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Golfzilla
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What are your thoughts on getting my HDL #'s up"
My total cholesterol is 116
HDL is 41
LDL is 65
triglycerides is 52

Thanks in advance




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Cod Liver oil maybe??? Your ratio is pretty darn good and I don't think you have to worry about anything there.  I could be wrong though.


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Cod Liver oil maybe??? Your ratio is pretty darn good and I don't think you have to worry about anything there.  I could be wrong though.


The recommended is >40 which it is but barely. It is on the low side and I would like to see it at 50.

Can I put dark chocloate in cod liver oil




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I can't relate.  I love the flavor.  Maybe some lemon??  They make them with flavors.  I get the Nordic naturals.  Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

I could eat that all day long.  Well, OK, that wouldn't be good.  But I do love the flavor.  You'd be surprised at how you get used to something after eating it.  But I know that some foods are just hard for certain people to like.  I'm not sure what mine is yet though. hehehehhehhehhee  But I'm pretty sure I'll run into it someday.  Or I just forgot something because I haven't ate it in a while.  I'm not overly fond of eggplant.  Peas used to make me gag.  But I like them now.  That reminds me, I gotta make some split pea soup!


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I can't relate.  I love the flavor.  Maybe some lemon??  They make them with flavors.  I get the Nordic naturals.  Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

I could eat that all day long.  Well, OK, that wouldn't be good.  But I do love the flavor.  You'd be surprised at how you get used to something after eating it.  But I know that some foods are just hard for certain people to like.  I'm not sure what mine is yet though. hehehehhehhehhee  But I'm pretty sure I'll run into it someday.  Or I just forgot something because I haven't ate it in a while.  I'm not overly fond of eggplant.  Peas used to make me gag.  But I like them now.  That reminds me, I gotta make some split pea soup!


Split peas soup sounds delicious ~ enjoy!




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I wouldn't worry just yet.

Your total chol is only 116 and the trigs and LDL are extemely low.

41/116 is pretty good. You might wait to see what the numbers look like in 6 months, having been off lipitor.

In the meantime your best bet is to stick to the diet and get plenty of exercise, great for a Hunter's HDL.
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I don't see any reason you couldn't take cod liver oil in capsules.  Unless gelatin is bad for your Swami GTD.



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I wouldn't worry just yet.

Your total chol is only 116 and the trigs and LDL are extemely low.

41/116 is pretty good. You might wait to see what the numbers look like in 6 months, having been off lipitor.

In the meantime your best bet is to stick to the diet and get plenty of exercise, great for a Hunter's HDL.


Thanks Lloyd! I think I remember reading a side effect of Lipitor was that it also lowered HDL..?




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I don't see any reason you couldn't take cod liver oil in capsules.  Unless gelatin is bad for your Swami GTD.


I'm taking the NAP Fish Oil Formula for Hunters, will that achieve the same results




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We're all different, so we respond to different things, but here's what helped me.  I ate 2 omega-3 rich eggs every morning for breakfast and then a meat protein source for lunch and dinner every day (beef for at least one of those meals for the iron), while cutting out all grains except rice, which means also cutting out sugar, except what was in my dark chocolate.  I also started eating lots of pumpkin seeds roasted in olive oil, as well as walnuts and almonds.

Exercise is also supposed to raise HDL levels, but at that time my doc had advised me not to exercise any more than I felt like because of my anemia, so except for occasional walking through the neighborhood with a friend I didn't worry about that aspect of it.  I liked my doc better back then, when she told me not to diet or exercise any more than I felt like, but just to be gentle and kind to my body and let it heal.  She's changed her tune since I've improved    




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I'm taking the NAP Fish Oil Formula for Hunters, will that achieve the same results


I don't know the answer to that question.  Maybe one of the other admin. team?  



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We're all different, so we respond to different things, but here's what helped me.  I ate 2 omega-3 rich eggs every morning for breakfast and then a meat protein source for lunch and dinner every day (beef for at least one of those meals for the iron), while cutting out all grains except rice, which means also cutting out sugar, except what was in my dark chocolate.  I also started eating lots of pumpkin seeds roasted in olive oil, as well as walnuts and almonds.

Exercise is also supposed to raise HDL levels, but at that time my doc had advised me not to exercise any more than I felt like because of my anemia, so except for occasional walking through the neighborhood with a friend I didn't worry about that aspect of it.  I liked my doc better back then, when she told me not to diet or exercise any more than I felt like, but just to be gentle and kind to my body and let it heal.  She's changed her tune since I've improved    


I just got eggs back with SX so am getting use to them again. I am eating plenty of red meat. Other than some fruit I use no sweetners of any kind, my nut mix is pumpkin seeds, walnuts, pecans, and almonds.

With the exception of my recent bronchitis I work out at least 4-5 times a week, 30 mins cardio & 30 mins weights.

Glad to hear you are improving, keep fighting the good fight




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I agree with Lloyd, with a total Cholesterol that low, you'd expect a low HDL.  Once you're off the Lipitor it should go up.  


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I agree with Lloyd, with a total Cholesterol that low, you'd expect a low HDL.  Once you're off the Lipitor it should go up.  


Morning Melissa!
I suspect this to be so. I do think I remember reading something about Lipitor's effects lowering not only LDL but HDL too...

Week three without Nexium & day two without Lipitor And if this monsoon stops I wil get to play 18 on Sat & Sun




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Haven't you JUST started the diet? I would think that a few weeks or months of healthy-for-you eating should get all of your lab numbers into healthy ranges, without having to do anything special.


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Haven't you JUST started the diet? I would think that a few weeks or months of healthy-for-you eating should get all of your lab numbers into healthy ranges, without having to do anything special.


Morning! Things being all relative yes, I began in late Oct '09... My chemistry is actually quite good and I'm greatful for that but now I'm seeking to tweek. And I know it can be accomplished




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Golf, I also recall a blog by Dr. D'Adamo saying that cholesterol lowering medications indiscriminately take fats from your system.  

While looking for Dr. D's blog, I found an "I'm surprised but also not surprised" blog by Dr. Greenfield:

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2008/11/11/the-great-crestor-hype-1?blog=14

Ask your doctor how long the effects of the cholesterol lowering medications will continue before your number reflect where you are right now.  
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Golf, I also recall a blog by Dr. D'Adamo saying that cholesterol lowering medications indiscriminately take fats from your system.  

While looking for Dr. D's blog, I found an "I'm surprised but also not surprised" blog by Dr. Greenfield:

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2008/11/11/the-great-crestor-hype-1?blog=14

Ask your doctor how long the effects of the cholesterol lowering medications will continue before your number reflect where you are right now.  


Interesting Viki, thanks! I did ask her and she said it was different for different people. So I made an appointment for 90 days from now for a recheck. As always, time will tell




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Linseed and/or ghee might help!
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Linseed and/or ghee might help!


I have got to try the Ghee you all talk about. I have 1-2 tbls ground linseed/flax daily. Thanks!
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You can make your own ghee easily from unsalted butter - silence means it is done!

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You can make your own ghee easily from unsalted butter - silence means it is done!

http://tinyurl.com/9e7zsc


Thanks Vicki!
Does it have to be filtered as you pour it into the jars?

I am assuming the "slience means it is done" indicates it makes a noise while it is cooking and stops when done?

Does it have to be refrigerated?
Cheers!




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I have got to try the Ghee you all talk about. I have 1-2 tbls ground linseed/flax daily. Thanks!
How was your weekend?

It is so easy that you'll wonder why you even put it off...  

I was using a 4" sieve for the strainer, but I kept spilling a bit when I poured it out of the pan, so I got an 8" sieve from Wal-mart and line it with a napkin or paper towel and no more spills...


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Thanks Vicki!
Does it have to be filtered as you pour it into the jars?

I am assuming the "slience means it is done" indicates it makes a noise while it is cooking and stops when done?

Does it have to be refrigerated?
Cheers!

GZ,
Since I just posted while you were...

Yes, you will filter out all of the sediment.

Yes, it bubbles and gurggles while it is boiling the water out of the butterfat.

When made properly, and not contaminated by using a dirty utensil, etc., storing covered without refrigeration is fine for six months to a year.

Happy "Gheeing"



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It is so easy that you'll wonder why you even put it off...  

I was using a 4" sieve for the strainer, but I kept spilling a bit when I poured it out of the pan, so I got an 8" sieve from Wal-mart and line it with a napkin or paper towel and no more spills...


Great idea ABJ, thanks!




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