end up getting your A1 v. A2 tested exactly? At the time I also had a bit of a problem with it, but in the end accepted the blood bank's analysis over the path lab.In those days the blood bank was marking A1 A2 on the donor cards, but later on they stopped doing that.



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Sheldon's A1/A2 question comes from not having enough information.


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Does A1/A2 subtype affect blood transfusions?  If not, why would the blood bank test for it at all? If so, then why don't ALL blood banks test for it and put it on the donor cards?


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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