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balletomane
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I'm reading LR4YT and have some questions about portions and some details about the lists.

First of all, I noticed "0-3" for some avoid items like milk and yogurt. Why is the range given at all if it is an avoid? Does it mean I can occasionally sneak in some?

Then I noticed there are beneficial items under the "Neutral" lists. Does it mean they are equally beneficial as the Tier One? Or should I eat those less frequently than Tier One food?

For meat and poultry, it says I should have 7-11 servings per week and add 1-2 servings since I am Rh-. Now, should I give preference to the food in Tier One, even if it's neutral, rather than beneficial food in the "Neutral" list? 8-13 servings of meat sounds soooo much for me. I have already increased my meat intake but... I can't imagine having it every meal

Now, for vegies, I realized that I have been having items from the Neutral list every day (in my whole juice). But according to Dr. D, these should be eaten only 2-3 times a week in my case. Is there any harm in eating too much of these items, especially if they are beneficial (like carrots)? Or is the "extra nutrients" just wasted? If they are just "neutral," would it be just not utilized eventually? What about the antioxidants or vitamins they contain?

For oils, I am allowed 3-6 tbsp of oil per week. That seems really little for me, considering I normally have at least 1 tbsp of olive oil for my daily salad--that's already 7 tbsp. And I also use ghee or grapeseed oil for stir-frying or pan-frying my meat and vegies. Is there any harm in doing that? If I have to eat that much meat per week, it doesn't make sense to me that I can't use more oil for cooking it!

For grains, what does "1/2 cup dry; 1 muffin, 2 slices of bread" on top of the list mean? Does it mean 1 portion equals to all of those, or just one of those? If I don't eat any bread of muffin, how many cups of dry grain/pasta equal to 1 portion? I am allowed only 0-2 portions of grain per week... wow, that's really against the way I was brought up with (1 bowl of rice for every meal)!

Lastly, what does "MM" mean?





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[color=blue]Ohhhh .. well .. You must be one of those lucky females where nothing bothers you- where you are healthy and have no illnesses to look forward to..everyone in your family lives a good healthy life and they spend little or no time at doctors offices. Lucky you..

Now, however if you have any concerns .. and if you grew up in a culture where you ate completely different food, like people in the Himalayas lets say, where the food might have been pure, homegrown, and without chemicals added to the green lawn outside and you are still living there- then you might be on the right track with what you wrote and should put the books away and continue to eat the way you are accustomed to. Good wishes for you..

BUT if you are living in the West, in a modern Country where food is no longer what it once was - then hanging on to that book is going to be important for your way of LIFE.

People here have read the book and have decided that for some reason we don't fit the above descriptions, and we don't feel so good or we have stuff to worry about getting older, and we need books to learn what we might be able to do -to feel better- to get well- and stay well.

For us it was important to see that we have options - we needed to make hard decisions to LEARN new ways of living - and choose new ways of thinking.

LR4YT is a good book, not only in the LISTINGS of things to eat but ALL the other words.  The front pages have enormous amounts of info to absorb and to 'recognize' as " ahhh " that is why, and ohhhh that is how!!

Part of that discovery will be the thought that you are O blood type- you might be something called a NON Secretor (maybe not- only -3% are). As a unique type O you might have experienced foods that may have given you a skin break outs while young, or rashes on occasion, or a headache, or made you tired, or just plain not understand what is going on in your body.

Then after you sorted that all out you might have read in the book that grains have certain effects on you that are unique to O's.  That grains can give you all sort of grieve.  Allergic reaction, cold hands and feet, weight gain and other stuff.  YOU might never have made the connections between food and how you feel - yet here you are reading a book that will introduce you to a way of life that makes food it's centerpiece for LIVING - living well.  So for most O's we have learned that when we don't eat any grains,  WE feel better.  After a while the grains no longer appeal to us and we learn to eat other things.  

As for foods on the neutral section .. well that is food that will not hurt you - but it will not do any healing within you if you need healing. I use neutrals only if I don't have any beneficial food available.  On a train station, in a European coffee shop or going to my friends house for a party.  You see I need to get healthy.  I was ill and I am intending to be the best I can be when I am old.

The Beneficial's you see in LR4YT are broken down in later books to Super Beneficial's and Beneficial's.  Super Beneficial's as I see them are Medicinal Quality Foods that will ALLOW my body to help heal it self!  Beneficial's by comparison support my body to stay as healthy as I currently am and allow me time to start feeling better every day.

You see I have a few problems I developed before I knew about Blood type eating- I have issues that cost me many unpleasant moments, and quite a lot of time at the doctors offices.  I found that regular meds don't seem to address UNDERLYING causes of what my body requires to heal from the inside out. Until I came across LR4YT I had no clue what I could do.  But then I sat down and read every word from cover to cover and I saw my mom's health inheritance in the book , and I saw my fathers health gift of inheritance for me, I saw the reason my brother is not as well as he could be and finally I saw why I need to test the THEORY of the book.

The way I did it was by following the suggestions.  I also bought the subsequent books on the same subject, and I read them as well.. there are several, but you have the BEST intro book in your hands, so no problem.  If you just do the learning part and NON of the diet parts it suggests that is still going to make a big difference, since you will learn that you can do things as you always did them - or you can change the very nucleolus of every cell within you by trying to change - while STAYING HERE to communicate with us and ask all your questions, as you have done.. congrats you found us.

Here you can look up what certain foods do for your blood type, there are links to it, and here you will learn why we now do things differently for years and years, and why we still learn new ways of eating every day.

I had moved on to GENO type eating which is another new way- same subject just different starting points- and then I went back and read the other books that apply to me, and then I decided to change some foods to accommodate my CONDITION.  

So you see .. your questions are good ones.. others will be here in a few words telling you what to look for - where to link to - read, while I gave you my intro to my way of living AFTER I READ the book many years ago. I had read many other diet books and found them not having the intelligent science behind them - and so I always come back to learn more from DR.D.  The fact hat you are here is so wonderful because it is the new person looking for questions and answers that gives us all a chance to test what we have learned and to share our thoughts..

Good luck and welcome on this journey you are about to embark on.. it's on exiting one that you will most likely not forget...

as for "MM"  are those not candies?? I love choc candy..

here is a link worth looking at.. you can click on most words ..some are interesting and ahead of your book, but your BOOK - you should protect it: "it is a classic"   So good luck and I will see you again here??? yes


http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

http://www.dadamo.com/faq/smartfaq.cgi  

http://www.dadamo.com/glossary/glossary.cgi?

and now I am sending this intro to a young friend for her to learn from your questions!!!!


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie
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sorry I did not see all the other posts you made..   did you see the post that was here just the other day on portion control?? someone might know how to resurect it.. I thought you where brand NEW.. sorrry ..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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No problem Goldie. In fact I appreciate your taking the time to write all that for me  . I did saw one thread about portion control but in my case it's not so much about reducing weight. I don't have a weight issue... well, perhaps the opposite in some eyes as I am on the very lean side. But yes, being on the BTD has helped me maintain my weight (which I'm happy with) without worrying about taking "too much meat"!

Eating rice did make me drowsy but people in my culture take this as a "given" (and even have a funny idiom to describe it) and never give it a second thought! Dr. D makes me understand WHY and get rid of this annoying problem!

I was just looking at my food diary for this past week and I congratulated myself for having drastically reduced my intake of rice and other grain. I think I can gradually wean myself off from grains as a staple food. Just today I made a baked yellow zucchini according to a suggestion by someone on this forum (thanks to the person who posted that!). It was so yummy and made me realize I could eat this type of veggies to replace rice  





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You have come a long way ... in just a day or a few.. just let me say that presupposing you learn more things.. one baby-aspirin can kill some and save the life of others.. so portion control?? It has nothing to do with weight loss.. if you are skinny lucky you.. then your body will balance it self not in pounds at first but in HEALTH..

I see you are entering pre-meno pause.. if you KNOW that then you are in it for a long while already.. I would (personally) recommend Suzanne Sommers books on hormone issues..(I think it good to keep hormones for life/muscles and all)  but I would also start with supplements from NAP, as they are going to address Blood type specifically .. and at least you will not take one item good for you while also getting something that is on avoid.. (avoids will make you sick and early death)  and ONE more thing :  IT will save you much money trying this or trying that.. with NAP you are safe..

good luck on your project of self discovery.. you made a big jump.

portion .. ?
Avoids: one is to many and a thousand lets say choc. are not enough ..

Neutral use occasional for fill in as away from home..

Beneficial's  make you stay as healthy as you are today

Super Beneficial's will help heal your body and prevent bad health issues in future.

Nap provides healthful sups specific to your needs.

Look also for the several 'Conditions' Books and the ENCYCLOPEDIA .. it makes for a good book shelve of learning


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Can anyone help me with my questions at the top of the thread, please?




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You said:
I'm reading LR4YT and have some questions about portions and some details about the lists.

First of all, I noticed "0-3" for some avoid items like milk and yogurt. Why is the range given at all if it is an avoid? Does it mean I can occasionally sneak in some?


Now I think that you have gone from knowing nothing to knowing more.. BUT I THINK it is time you got one of the nwer books at ts they are  different and easier to llok at ..

Avoid means you will get sick eating it.. so why wpould you?? I dont think ANYOPNE wpould eb able to tell you how often you can't do without on avoid .. non of us would want you to POISON your self..

You said: For meat and poultry, it says I should have 7-11 servings per week and add 1-2 servings since I am Rh-. Now, should I give preference to the food in Tier One, even if it's neutral, rather than beneficial food in the "Neutral" list? 8-13 servings of meat sounds soooo much for me. I have already increased my meat intake but... I can't imagine having it every meal

The newer book would be easier.. BUT JUST MAYBE the best would be for you to test and see if GENO info would make more sense to you.. you might not only be O neg.. you might be a Gatherer and that changes things..   -- if your family has cancer or diabetes in the history for you to look at then that would come into play..

You said: vNow, for vegies, I realized that I have been having items from the Neutral list every day (in my whole juice). But according to Dr. D, these should be eaten only 2-3 times a week in my case. Is there any harm in eating too much of these items, especially if they are beneficial (like carrots)? Or is the "extra nutrients" just wasted? If they are just "neutral," would it be just not utilized eventually?

Neutrals are just fill in food will not hurt you just add calories.. and not all carrotts are good for anyone ..

What about the antioxidants or vitamins they contain?
  these items will not hurt you..

You said: For oils, I am allowed 3-6 tbsp of oil per week. That seems really little for me, considering I normally have at least 1 tbsp of olive oil for my daily salad--that's already 7 tbsp. And I also use ghee or grapeseed oil for stir-frying or pan-frying my meat and vegies. Is there any harm in doing that? If I have to eat that much meat per week, it doesn't make sense to me that I can't use more oil for cooking it!..

You have a good book in front of you.. a new way of looking at food benefits.. test your self.. if more oil is what you wish-- its a free country and the decision is always yours.. -- but you may find that a little in the pan is better than frying all your foods.. ?????  just supposing...

You said: For grains, what does "1/2 cup dry; 1 muffin, 2 slices of bread" on top of the list mean? Does it mean 1 portion equals to all of those, or just one of those? If I don't eat any bread of muffin, how many cups of dry grain/pasta equal to 1 portion? I am allowed only 0-2 portions of grain per week... wow, that's really against the way I was brought up with (1 bowl of rice for every meal)!

IF you have no illness in your family then do what you think you wish.. we most of us all have stated clearly all over the place that grains make us sick, sleepy and miserable.. if that does not apply to you then use what you KNOW and decide for your type.. everyone is different..

did I answer it now??  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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0 to 3 servings means practically no servings at all

in case any food category were in your neutral list
you could have up to 3 servings of that a week.....

otherwise, 0 to me means as good as none


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I struggle with portion issues as well, but I am learning that documenting and keeping a food journal helps me as well, balletomane..

Keep up the good work!
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Thanks all for your replies and suggestions. I think I am already on my way to better grain portion management and have confidence that it will work for me

However, just want to make the best of what little amount of grains I am allowed... I still need clarification for the following:

"1/2 cup dry; 1 muffin, 2 slices of bread" >>>
Does it mean 1 portion equals to all of those items combined, or just one of those? If I don't eat any bread of muffin, how many cups of dry grain/pasta equal to 1 portion?




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1 portion means one of those......unfortunately
I feel your pain


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Oh, I see....  
Well, it's comforting to know there are O nonnies out there who share the pain... But at the same time I feel empowered to have this knowledge, which helps explain many of the health issues I have had since childhood.




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