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Di13
Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 2:09pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I could use some help. I am eating so many of the same foods I am growing restless and sick of them fast. I eat the same things every day and the only variety I get is a different fish maybe for dinner.
I am allergic to fruit and berries and most veggies unless cooked. I feel like I am going to turn into a peanut. I have rice cakes daily.  I eat turkey and chicken rarely and am trying to have fish for dinner as much as possible. My lunch salads are usually tuna or beans with olive oil. I want to avoid all cheese due to my allergies. When I am home and need to grab a quick snack after working out or before running out the door it seems I eat more peanuts!   Any suggestions for food ideas. Especially fast ones.
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What are the reactions you get when you eat the food that you seem to be allergic to? by that i mean is do you get

a bloated stomach

a skin or rash reaction

loose stools

describe in a much detail and exactly what fruits are the worst and we will try and help.

have you kept a simple food diary to pin point exactly what does what?


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First HUGS! Been there! So before you completely burn out, take a deep breath!

Second. Ok... I don't know what your pocket book looks like, nor do I know your allergies but there are plenty of recipes to make trail mix or bars.

If you are in a pinch - Have you looked at the larabars? They run $1 a piece, usually contain dates and then fruits. The apple pie is complaint with A blood type (although I'm not sure with your allergies).

Almonds - if you are not allergic - they are a great alternative to peanuts. You can even season with your own complaint spices if you get inspired.

Pecans - YUM... Tis the Season and you can buy them fresh (At least around here) and bulk. My favorite guilty pleasure is rolling them in ghee, sprinkle garlic salt (and other complaint seasonings I feel like) and bake 250 for 40-60 minutes (de-greased but still full of flavor). YUM!

Pre-cooking - Right now I am making left overs of my supper to have on hand to eat during the next day. If you can't handle raw veggies - Steam or blanch your complaint veggies and seasons veggies and put in a container to grab the next day.

Third - here we go. I'm a promoter of GTD. You can figure out your GenoType by reading the book. This has opened up a world of foods I thought I couldn't have! I strongly suggest it!

Hope you find something that works so you don't go mad!


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Di13
Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 2:53pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hello : )
All fruits (except berries) and uncooked veggies (except onion, mushrooms and leafy greens) make my throat itch, my ears itch and my throat and ears turn red I sneeze a bunch of times my throat will thicken so it is hard to swallow and by that time I take benadryl because my throat feels like it is closing. Lemons and Limes I am fine with.  Pitted fruits are the worst an avocado is brutal. You may wonder why I try fruit at all. Sometimes my allergy to them seems less than other times so I used to get away with 1/2 a banana or orange until my BTD said no way. So I was giving fruit I had ignored for awhile a second change last week and it ended up in a lot of benadryl.

Berries upset my stomach.

I had allergy testing which confirmed the allergy and the doc thinks it is due to me having high pollen and outdoor tree allergies that the fruits and veggies are porous (sp?) and that is why when they are cooked I am okay...
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Di13
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Quoted from Monti


If you are in a pinch - Have you looked at the larabars? They run $1 a piece, usually contain dates and then fruits. The apple pie is complaint with A blood type (although I'm not sure with your allergies).

Almonds - if you are not allergic - they are a great alternative to peanuts. You can even season with your own complaint spices if you get inspired.

Pecans - YUM... Tis the Season and you can buy them fresh (At least around here) and bulk. My favorite guilty pleasure is rolling them in ghee, sprinkle garlic salt (and other complaint seasonings I feel like) and bake 250 for 40-60 minutes (de-greased but still full of flavor). YUM!

Pre-cooking - Right now I am making left overs of my supper to have on hand to eat during the next day. If you can't handle raw veggies - Steam or blanch your complaint veggies and seasons veggies and put in a container to grab the next day.

Third - here we go. I'm a promoter of GTD. You can figure out your GenoType by reading the book. This has opened up a world of foods I thought I couldn't have! I strongly suggest it!

Hope you find something that works so you don't go mad!


I will check these items out for sure. Something about the fruit not being in fresh form I am ok with. I will try out the pecan recipe and you are right I should steam some veggies the night before. I know everyone has their own excuses but working full time, school, going to the gym and planning a wedding I think time is never my friend. I know I have to make time. I also have the Geno book on order and hopefully will get it in a week from Amazon.
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Have you tried some probiotics (Polyflora A) or lectin remover (Deflect A) or intestinal health aid (Intrinsa)?

It is very important to get the body processing the foods you eat properly to get the maximum benefit from them.  It is quite normal for people new to this diet to have some problems with digestion and allergies due to damage to the gut from previous diet.


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Hi Di,
How about eating all your fruits and vegetables cooked?  That's what I do.  I don't have 'allergies', but do not digest raw fruits and veggies very well.  Since I'm a Smoothie drinker, I even cook several cups of the fruit that goes into my smoothie (low simmer for 2 or 3 hours) and keep it in the fridge.  It sits so much better with my body that way.
I lightly stir-fry most of my vegetables.  They don't have to be overcooked, in my case, just tender and still slightly firm and crisp.



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Di13,

Hi and welcome! Although not as severe, I am pretty sure I went through a similar experience when I began this way of life. Trust me, all the advice you can get from the great people on this forum will help immensely! I am proof! I still suffer from outside allergens but eating for my blood type, then genotype has been worth the time it takes to see results. I ate the same breakfast for years before and realized it was doing me much harm. I just read, experimented and listened to those who had already "been there" and eventually became healthier, lost weight without trying, and finally feel more 'in control".....be patient and take one day at a time!


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I will check these items out for sure. Something about the fruit not being in fresh form I am ok with. I will try out the pecan recipe and you are right I should steam some veggies the night before. I know everyone has their own excuses but working full time, school, going to the gym and planning a wedding I think time is never my friend. I know I have to make time. I also have the Geno book on order and hopefully will get it in a week from Amazon.


When you get your GTD book, check out the detox for Explorers in the section for Explorers. You may need to try a gentle detox for a few days until you are less senstitve to the foods you can have. The GTD might allow some more foods that you may be less sensitive to.


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in adjunct with GTD I d also check out the advice, in terms of protocols and food lists given in the allergies book.....
http://www.dadamo.com/books.htm
many have cured their susceptibility to certain beneficials once having healed their gut

check out all digestive sups available up in DPN


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Quoted from Captain_Janeway


When you get your GTD book, check out the detox for Explorers in the section for Explorers. You may need to try a gentle detox for a few days until you are less senstitve to the foods you can have. The GTD might allow some more foods that you may be less sensitive to.


That is funny you mention that because when I read the descriptions I am pretty certain I am the Explorer because of my chemical intolerances, body shape, index fingers and the dr's never figuring out what ails me or what is wrong is always something very rare and not often seen or found easily. My book said it will be delivered between October 6th and 22nd!   It is coming from the other side of the state. I can't wait, maybe being an explorer I will be able to have a few more options in my diet. I saw a blurb on Explorers having meat and cheese which would be great but if they can have wheat too then I can't see how my old diet was wrong. In a way I am hoping explorers shouldn't have wheat because then it would explain wheat as my culrpit to a lot of my problems and I would feel like I found some answers.
Thank you everyone for your help.
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Quoted from Lola
in adjunct with GTD I d also check out the advice, in terms of protocols and food lists given in the allergies book.....
http://www.dadamo.com/books.htm
many have cured their susceptibility to certain beneficials once having healed their gut

check out all digestive sups available up in DPN


Oh I have this book. The Allergies one. I have been eating more of the Superbenefical foods in it and avoiding the neutrals that I should have few and far in between...
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I don't know what fruits you can have but how about apple sauce, pear butter (just cooked pureed pear with spices) or pumpkin butter? I can buy these locally with all natural ingredients.. Whatever nut butters you can have (probably not almonds as they are in the peach family) spread on a rice cake with some compliant jam or apple butter.

I am allergic to several fruits as well in the raw state. They cross contaminate with the birch tree allergy. I am seeing improvement after almost 2 years on this diet so I am hoping for continued results. I wish the best for you!

Lisa


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I would have a three day break from all fruit then evry three days i would pick a fruit and try a little first thing in the morning. note the fruits that affect you the worst then we can anayls there chemical make up and see if there is a trend, there usually is.

if it is really bad then sto that fruit and do what you normally do for 3 days then try again with another fruit.

the ones to try firsy are you super beneficial fruits. if you like that is. then we'll see if we can't get a bit deper into this.

what did your doctor recomend and what tests did he do?


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+),  Lewis (a+ b-) Fructose Malabsorber. Explorer.
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i went through all the cross reaction theroes, but in the end it was foods high in amines that were the problem.

in addition to fructose malabsorption of course. with a suitably large gasp between trouble some fruits there is no reaction now, or at worse a mild one.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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if it is really bad then sto that fruit and do what you normally do for 3 days then try again with another fruit.

the ones to try firsy are you super beneficial fruits. if you like that is. then we'll see if we can't get a bit deper into this.

what did your doctor recomend and what tests did he do?


Ok I will do this. I tried with a plum and avocado since it had been some time but the more I had it the worse the reaction got. I will try this and log it and get back to you thank you! The doc just did scratch test and blood work. I am able to eat these freeze dried apple snacks I got today from Trader Joes. The doc also said just avoid all the fruit. Yikes.
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I highly recommend the GenoType Diet as well.  Might help with some of that sensitivity.


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I would tend to recommend SWAMI since it can create a more customized diet to avoid allergens, particularly true if you go to a practitioner that uses the SWAMI GenoType version.


Directory of IFHI practitioners (not all of which use SWAMI):

http://www.dadamo.com/ifhi/csvsearch.pl


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You may also want to look at the amount of mercury that is in the fish you are eating.

Mercury consumption can sometimes makes allergies worse.


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Quoted from C_Sharp
You may also want to look at the amount of mercury that is in the fish you are eating.

Mercury consumption can sometimes makes allergies worse.

Any increased toxin levels can make the allergy reactions more intense and make you react to more substances...


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i agree getting the odds in your favour is a good idea generally.

so get a water filter, a BASIC one will do.

get a chlorine shower filter.

read all labels, so for example no fluorine in toothpaste,

cut down hard on the sugar (this should help the throat anyway)

make notes when fruit is over or under ripe and just right.

keep the rest of your diet as simple as you can manage while you suss this out.

i also think swami would be advisable.



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Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+),  Lewis (a+ b-) Fructose Malabsorber. Explorer.
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might be of interest

Drinking water with red beetroot food color antagonizes esophageal carcinogenesis in N-nitrosomethylbenzylamine-treated rats.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20438319


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I wonder where I would find red beet root color?
I already filter my water and use all natural Tom's toothpaste. I also eat very little sugar. I do not like sweets and am not eating any processed carbs on this diet. Thank you everyone for the advice.
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makes great blush!!! all natural as well


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