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DoS
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Sooo....

I try to drink lots of fluids. I drink lots of tea (green/herbal) but... I can not retain water and use to have edema for sure. If I do not drink water and pee then I feel bad too. It is always clear unless I stop drinking. It smells yeasty a lot too (or burnt cheerios if you will).  

I have been worried about diabetes and have been eating recommendations by  diabetes book which basically means a lot of carbohydrates (it says a ton for secreter A types). However I am getting tied of peeing so much! If I do not pee when I eat lots of carbohydrates I feel like hell.

I am never thirsty for water, I just want regular BM's so I will feel normal mentally from good gut flora. From what I know if you are dealing with diabetic issues you crave water? Pee is usually concentrated?

Whenever I go a lot then my legs start to have better circulation and it feels weird sometimes like palpations. My circulation in my legs has been bad though for years.

Products with whey often make me feel normal to some degree.
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Oh yeah whenever I have blood work they have always said blood glucose levels are normal.
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I know that when I get really toxic, don't have adequate fats in the diet, or I don't get adequate rest, my BM backs up...  

Do you know what caused the poor circulation in your legs?

Sounds like you need to continue to heal the gut...  Are you eating ghee and taking Polyflora, Intrinsa, and Deflect?  I recently started taking the new Genoma Security and it messed me up the first week, but then I started eating cilantro and the body started settling down and now I am feeling much better...


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People who are undiagnosed diabetics crave lots of water. They cannot ever get their thirst quenched until they get their sugar under control. And yes they will urinate lots of copious dilute urine not concentrated. They do this because their kidneys are working overtime to dilute their blood from such high sugar levels and in turn to eliminate it from the body.


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I have never been thirsty.. I don't drink and have to really push me to do it.. I had to pee every 14 minutes all my life..

if your Blood sugars are tested ok then I think there is something else going on..

you have said for a long time that you are feeling rather poorly.. can you point me to a previous post where you outlined all your issues..    I think eventually you might need to consider that some other things are at work.. you are way to young to feel so poorly.. then again what IS IMPORTANT is the way you feel today as compared to even 6 month ago.. you ought to see tremendous improvements and comparing then side by side to how you used to feel might point in some direction not thought about before..

sorry I am no help here, but I do wish you all the best..


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if your Blood sugars are tested ok then I think there is something else going on..  


I'm not so sure about this.  A "grab" sample for blood sugar only tells you what is going on right at that time.  If your doctor will get a Hemoglobin A1C, that will tell you what your blood sugar has done over the last 3 months.

My dr always checks the A1C for a true picture of my blood glucose.  I'm not a doctor but I am a diabetic.
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May uric acid, any pain in your big toe/toes
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if you want BM, eat more fruit, if you think you have a sugar issue, eat low fodmap fruit.

sounds like you have fructose malabsorption to me.

so wheat, fruit, certain vegs and lactose will cause grief.


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Amaranth and *broccoli* are very helpful for this A to keep regular.

A's are prone to poor digestion when stressed.  

Do you take part in daily exercise of some sort?  Gotta move to have regular movements!
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Quoted from labrat

If your doctor will get a Hemoglobin A1C, that will tell you what your blood sugar has done over the last 3 months.


Excellent!  

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I am not sure what causes the poor circulation. I know I need exercise in order for it to be decent. If I sit around and do not eat it seems to improve. When I was healthy last spring (zero stress, lived with my dad, ate perfect, sat on my butt) the circulation improved some and got better as soon as I got back on my bicycle but then the lamb stopped that and stopped my perfect digestion at the time. It is possible intestinal distress causes a lot of the issues with inflammation of my legs but I have no idea.

I gave away my oats. Maybe ANY gluten affects me and not just wheat.

Thirsty? I am almost never thirsty, ever; not even when I should be.

My big toes go numb sometimes...

I ride my bike everywhere or walk. I have a yoga class I go to sometimes.

I eat ghee and take some capyrlic acid supplements.

My face is always red and it looks awful.
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I can not retain water and use to have edema for sure. If I do not drink water and pee then I feel bad too. It is always clear unless I stop drinking. It smells yeasty a lot too (or burnt cheerios if you will).
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Oh yeah whenever I have blood work they have always said blood glucose levels are normal.
Do they check your renal profile?






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Sounds like you need to start keeping a food journal and also log your feeling/health for each day at the end of each. I found this to be personally very helpful. I didn't realize how little fresh veg I was eating. As I have increased my vegetables (all bennies) a hundred fold I have had the most amazingly healthy bowel movements better than I ever remember having in my entire life.

I've cut out gluten, that was the last thing to go. I do okay on oats. Sometimes it's more what you need to eat more of instead of what you need to eliminate. That's what I've really been noticing recently. Though I still do highly recommend never eating red meat! lol I've learned my lesson after years of doing that.

The first 6 months of start my BTD I had quite a few neurological problems. My left hip was numb to touch. The back of both hands if touched or knocked against anything would send shooting pains. I just figured that my body was healing. With a lot of issues and pain I've had since I've been on the BTD/GTD it mostly stems from what I realized after was healing pain.

Oh how is your weight?


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I come back to asking for a list of issues before, weight and lifestyle and COMPARE to NOW..

numb tows is neuropathy, and possible from diabetes,
water retention and edema is more a kidney issue.. but you are so young,
drinking great amounts of water can wash out much needed minerals.  are you eating green beans? using sea salt? to replace the minerals.
one or two foods can cause issues, even if they are only in some store bought products.
for stress go where others talk about stressors.. like in AA type places .. they are free..and the wisdom reaches across issues
as you are exercising the accumulation of fluids is not normal..
have you seen a doctor-what did he say? when?






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Get a full checkup if you can.  Do you think you may have blood clots?  

My friend was a young "healthy" Type A with an undesirable diet who sat around a lot (his work) and developed blood clots in his legs.  He's recovered fine and eats/moves better now.
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The doctors here are useless and I refuse to go to them unless it is for something I need for my own diagnosis, like a test for breath hydrogen or something like that.

Today I feel better and have had zero carbohydrates.

Weight? I am overweight and nothing in the world has been able to change that for awhile. No type of exercise or eating habits has done anything.

My renal profile was normal.

I do not eat green beans but do eat red salt from some reservoir underneath ground, not sea salt.

Lately I have not had edema since eating more protein though, obviously, since I pee so much. Not today though since I have not eaten any carbohydrates.

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I pee a lot too, but it's probably a completely unrelated problem: adrenal fatigue.  Low aldosterone means your body doesn't retain enough sodium or eliminate enough potassium.  And where the sodium goes, there follows the water.
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I pee a lot too, but it's probably a completely unrelated problem: adrenal fatigue.  Low aldosterone means your body doesn't retain enough sodium or eliminate enough potassium.  And where the sodium goes, there follows the water.


I don't know about the above.. but it goes along with my thinking.. Green beans as they have all the minerals we need.. Sea salt as it has all the minerals we need.. and then if need be add the iodine the red kind for open cuts.. 2x2 square on the inner arm.. if still there in 2 hours you don't need any.. if not -then do it once a week or so..

as for me carbs just do me in - that is why I mostly eat green leaves as recommended in the diabetes book.. one gets used to it..  keep trying as that is the best way to find out what works for you..

as long as you are not weak from peeing then ok..

as for weight I can't budge it.. but I have been doing this much longer than you have .. I sometimes lose some when I am reaaaaaaallly careful to eat only meat and greens.. and walk ..  

as for dairy its in the GENO diet.. but not in BTD for diabetes.. so you need to be the judge..

now that you know a lot more then earlier in the year and have made some major changes .. take this test again??

http://www.dadamo.com/which_diet_is_right.htm     think of your ancestors.. !  all the best..  



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May I ask what supplements you are taking now?

Have you thought about one or two of Dr. D's Health Protocols?

Cardiovascular support protocol:

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BLOOD GROUP A

   1. Pantethine, 500 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily
   2. Gingko (Gingko biloba), 24% standardized extract, 60 mg: 1-2 capsules, daily
   3. Artichoke leaf (Cynara scolymnus), 500 mg: 2 capsules, twice daily
   4. Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily after surgery
   5. Polyvite A multivitamin: 2-3 capsules daily


You don't take everything in the protocol.  Try one supplement from the list and see how you feel.  


Detoxification Support Protocol

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Use this protocol for 1 week  BLOOD GROUP A

   1. Dandelion (Hytrax) 1 capsule, twice daily
   2. Fig powder: 1 tbsp before bed with a large glass of water
   3. ARA Plus: 2 capsule twice daily
   4. Green Drink (Harmonia Deluxe): 1 tblsp daily in juice or water
   5. Polyflora A (ABO Specific Probiotic): 2 capsule daily
   6. Dry skin brushing: Immediately before showering or bathing, start with the feet and gently brush up toward the heart. Brush from the extremities toward the center. Brush gently in a circular motion around your abdomen and breasts/chest area. The proper dry skin brush is made of vegetable bristles that are neither too stiff nor too soft. It shouldn't scratch, but you should feel some friction against the skin.


Intestinal Health Protocol

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  Use this protocol for 4 weeks.

BLOOD GROUP A

   1. Quercetin, 500 mg: 1 capsule with meals
   2. Aloe vera, 200 mg: 1 capsule with meals
   3. Jerusalem artichoke powder (Helianthus tuberosus), 750 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily
   4. Probiotic Supplement (Polyflora A): 2 capsule twice daily
   5. Intrinsa: 2 capsule twice daily
   6. Deflect A (ABO specific lectin blocking formula): 2 capsule twice daily
   7. Polyflora A (ABO specific probiotic): 2 capsule daily


Sharing with the best of intentions.

Jmho, Polyflora A and Jerusalem artichoke powder might be two supplements to consider.



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Well I should have food stamps shortly but I am not sure if it covers supplements...

Supplements uh I have some enzymes I have been taking, capyrlic acid, and once in awhile nattokinase.

Lots of green tea.

Goldie the diabetes book for Type A people recommends 7-9 CUPS of complex carbohydrates a day. Perhaps it was really the fact that I was consuming oats that have gluten? I have no idea.

I feel better eating ice cream than I do complex carbohydrates (vastly at this current time). That was one of the great things about thinking I was an explorer. I tried no complex carbohydrates or sugar for awhile and mentally I felt pretty good but other problems came about. It was also easy to eat meat and vegetable meals but my BM's wondered into nothingness, small and dark. It was not a good long term solution (obviously) but I could run fast for a long time and bike pretty well until it all started going downhill.

I fear my body just does not have enough insulin or is intolerant of complex carbohydrates almost entirely. Does that make any sense? Considering all the parts of my body that are not respondent to physical activity in the appropriate way except when I am off of complex carbohydrates I am not sure what else to think. The rare times where my breathing keeps up with what I am doing exercise wise is only when I am off complex carbohydrates or almost not eating them it seems. I am really low or not eating them when the circulation in my legs seems normal.

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I fear my body just does not have enough insulin or is intolerant of complex carbohydrates almost entirely. Does that make any sense? Considering all the parts of my body that are not respondent to physical activity in the appropriate way except when I am off of complex carbohydrates I am not sure what else to think. The rare times where my breathing keeps up with what I am doing exercise wise is only when I am off complex carbohydrates or almost not eating them it seems. I am really low or not eating them when the circulation in my legs seems normal.
So could you be an explorer I cant remember where you got to with that thought... If it were me, & avoiding complex carbs worked, I would just try that for a while & see... Maybe things will heal enough to move on after that...

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Destroyer,

I don't know if you can buy supplements with food stamps.  Does anyone know?  Could it vary from state to state?

So maybe loading up on vegetable proteins and other live food vegetables?

Maybe try introducing one Beneficial A grain at a time, but only once every few days.  Rice has no gluten.  I'd start with whole brown rice.

Another option would be to get some flax seed and grind that up. Sprinkle it over salads.  That would get you a highly beneficial fiber in your diet.

I'll keep thinking on this problem and hope others will chime in.


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When I was a child I was very sensitive to caffiene or so I thought. I would lay awake a long time if I had a soda but I also gained weight steadily. Now caffiene does not keep me awake but too much coffee seems to do something weird to insulin maybe. It can make me go to the bathroom but my face gets really red and I need some simple sugars or I feel too weird.

I like lamb but my bowel system does exactly what Dr. D describes as happens to type A people. I once had slightly low iron on a test but... not taking that to heart as I ate horrible at the time. It is a little hard to believe I am an explorer at this point seeing how my gut flora goes nuts and allergies get big as well as infections. My only good digestion was without lamb. I seem to resemble my mother's side which is nothing but riddeled with heart disease except my mother is sensitive to molds and has asthma (hates lamb with a passion and does not seem to be an explorer, type AB blood). I do not share her sensitivities. I did have allergies but my gut flora was destrotyed by wheat, ear infections, and antibiotics.

It would be great if I could just go see Dr. D but that is not going to happen as far as I know. It would be great because then it might give me some ideas on my mother but she seems maybe better off than me.
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Have you ever tried chia seeds? Not sure how they are for A's They are great for fibre & also calming inflammation, dry skin, protein (I could go on)
Hope you get sorted...Must be a real pain
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Yeah I am trying not to fail college and I have been going on and off struggling since 2005.
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