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weroflu
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The cold weather is here again, and i'm back into the blood type diet.

I have found out the main reason that i always stray from the diet, and i think ayurveda has the answer.

i am predominantly a pitta body type also with vata tendencies.

the blood type diet for O's leans very heavily toward aggravating pitta imbalances, and like clockwork as soon as i get imbalanced in this area i am off the blood type diet as fast as i can. in the cold weather it works great for me as meat and some of the spices keep me warmed up.

my gut loves the blood type diet, but the rest of me is not sold.

how to keep from pitta overload on the btd?


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what is a pitta body type with vata tendencies? I'm unfamiliar with this.
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What is Pitta?

Pitta is made up of the two elements fire and water.

The most revered ayurvedic text, the Charaka Samhita, defines the characteristics of Pitta dosha: hot and a little unctuous (sahasnehamushnam); sharp, burning (tikshnam); liquid and acidic (dravamlam); always flowing in an unbounded manner (saram); pungent and sharp (katuhu). Pitta contains fire, but it also contains water. It is the source of the flame, but not the flame itself. Compare Pitta to gasoline--it is not hot to the touch, but it can be the source of flames....


What is Vata?

Vata is made up of the two elements space and air.

The most revered ayurvedic text, the Charaka Samhita, defines the characteristics of Vata dosha: dry and rough (rookshaha); cool (sheetoha); light--lacking weight (laghuhu); very tiny, penetrating molecules (sookhshmaha); always moving (chalota); broad, unlimited, unbounded--akash means unbounded space (vishadaha); and rough (kharaha).



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how to keep from pitta overload on the btd?

I think the key is to change your diet to less heating foods during the warmer time of year...  Many of us adjust our diet depending on the environmental temperature because our bodies need different amounts of food to make the warmth...  Both types of food and different spices can help significantly in whether we generate a little or a lot of heat, etc...


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You can stick to the BTD and still have cooling foods in the summertime. When it's hot out, I eat more salads and fewer cooked veggies, and I tend to go lighter on the "warming" spices. If meat feels too "warming" for you, then go for more fish and poultry, smaller portions of meat when you do eat it, and add in a few servings of vegetable protien (beans or peas) per week- but stick to foods that are neutral or beneficial for O's.


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Greetings weroflu.

Bearing in mind that Ayurveda recommends adjusting one's diet to season (whatever one's dominant dosha(s)), Go through your Ayurveda foods/category lists for both Pitta and Vata, and check off the foods that are O-friendly, crossing out (in pencil!) the ones that are O-avoids. This'll customize the Pitta and the Vata dietary recommendations for you. It'll help to see it before you, and solutions/recipes will suggest themselves.


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The cold weather is here again, and i'm back into the blood type diet.

I have found out the main reason that i always stray from the diet, and i think ayurveda has the answer.

i am predominantly a pitta body type also with vata tendencies.

the blood type diet for O's leans very heavily toward aggravating pitta imbalances, and like clockwork as soon as i get imbalanced in this area i am off the blood type diet as fast as i can. in the cold weather it works great for me as meat and some of the spices keep me warmed up.

my gut loves the blood type diet, but the rest of me is not sold.

how to keep from pitta overload on the btd?




As an O, you must eat your fair share of meat. NOT all meat is pitta-aggravating:
Try:
Buffalo
Venison
Rabbit
Chicken and Turkey (white meat)
Freshwater fish (in moderation)

These are all pitta-friendly!  

You can be sold on the bloodtype diet, because blending it with Ayurveda is easier than you think. I've done it myself. I think the BTD/Ayurveda combo is better than Ayurveda alone. You'll think so too, I have a feeling.

Which Ayurveda author/teacher are you using? Let's see if we can help you.



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pitta..pitta..explorer likely...... heat..heat..heat..


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Many Os are pitta, actually. Hunters with all their inflammation. Even Gatherers usually have to watch their pitta...if they do that sort of thing, of course.


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i think i posted that i am predominantly vata, but then also mixed with pitta.

it has been really hard just identifying my prakriti -- even with professional help. one vaidya said pitta, one said pitta/kapha and one has said vata/pitta. i am inclined to think that the most recent vata/pitta is the most accurate as i've realized fat/salt has done the most to bring me in balance. and looking back it was always animal fat i was after when eating meat and not so much the protein. i gained a lot of weight after being on the btd for many years ( though at first it worked great), and had a vata body type until i got out of balance.

i find that although the white meats do tend to be much less pitta aggravating, they still aggravate it. i have tried buffalo and it aggravates pitta just as much as beef for me. all animal protein does this to me. i  crave the animal proteins at times and it does help me feel better on one level, but on another level it does not work.

i have also run into different types of ayurvedic practitioners-- some strictly enforce vegetarianism no matter the dosha and others not.

i don't really want to cross-reference the two different systems. i feel that one of them is the more relevant, and time will tell me which one that is. it isn't looking good for the btd because the older i get the more that ayurveda seems to be the one for me, but there are elements of the btd that are just too on the mark for me to discount.



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oops, edit..

i should have said in original post primarily vata.

carry on...
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I cannot decide which I am either ... no surprises there since I seem to be an oddball ... it took me a few GTs and time to uncover the explorer in me ... even with SwamiX


Again, it's the Questionnaire problem. You don't "get" the questions, simple as they are, till you're practicing the diet.

If you start with a hypothesis of your prakrti, or at least which dosha you're addressing, then, in a matter of days, you'll know where you need to go and where you feel right.

In the confusing period after Peter published The Genotype Diet, when I didn't know which diet (BTD or GTD) to follow, I used Ayurveda as a matrix against which to juggle both pantries, and it really helped me to define which B-permitted and Nomad-permitted foods were best for me in particular. Plus I learned how to cook my favorite cuisine: Indian!

The best way to start an ayurvedic or ayurvedic-combo diet is to start. The classification will clarify later.



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Do you have any good link or book to determine your pakriti?
It's quite interesting to see Vata looks like BTD A, Pita - O, Kapha - B
I think Dr. D'Adamo has noticed this coincidences in a article.
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Do you have any good link or book to determine your pakriti?
It's quite interesting to see Vata looks like BTD A, Pita - O, Kapha - B
I think Dr. D'Adamo has noticed this coincidences in a article.


Tom Greenfield, I think, had a blog on it on this site. You can do a search.

There's an excellent book on Prakrti, by Robert E. Svoboda. It's called, of all things, Prakriti: Your Ayurvedic Constitution.

If there's a health issue you're dealing with, dive into an Ayurvedic program for dealing with that first. What'll likely happen is: Your underlying constitution will make itself known in a matter of days. At that point, if you have to "blend" doshas to define yourself, that's normal; most prakrtis are a blend.



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I think explorers are extreme pitta...me and the ones i know who fit the explorer mold seem very pitta.  I have a lot of energy, need just 7 or so hrs of sleep to feel charged for like 14, and rarely have any sleep problems.  Have thick hair with some silver in it, which is pitta.  My eyes redden easy, which is pitta.  Pitta is also a mesomorphic build, which i am.  The ancient indians were on to something...

I think we all have a bit of each, but have two predomintate ones.  I think i am pitta and kapha.  Though pitta, i am pretty chillin most of the time.  My gatherer fiance says i probably appear too relaxed on interviews, which could make me seem lazy or unmotivated.  But i am in fact highly focused and driven when i feel passionate about something.  I am renowned among people who know me for having a flaring temper at times, but usually very relaxed and agreeable.  It is when i eat too much of the wrong thing i become more easily agitated and flare.

The pitta is recommended sweet and bitter foods.   Salty and hot foods are not recommended for pitta.  Pitta should drink cold or cool drinks.  Hot drinks can agitate the pitta if drank too much.  Pitta are actually recommended to refrain from eating too much meat.  Not sure about that, but i def. like sweet foods.  Bitter foods in chinese medicine help the liver, which is easliy compromised in explorers.
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I am predominately pitta with very little vata and kapha.


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<<It's quite interesting to see Vata looks like BTD A, Pita - O, Kapha - B>>

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of the three doshas vata is the one recommended to eat animal products to remain grounded. red meat is worst for pitta and kapha. some people consider buffalo cooling, not sure about this. there are a lot of disagreements between vaidyas on what constitutes proper diet, so it is very hard to map correlations from multiple viewpoints.

an idea i had about ayurveda was this... when it was being formulated some thousands of years ago, were they exposed to different genepools or were they only dealing with people of indian descent? i doubt that there was as much interbreeding between cultures then as now.

many of the type o beneficials are very heating which would preclude them being good for pitta... garlic, onion, cayenne etc.

i really don't see much of a correlation at all with the blood type diet and ayurvedic diets. looks like it's one or the other.

i've been delving into it a bit more, and doing ok on boiled milk and sourdough bread. sourdough bread = sustained energy all day. red meat = tight muscles and energy crash. unboiled milk gives me diarrhea, boiled is well digested. the worst part of the blood type diet for me is getting that cortisol response from cooked meat. i still like meat, but my body only really needs like 1-2 ounces a day if that. sat down to a really good rib eye the other day, tasted pretty good, but i felt terrible after.

further confounding is a  quote? by doug graham that always sticks out in my head, something like 'all animals eat a species specific diet'

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one more thing i wanted to add regarding the concept of ojas. i am not a yogi or anything and not sure about this, but i am reasonably sure. when i started experimenting with ayurveda the most benefit i had was in experiencing this, as i had been a meat eater my entire life. it really was akin to a blissful experience and it is for me totally unobtainable when eating meats. also, as a performing artist, i took a few leaps forward during performance when fasting or abstaining from meat.
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As far as I remember, yes, type O eats meat, but no, not a vast amount of it. 1 -2 ounces does not seem unreasonable. have you considered swamix? Swamix gave me far more interesting and varied foods than just BTD or just GTD.
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I would not be so sure about that, invaders came from far and wide. Often the method of dominating included the integration of the conqueror, either through force (rape) or through intermarriage.


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I think vata sounds hunter like to me.
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Weroflu - i think some top athletes limit their red meat intake.  I know for sure Alonzo Mourning did during the season.  I'm sure a few tennis players do it.

Not sure what his blood type is.  It would be interesting to note the diet MJ used - if any - during the season and for his training. Michael Jordan is one of the examples of the hunter Dr. D uses in his book.
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