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My usual soaks are with 2-3 lbs of epsom salt, there is plenty of therapeutic effect from 2-3 lbs.  If I am achey, sore mucsles or really not feeling like myself I add more, up to 6 lbs.  Please note: I have a large bath tub and it is rare that I use 6 lbs and most common when I increase it is up to 4lbs total.  

Golf if you have a big tub, you can start with 4C and you should be fine.  If you have a smaller tub start with 2C.  For ultra relaxation use some relaxing essential oil, soft music and candles.  It works for romancing the one your with also.



Thank you Frosty! I shall try it. The esalt soak too




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Yeah, strange things happen to your body when you're exhausted.

Anyway, I went up after lunch and tried to take a nap but couldn't.  I just lay there with my eyes shut for a couple of hours.  My stomach's feeling better, but my arms are still very heavy.  I can't blame the stomach thing on the salts--it just got significantly worse after the bath.  I've already been feeling iffy, maybe because of a stomach virus   or maybe because of the vitamin D I just started taking.  Nobody else has gotten the "virus", so maybe I'm feeling sick because of the D.


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ribbit... I kind of think you may be detoxing... being a momma is hard work... your whole body is over worked. If you can get a chance to just relax- take it...

As for the arms feeling heavy.. as asked DH if this happened to him... he said that his legs would feel heavy after a soak & hard class (karate). His comment was that maybe your baby is going through a growth spurt, you are lifting more than usual and in combination with the salt soak - your arms feel heavy from the work out (and whatever else happens when your arms have had a work out).

Just our opinions over here...


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Golfz--just to chime in, I've been putting the Epsom salts in my bath for years for sore muscles and relaxation at the suggestion of my chiropractor.  Sometimes, I add a few drops of essential lavender oil as it helps me relax and has other benefits.  Love the stuff.  Also, a lot more economical than expensive bath salts.  


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Golfz--just to chime in, I've been putting the Epsom salts in my bath for years for sore muscles and relaxation at the suggestion of my chiropractor.  Sometimes, I add a few drops of essential lavender oil as it helps me relax and has other benefits.  Love the stuff.  Also, a lot more economical than expensive bath salts.  


I took my 1st one last night, couldn't tell much other than my skin being softer... I put two pounds in the tub. Soaked for 10 -15 mins...




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GZ, maybe you're already so in balance that you don't need epsom salt soaking!  



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Ribbit, sorry to hear that it didn't agree with you.  First time I had one I used 1 cup but found I also got an upset stomach slightly (maybe because it helps you make more enzymes and it's a shock to the system ?).  Felt good for a few days though (detox) but had a sulphate kind of taste, didn't get headaches so it probably helped with tolerating foods and chemicals (sulphate helps you detox sulphur), and wow I felt clean like you Golfzilla.  No divots on you mate.

The next bath I had only used half a cup and felt the muscle relaxing effects with less shock to the system.  Jelly muscles!  Like after a big swim.

Just found this summary that shows how sulphate helps detox food chemicals http://www.allnaturaladvantage.com.au/Phenol%20Sensitivity.htm and epsom salt baths are a good way to get it.  I've been getting headaches really badly lately and more sensitive to salicylates, like headache after 1/4 cup watered apple juice.  So I reckon that Calcium supplement with boron is going in the bin now and it's also because I didn't have my epsom salt bath for a few weeks until tonight.  
Another place I read that taking NAC-Cysteine (high in sulphate) could help salicylate tolerance.  Cysteine is a precursor to glutathione - this is all related.  No wonder epsom salt baths help detox.

On the packet they recommend 375g on the packet for a bath, dissolved in warm water.  That's around 2 cups.  Maybe I can work up to that.  

People have been bathing in sulphur and mineral pools for many years and enjoying the therapeutic effects.     


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Just found a study on plasma levels of sulphate and magnesium before and after and much more.
http://www.mgwater.com/transdermal.shtml - Report on Absorption of magnesium sulfate (Epsom salts) across the skin

It suggests doses like Frosty does:
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The values obtained suggest that most people would find maximal benefit by bathing 2 or 3 times/ week, using 500-600g Epsom salts each time.

How did you first get into this Frosty?

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..Interestingly, both volunteers, who were > 60 years old, commented without prompting that 'rheumatic' pains had disappeared.

That's intesting.. When I researched glucosamine sulphate, that is the only type of glucosamine studies have been done on for arthritis.  It is helpful, but how much is from the sulphate not just the glucosamine?

Well next time I won't put soap in as well so I can amp it up.  Probably shouldn't put soap in - won't need to. doh!


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Ribbit, sorry to hear that it didn't agree with you.    


Maybe it did agree with me.  Maybe I need to do it more!


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I have been doing this for years for sore mucsles or when I am sick and achey.  I suggest it to clients with back acne and to my clients that are arthritic (both Osteo and RA) as well as those with Fibromyalgia.  They all report back to me favorable results.  When I started working out again 3-5 times a week, is when I started doing the Epsom soaks more regularly.  I would feel so good following, the bath, that it became a treat after I worked out or got a massage.  Not only do I feel good physically, it seems to make my mental health feel good too.  It calms me, I am sure from the relaxation I get from the ES and the Lavender EO I use as well.  Now it is truly something I look forward to, I can let myself go for 30 minutes several times a week.

Years ago, like 20 years ago, I lived in Portland Oregon.  My friends and I would go once a month to a place called Carson Hot Springs.  It is on the Washington side of the Columbia River Gorge, about an hour or a little more from Portland. It is a mineral hot springs that they have turned into a spa of sorts.  One can get a bath, wrap and massage for about $75.00.  Back then it was $40.00.  The mineral bath, wrap and massage were so healing, I looked forward to our trips up there. http://www.carsonhotspringresort.com/

In Arizona the closest thing I can find to Carson Hot Springs is a good massage, followed by an Epsom Salt soak in my own bath tub at home.   


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Beautiful words Frosty, you made me smile.   I'm sure Epsom salt sales will increase accordingly!  

Ribbit - I agree that it may be worth trying again and getting used to  


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back acne .............report back to me favorable results.


  REALLY?

Well, see.....That's very interesting because I was having a breakout* and after my bath it all started clearing up, but I didn't put the two together because I'd also drunk a bunch of pineapple juice and I know pineapple juice helps decrease the inflammation under the bumps.

Oh, yes, I shall do the bath again.  

*Last Sunday I went to an event and was delighted to see a dish there that's an avoid for me but that I love, so I decided to take just a tidbit.  Often this particular dish has pimentos in it (for those who don't know I am VERY allergic to plants in the nightshade family and one of the things they cause for me is cyst-like acne), but because it didn't have pimentos, I thought I could get away with it.  I took one bite and my mouth started burning and I looked at it very closely and thought I could see tell-tale signs of cayenne pepper.  I wasn't happy.  I decided that I would practice being a B and put my mind over the matter and NO REACT.  I warned DH (because I get mean when I've had a nightshade) that I'd been exposed but that I was NOT GOING TO REACT (even as my skin began to bubble up in its typical reaction).  That is when I took the bath, and things began to simmer back down.

I do believe the bath helped take those nightshade toxins and wash them down the drain.

Maybe.

At any rate, I'm gonna do it again!

Thanks so much, all y'all!


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So I reckon that Calcium supplement with boron is going in the bin now...
Did you ever think of contacting the company & report/discuss the reaction you had to it? Most companies will replace a product you can't use, with something you can, as they are keen to keep your custom...
Great to hear all the stories on epsom salt baths!!
Glad you feel to continue Ribbit & that it had a good effect on your skin!!
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Do epsom salts detox the liver?  I mean soaking in them, not drinking them.


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I wasn't trying to be funny.   There are directions for drinking them on the package.


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This is not your question, Ribbit, but I was just remembering how Dr. D has mentioned liver detox with castor oil-soaked flannel cloth laid on the right side and covered with hot water bottle or heating pad.



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Do epsom salts detox the liver?  I mean soaking in them, not drinking them.

I have heard that drinking Epsom salts is part of a liver cleanse...  
I really need to keep a log of beneficial techniques to refer to exactly, since I can't remember exactly what or why...

Since the skin is the largest organ, detoxing it will help reduce the load on the liver / kidneys, even if it doesn't specifically detox them.


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I found this online regarding liver cleanse:

http://www.the-natural-path.com/liver-cleanse.html

As ABJoe says, they suggest using the Epsom Salts orally.

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One day, Andy......One day.  I'm breastfeeding a baby and can't do anything that will affect her.


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GZ, maybe you're already so in balance that you don't need epsom salt soaking!  


I don't know I' going to give it a few more and see if I am able to feel anything




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Victoria, you mentioned castor oil and got me thinking about my dad's castor oil story.
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Well, I did another salt bath tonight.  I didn't have any negative reaction this time.  My skin feels like it's healing nicely and the bumps are shrinking.  Hurray!


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Absolutely - the little one indeed must come first (I had forgotten you were breastfeeding)  

Glad this further bath experience was nicer than the first one.

I had a similar experience to you the first Epsom bath I took - legs like jelly, a bit dizzy and on the toilet about 20 minutes later!  Had another one last night and it was much nicer.  Maybe it's a bit of a detox response the first time round?

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Did you ever think of contacting the company & report/discuss the reaction you had to it? Most companies will replace a product you can't use, with something you can, as they are keen to keep your custom...
Great to hear all the stories on epsom salt baths!!
Glad you feel to continue Ribbit & that it had a good effect on your skin!!


Hi Possum,
Yep I rang them up and said I'd had a bad stomach reaction to it, they asked what kind?  It's too generalised.  I said that I'd read on the internet that boric acid is banned in some countries from being in supplements and asked if they were going to get rid of it.  She said "it wouldn't be in there if it was bad for you, r&d etc, I take it myself.  The boron is needed to help get the calcium into your bones..."

Now I find out it could be the horsetail in it as well, that can also be bad for people with kidney problems.  

So I ended up giving the bottle to an O type friend who can use it.  I got a more basic one, it's hard though to find Calcium citrate not carbonate though (not enough stomach acid to digest for us As). You live and learn, will research any supplements fully before going shopping now.  


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