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balletomane
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Hi guys,

I just came back from my vacation, having "cheated" for about a week (out of the two and a half) and feeling psychologically very good about it. Yes, there was a shortage of available food that was compliant while on the road, but I also made a conscious choice to eat some delicacies that were simply too hard to resist, especially the French and Swiss pastries, chocolates (with non-compliant ingredients), froie gras, rösti (Swiss-style potato hash brown) and espresso

I did suffer from a few days of sore throat, acid reflux, cold sore and a few moments of stomach pain, but at the same time I got to relax from the mental punishment I imposed on myself when I was totally compliant back home. I also let my DH have all the comfort food he wanted. He had been feeling very good except for the last day when diarrhea struck. Well, now that we've both had our indulgences, life goes back to normal with a compliant diet. But I think the good that came out of this trip was the enjoyment and relaxed mood we shared when not having to nitpick every morsel of food we put into our mouths.

One thing I have noticed is that other factors in life such as the quality of air, water and exercise play as much, if not more, of a role as food. In places like Switzerland, where I stayed for a week, I felt so good from the clean air and water and from walking the steep slopes. The people who live there seem healthy and many of them live very long lives due to their pristine environment and acticve life styles. So now I have a more balanced view. The polluted environment I live in is counterproductive to health, and that's why I need to be extremely careful with the department where I can have some sort of control--food. Imagine if we could all live in unpolluted environments and eat compliantly! We could actually live disease and pain-free until 120!~  



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Glad you had a nice holiday!!!  I hadn't even read this thread when I commented on the other, about stress of guilt over cheating could be worse on the body than the cheating itself.  

It is all about balance...and to know that we do have the choice to cheat if we want to.  We won't want to do much of it, because the body will talk to us, but it gives us the freedom to not be "under the law," which causes us to want to rebel more.

It is human nature to want to do something more when we are told we can't.  So, knowing that we are under grace is very helpful.  That seems to be Dr. D's approach.


"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, dance like no-one is watching, sing as if no one were listening, and live every day as if it were paradise!!!  "

"A thankful and merry heart works like good medicine!"  

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interesting but not unreasonable. the trick is to do it rarely and for some that is a trick to far. as they say Christmas comes but once a year. not once a month.


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Hi guys,

I just came back from my vacation, having "cheated" for about a week

I did suffer from a few days of sore throat, acid reflux, cold sore and a few moments of stomach pain, but at the same time I got to relax from the mental punishment I imposed on myself when I was totally compliant back home.


Wondering if you were not so hard on yourself all the time..trying to follow the diet in your mind..at 100% thinking it's torture, maybe you might not be tempted to  do a 360, totally unhealthy eating while you were on vacation. What I'm trying to say is the O diet should be mostly pleasurable for you to follow...so that you can stay on it all the time. You need to make it that way. I'm also saying that you might not be ready for "Best" yet, if it's so painful, and more ready for "Better"..because consistency is the most important. Just an observation, not a judgement..  

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Narnia,

I totally agree with you! Free will is what makes our experiences rich and what makes us human.

Policychecker,

Thank goodness this kind of vacation comes but once every few years  

Mayflowers,

The O diet is totally doable for me where I live, coz there are no good pastries and dairy-wheat concoctions of such superb quality as found in Europe  

But if I were to live in Europe, I would surely find it a torture to stay 100% on the O diet!!! The meat and veggies there though, are also of better quality there so it wouldn't be that difficult to try to be compliant either. I just have to really work on the temptations .


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Narnia,

Mayflowers,

The O diet is totally doable for me where I live, coz there are no good pastries and dairy-wheat concoctions of such superb quality as found in Europe  

But if I were to live in Europe, I would surely find it a torture to stay 100% on the O diet!!! The meat and veggies there though, are also of better quality there so it wouldn't be that difficult to try to be compliant either. I just have to really work on the temptations .


I know it's so hard.. wheat is addictive and it has opiate properties.. but, I don't know.. they say the "good" natural food is so wonderful in Europe like France for instance that no one there really eats the French pastries, and therefore the French are not overweight and are very healthy, having the lowest heart attack rate even though they smoke!  
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I'm glad you had a good time on vacation, and also that you're ready to step right back into healthy eating now that you're home. Most people (those without health problems) can probably handle "eating wrong for their types" for a week or two; but the real damage occurs when you make "occasonal cheats" into "regular treats" and slip off the diet completely.

Also see if you can bring some of that "healthy attitude towards eating" home with you. Don't stop being compliant, but you can eat well without feeling like you're "nitpicking every morsel you put into your mouth."


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I know it's so hard.. wheat is addictive and it has opiate properties.. but, I don't know.. they say the "good" natural food is so wonderful in Europe like France for instance that no one there really eats the French pastries, and therefore the French are not overweight and are very healthy, having the lowest heart attack rate even though they smoke!  


Hee hee, I'm not sure if the French don't really eat their pastries and that the low heart attack rate is due to that or due to the wine they drink   But yea, the natural food is so good that I felt great not having to constantly think about whether some produce is organic or not while shopping or ordering at restaurants. Of course, there is still a difference between organic and non-organic, but my guess is that even if non-organic, a fresh produce there gives more nutritional value than the non-organic ones found in the States or in China!

When riding through the countryside on trains, I saw herds of cows (many white ones!) grazing in the open air.... I immediately thought of "grass-fed" beef (Hunter habits die hard!) One time I ordered a special organic beef steak and it was something to die for!

And the cherries in season were the best-tasting I've ever had in my life!

Even for "avoids" at (good) restaurants, because the raw ingredients used are of such high quality, I did not feel any immediate bad effects. So I guess there are avoids and then there are AVOIDS depending on the quality of the produce!?!?!?!


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I'm glad you had a good time on vacation, and also that you're ready to step right back into healthy eating now that you're home. Most people (those without health problems) can probably handle "eating wrong for their types" for a week or two; but the real damage occurs when you make "occasonal cheats" into "regular treats" and slip off the diet completely.

Also see if you can bring some of that "healthy attitude towards eating" home with you. Don't stop being compliant, but you can eat well without feeling like you're "nitpicking every morsel you put into your mouth."


Yea, I feel that I'm gaining a sense of balance with my attitude and it can only be healthy to get rid of the "guilt" associated with eating.

By the way, I ordered Kosher food on the airplane and my husband ordered Hindu. We got funny looks by the flight attendants   But it turned out to be a success. However, I got tempted by Mezonoth on the flight back home... it was really good. That proves the opiod theory right... I had been cheating on pastries and I couldn't stop  !


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I did suffer from a few days of sore throat, acid reflux, cold sore and a few moments of stomach pain, but at the same time I got to relax from the mental punishment I imposed on myself when I was totally compliant back home.


Coming from a place called "mental punishment" is not a place I would want to be in.  Perhaps you can come from a place called "mental reward".  That's a story you can create that is positive!  


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Glad you had a great time!!!!


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Yea, I feel that I'm gaining a sense of balance with my attitude and it can only be healthy to get rid of the "guilt" associated with eating.

By the way, I ordered Kosher food on the airplane and my husband ordered Hindu. We got funny looks by the flight attendants   But it turned out to be a success. However, I got tempted by Mezonoth on the flight back home... it was really good. That proves the opiod theory right... I had been cheating on pastries and I couldn't stop  !
Glad you enjoyed your trip!!
So can you please tell me what you got served on the plane? I am off to LA in less than 8 weeks & prob'y should start thinking about that..

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Balletomane,

I know exactly what you mean about France/Europe and their wonderful food and scenery.  My "happy place" for yoga is lying in a field of lavender at the Abbye De Senanque near the hilltop village of Gordes. Most families in the south walk, bike or play sports,too! I always feel so good over there, no matter what I eat!( I don't go crazy)

The sheep in the Jura and Haute Provence graze on wild thyme; especially in the rural south, chickens and ducks are free range; most of the French have their own gardens and pride themselves on eating the freshest food possible simply because it TASTES BETTER! One of the vintners told us they were not allowed to add sulfites to their wine as we do here in the USA....and oh yes, I love California wine but French wine is still the very best! ;  


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I digress about the wine......

Ribera del Duero, Spain......French wine for now......laisser passer, laisser faire.....
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Glad you enjoyed your trip!!
So can you please tell me what you got served on the plane? I am off to LA in less than 8 weeks & prob'y should start thinking about that..



Possum,

On my way to Paris I was served a hot meal consisting of steamed rice, scrambled eggs, steamed salmon, green beans and carrot. That was delicious. For the cold meal I think I was served a bagel with pastrami. Luckily my husband chose Hindu and had a slice of salmon with some salad, so I swapped with him.

On my way back from Paris I was served penne with ground beef... I would love to eat the beef but the penne was something I wouldn't touch. So I swapped with my husband's Hindu meal, which consisted of curry chicken with saffron rice. Yum!

The Kosher meal offers better quality meat than the regular airline meal but it does contain gluten and dairy products, so beware. I think an O would probably do better with a Hindu meal (non-vegetarian)... but I'm not sure if the airline you choose offers that.


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Coming from a place called "mental punishment" is not a place I would want to be in.  Perhaps you can come from a place called "mental reward".  That's a story you can create that is positive!  


Yes, that's really a better place to be! I think my body was rewarded but psychologically, I got too caught up in the nitty gritty of food preparation and got a bit obsessed about it so much so that I lost balance in other areas of my life. The stress involved in making every choice of food "correct" actually took a toll on me as I simply could not handle all of that and my job and other responsibilities. I realize I have to take things more easily. Hopefully in due course I will come to a good balance and that eating compliantly will not become a full-time job in itself.


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Glad you had a great time!!!!


Thanks, Frosty! Your message before my trip really helped me feel more relaxed and enjoy the vacation~~thanks !


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Lola...have you ever tried Chateau d'Arsac from appelation Margaux , near St. Emilion just east of Bordeaux? Prime vineyards and good tout les temps!
Will I be able to get Ribera del Duero here? If not, I know a place that imports...so maybe....


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try Maleolus, Hacienda de Monasterios or Mata Romera, Pesquera......all good and reasonable in price

there s also the Vega Cecilia, but we won t go there!!!

yes the French one you mention is very pleasant......


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Thanks for the recommendations, Lola! Be sure I will be trying....
Even though I am only able to drink one glass ( I get TOO relaxed ) I am glad wine is ok for my GT!   My whole family, both sides, big wine enthusiasts, and most are BT "A" with some O's. Even as children, my cousins and I drank "sips" from a cordial glass at all the Holiday dinners at our grandmothers house. Must be a French thing. Wonderful memories!


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