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BTypeAUS
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Hi,
I have a 12 year old boy who is autistic and I suspect he is a B like me (his father is an O and my other son is an O) since autism is neurological and B's have a tendency to develop such disorders.
I was wondering if anyone here is a parent of an autistic child and has tried putting them on the BTD? did they show improvements? any feedback much appreciated ..thanks


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HI BtypeAus yes, autism is often linked with a low secretine, an hormone, status, so the diet cold help a lot of A type autistic, search for Asperger syndrome or secreti e in Ask Dr D'Adamo or in Live Right , the book. I bet it may help very well also types B. Best wishes for great results !


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I don't have anyone.. but I am certain more than anything BTD/GENO will help!!!!

if you email me I will forward your name to soemone who is on BTD .. as far as I know with her children .. she is a great advocate..

The movie : Autism Speaks should be a medicine school must see before graduating as Doctor.. BTD/geno would be the next best step!!!!  actually BTD would be better as the geno groups are not ready for interpretaion in children.. and BLOOD TYPE  does not change..

all the best..



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Give it a try and let us know how it goes. Healing his intestines will have an effect on his brain.


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"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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I have a grandson with Aspergers who is also celiac. I wonder if gluten intolerance is a 'spectrum' rather like autism as some people have gluten intolerance without testing as celiac - me, included  . My grandson is much improved since gluten was removed from his diet so I do wonder if there is a connection between diet and autism?
I'd say that you have nothing to lose by trying it.
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PatMac, gluten intolerance does have a wide variability (celiac does as well). Gluten free diet is very common in the autistic community from what I've seen on the net with promising results.

I don't think there is enough out there to say diet causes autism (and one cause is probably the wrong approach), but in my view, I would think it would be safe to say that the wrong diet aggravates it and gets in the way of optimum function. Could be said about so many things.

Again, I'm not a doctor. Just my observations of other people's experiences and my own.

So many people on here have said, heal the gut, heal the body. Well, it may well also be heal the gut, heal the brain.


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I have a child with ADD who improved on BTD, and some people think that ADD is on the lightest end of the autism spectrum.

I know I've seen a lot of literature about gluten free/dairy free diets for autistic individuals, but I personally wonder if a B would need to cut out dairy to see results.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah (in Israel for the school year), 17yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I found this last year and Ms. Silberberg had phenominal results.  Not quite like Eat Right but heading in the same direction.  I hope this helps!

http://www.puttingyourkidsfirst.com/


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Wow, Tom.  That's really powerful!
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My sister has a son who has autism with an auditory processing disorder. She doesn't know his blood type but she is a B and her husband an AB.  Using the elimination diet, they discovered he has celiac and a casein, egg yolk and dairy allergy.  He's been on his diet now for about 6 months and my sister says it's "helped" his focus in the classroom and at home.  Oh, and NO sugar in his diet!!  He is in the 2nd grade (should be in 3rd) and they are considering taking him out and...... homeschooling? Or ????  Although my sister knows about the BTD, she doesn't follow it, they eat chicken and tomatoes.  I've mentioned the elimination of those two things but she's got alot going on now.  

Looking back now, she knows her husband is somewhere on the autism spectrum.  He's done very well for himself.  With the guidance of my sister and her husband, I know my nephew will find his way in life.  It will be a struggle for him but he'll do it.


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Our 12-yo DD was diagnosed with autism at age 4, 9 years before I heard about the BTD (almost to the day).  We tried several things.  It turned out that mega-doses of B6 with magnesium, per the Bernard Rimland study from the 1980s, had the most remarkable effect.  Within one week, she was more connected to us, and her meltdowns from OCD / rigid thinking melted away.

There are a few dietary approaches to dealing with austim: enzymes, GFCF, Feingold, supplementation.  It may be that Dr. D's GT4 diet, or perhaps a SWAMI version, would be helpful.

I know GFCF helps me, and that's a big part of GT4 and the BTD for Type O.

Good luck!  You might find the message boards at the O.A.S.I.S. Guide to Aspergers Syndrome to be very helpful.

GFCF=gluten free casein free


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Ok, rewatching lecture by Dr. Fasano. He mentioned autism in talking about gluten sensitivity and the brain. I rewatched this snippet three times-- Celiac/gluten sensitivity may lead to the development of autism (and a host of other things that weren't previously thought to be related)-- amazing stuff they are learning.  I'm so glad I am making this project because I am learning so much. Wow.
He mentioned that this is a controversial area that the center is working on.

He's also doing studies for preventive strategies in infants and children.

Test before going gluten free to confirm diagnosis. TTG-A test. Need to emphasize because his point is that CD diagnosis is a lifelong commitment to avoid even small amounts of contaminants. He mentioned this in his lecture and his assistant was extremely passionate about this point in her interview.




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Also, it just popped into my head that knowing risks for other associated issues for CD confirmed diagnosis would be beneficial.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Thank you all so much for your feedback...I am glad there are people here who are knowledgable in this area ....I have basically put my son on a gluten-free diet although he doesnt eat much gluten anyway (just a slice of bread a day) ..I know some kids with autism do really well on a GFDF diet but my sons dr did some tests on him when he was 4 or 5 and said he won't really benefit much from a GFCF diet..I feel the BTD would help a lot ..the problem is he eats chicken a lot which is the major problem for us now. Interesting articles posted here I will check each and every one of them, thanks again much appreciated


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Our 12-yo DD was diagnosed with autism at age 4, 9 years before I heard about the BTD (almost to the day).  We tried several things.  It turned out that mega-doses of B6 with magnesium, per the Bernard Rimland study from the 1980s, had the most remarkable effect.  Within one week, she was more connected to us, and her meltdowns from OCD / rigid thinking melted away.

There are a few dietary approaches to dealing with austim: enzymes, GFCF, Feingold, supplementation.  It may be that Dr. D's GT4 diet, or perhaps a SWAMI version, would be helpful.

I know GFCF helps me, and that's a big part of GT4 and the BTD for Type O.

Good luck!  You might find the message boards at the O.A.S.I.S. Guide to Aspergers Syndrome to be very helpful.

GFCF=gluten free casein free


My son didnt do well on B6, it uppset his stomach so we stopped giving him it. We tried so many things back when he was younger but didn't really see much difference. One supplement we tried was called DMG and  had alcohol in it but we saw some positive results although it upset his stomach too.
I will check the OASIS message boards, thanks.


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Being "on the spectrum" myself, I can say that the diet has certainly helped me. I still have a hard time, made worse by things such as too much mercury in my mouth (neurotoxin), lyme disease (nervous system again) and .... um .... kids.  But the diet has certainly helped.  You have nothing to lose.


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Thank you all so much for your feedback...I am glad there are people here who are knowledgable in this area ....I have basically put my son on a gluten-free diet although he doesnt eat much gluten anyway (just a slice of bread a day) ..I know some kids with autism do really well on a GFDF diet but my sons dr did some tests on him when he was 4 or 5 and said he won't really benefit much from a GFCF diet..I feel the BTD would help a lot ..the problem is he eats chicken a lot which is the major problem for us now. Interesting articles posted here I will check each and every one of them, thanks again much appreciated


What tests? An allergy test?


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What tests? An allergy test?


The usual tests they do for kids with Autism like hair analysis, blood tests, urine tests, stool tests ..they were sent to the USA for examination.


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I would be curious about the blood tests, what they order in such a case.


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great link to share on FB Sharon, thanks!


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Lola, Great idea! I'll be posting the link on FB. It was great seeing your brother yesterday...he's looking great.
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He mentioned that this is a controversial area that the center is working on.

He's also doing studies for preventive strategies in infants and children.

Test before going gluten free to confirm diagnosis. TTG-A test. Need to emphasize because his point is that CD diagnosis is a lifelong commitment to avoid even small amounts of contaminants. He mentioned this in his lecture and his assistant was extremely passionate about this point in her interview.


I think until recently doctors had few diets that helped so they generally did not even KNOW what to advise..

I think the important thing for any parent coming HERE is that THIS is a NEW beginning.. what was was.. allergies belly aches all sort of things will improve if you learn the way of BTD.. first it heals the body and little by little allows you to add things that are needed fort he condition that bothered you before..

in my mind there is a crime being conducted by all doctors who know of BTD and for some reason are not following it's science and testing all done for them.. .. also I think some issues are overblown by medicine.. such as gluten or other sensitivities.. yes they may indeed be out there in some, (for me it was milk) but just like chronic issues like diabetes, chronic fatigue and the like, they are all food originated illnesses and can be greatly modified.  NOW obviously there was a propensity for it in the first place for some things.. but once we learned what to eat and what to avoid, then life becomes a possibility never dreamed of before.. SO NEVER accept what was before.. always be trying to use foods to make A great difference .. all else will open different doors to new understanding.

I feel for moms who have so much to learn, and so much to deal with, and yet there is never a day of rest.. may this board be a place of good info for you all.   


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