Quoted from Mrs T O+

ABNW, I find it hard to believe that each person has the exact same body clock.  I am a morning person, so the recommendations might work better for me.  My aunt's normal rhythm was something like this: wake up around 2 PM & go to sleep around the time most of us need to get up! I'm sure her adrenals work differently than ours.  If your job starts at 11, rather than 8AM, I would expect your rhythms to be different. If you get home after 6PM, maybe you can't turn yourself off at 10. I like your shorter work hours. It gives you more time to cook!!  I didn't read every entry on this thread, but wanted to share that. KUTGW in your health search. It's very complex & it is taking us years to iron out everything!

Yeah, it seems to me people are different.  My daughter has always, from the time she was old enough to have a schedule, has always been an early riser.  She's almost always the first one up in our house.  And if not, she's second.  Or she's sick.

My Mom is a morning person also, and she's a B.  My daughter's a B and the gal I work with is a B and they all do better in the morning.  They eat more in the morning, etc etc.  Then, they turn into pumpkins at 9PM.  I'm just getting going at 9.  hehehehhehe.  OK not quite but that does seem to be about my prime time.  Unless I'm under the weather.

so it is MG

and weew...all those 25 or 50 %centers of teutonics ...they where everywere......,

So anybody else got any suggestions?

I've been following the BTD Fatigue book.  Pretty good stuff.  What is interesting is that in the "Allergy" book he recommends Ginsing for AB's for adrenal therapy, but he doesn't show it in the Fatigue book.  Is that kind of strange?

Quoted from JJR

You doing OK with the less meats being a warrior?  

I don't need much stinkin' meat...  
I eat a meal a week of good, natural, roast turkey...
A serving or three of cottage cheese per week...  
I eat more eggs than recommended, but the body seems to need that while doing this much healing.  
I eat tons of beans and rice, along with vegetables and fruit.

I am detoxing about as much as the body can handle, and supplementation is really driven by what is getting cleaned out.  I feel really different based on the toxin being removed.  For instance, I have a spacey feeling when detoxing mercury, lots of muscle / joint aches, and intestinal spasms when clearing food wastes...  Some days I get all of the symptoms at once.   

I've also been an early riser, unless forced to work really late, then would get up later, but really not feel well rested doing it.

I'd be interested in hearing anyone's knowledge about taking adrenal (glandular) supplementation.  I have a simple dessicated adrenal and liver product that seems to increase my vitality when I take it.  I don't use it daily long term, but have not been sure what is considered a reasonable and safe rhythm for its use.

I took Standard Process Adrenal, Desiccated under supervision of a practitioner, but don't remember the treatment cycle...  It seems like I took it for several months, in conjunction with Std. Process e-Poise, continuing the e-Poise after the Adrenal.

My practitioner uses Muscle Response Testing to determine the body's needs...

check 225 chronic fatigue in the encyclo

fatigue
immune
antiviral
are advised for ABs
related are
autoimmune
cancer
immunity
viral
so in all, it all comes together nicely....

Quoted from Lola

check 225 chronic fatigue in the encyclo

fatigue
immune
antiviral
are advised for ABs
related are
autoimmune
cancer
immunity
viral
so in all, it all comes together nicely....

Aaaaaah, I'll check that in there, I forgot to look at that book!  Thanks for the reminder.

Quoted from Victoria

I'd be interested in hearing anyone's knowledge about taking adrenal (glandular) supplementation.  I have a simple dessicated adrenal and liver product that seems to increase my vitality when I take it.  I don't use it daily long term, but have not been sure what is considered a reasonable and safe rhythm for its use.

My doctor has me on Drenamin and then they just told me to take some adrenal dessicated along with that.  I took two the first day and then one the second.  They say you shouldn't take the Adrenal dessicated in a prolonged use.  But the drenamin is ok or there is a product they had me on called Adrenal 80.  They change back and forth, depending on how I balance out and it seems that my adrenals are undergoing changes or something.  They're not being very consistent and they definitely need help.  

I slept until 9:22 this morning.  It felt great.  I get those emails from Body Ecology and she really pushes sleep for healing adrenals.  Among other things.  But she just sent something out about learning to take naps.  I don't nap well.  Anyone else do this?

I nap beautifully.  Any time, anywhere.  In the car, on the couch, I just fall right asleep and I will sleep until one of the urchins wakes me up.  Unless I've had too much coffee.  Then it might take me a while to calm myself.

I didn't know you weren't supposed to take adrenal supps long-term.  I've been taking them off and on, mostly on, for 10 years or so.  I've only done the Standard Process for 1 1/2 years off and on, mostly off (because of the expense).

Usually I feel like Winnie the Pooh pulling cotton puffs out of his ears.  "Huh?  I couldn't hear you because there was fluff in my ears."  (ears=head)

I have not read this whole thread yet, and I definitely will, but wanted to tell of my experience.

In my early 20s I had a long term terrifying experience that over time wiped my adrenals out. For the next 20 something years, while raising several kids- not all mine, and with additional severe stress, I could only be on my feet for a couple of hours at a time. Even then I was exhausted. When I collapsed on the couch, I often could not even whisper for a lack of energy. I was told by doctors that blood tests showed I was perfectly healthy. I did not know what was wrong with me at that time.

Years later, going through the change, fairly young thank goodness, I decided to try taking Adrenal Glandular from Natural Sources that I got at the Health Food Store. I was taking it to help me continue to make female hormones naturally in my adrenals, which happens when the ovaries cut back. I took a lot of it, and was very surprised to see that I regained the strength I had lost so many years before. I am not recommending this course without a doctor's guidance, because I later learned that it can have it's serious downsides. Maybe someone else has already discussed it. Good health to you all!

I'm seeing comments on sleep problems, and though I have to run for now, I want to tell you about what my son's psychiatrist said. My son has not been able to sleep well since he was about 10, the year we got our first computer. He says the light from the computer and other sources affects sleep. While it is good to get blue light in the morning, it is not in the evening. He recommends wearing amber glasses (orange colored) that you can get from welding supply stores- you wear them in the evening. He finds it to have a great therapeutic effect on people with bipolar disorder. My son has just begun to use them and said he gets sleepy soon after putting them on.

http://www.psycheducation.org/depression/LightDark.htm

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