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Vista
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Thanks for your answer Symbi.

I have already done a Lewis test from blood but in Sweden it is impossible to do a Lewis test from saliva. I have contacted every possible lab and asked a lot of different people. My results from the Lewis blood test was Lewis double negative.  


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Hi Vista,
No worries, you're welcome!  I hope Lola sees your post, she has lots of links about everything and she's a DLN herself.  I think you can consider your self a nonnie from what I've read.  Maybe a search of this website could be helpful.

It must have been annoying to not get a definite answer on whether you're a nonnie or not!

Hope you can get the IAP info to help too.  It's good to have an annual checkup blood test anyway and that's part of the standard tests.


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Symbi,

Reading this thread sheds some light on what could possibly have happened to me last year when I fasted for a week to detoxify myself. Actually my fasting was not properly done and I ate many non-compliant nuts and stuff to fight the hunger pangs (not knowing BTD at the time). I managed to not feel much hunger in the last three days or so, and indeed felt more energy.

But I wonder if that did any "permanent" damage to my stomach lining. Actually I had acid reflux before the fasting and during and after the fasting it seemed to have gone away (maybe due to the alkaline "Master Lemonade" with cayenne pepper). But it came back again a month or so later....

Are there any nonnies out there who have fasted and can share your experience?


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Thanks for your answer Symbi.

I have already done a Lewis test from blood but in Sweden it is impossible to do a Lewis test from saliva. I have contacted every possible lab and asked a lot of different people. My results from the Lewis blood test was Lewis double negative.  


Vista,
Can you order a secretor test kit from NAP? I did and mailed back the saliva via international courrier mail. I'm sure you can do that from Sweden as well.
Good luck!


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Ah Possum!  Just saw your answer to my question on making nut butter.  Thanks for that great description, and especially the trick with the electric mixer!  (Too bad I just sent my mixer off with my daughter last week!)  



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Are there any nonnies out there who have fasted and can share your experience?


the closest I get to fast is following the liver cleanse described in the GTD book

fruit, fresh salad, olive oil, lemon juice all day.....

that s as far as I get with fasting, anything more drastic simply feels wrong to me


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I have found some testresult done on me for P-phosphatase, alkaline. Is that something that can indicate secretor status? My test result for P-phosphatase, alkaline was 2,2.


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don t you have a comparative number?
to see the difference in your results


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My Alkaline Phosphatase is at 67.
The normal range is between 13-113.
Hopefully, I'm a Secretor.


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Hi Lisalea,
Os and Bs have the highest levels, so it may be difficult to tell for your blood type.  May be best to have the test to be sure, to be sure!

Vista - how does your result compare to the lab reference range?  We can't tell what 2,2 means?


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I thank-you for the info Symbi.


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I am not sure if the test is the same as the IAP test but as I have read P=plasma so P-phosphatase alkaline stands for plasma phosphatase alkaline levels according to the Swedish test explanations. My test result for P-phosphatase, alkaline was 2,2 and the test reference values are 0,8-4.6 ukat/L. The thing I wonder about is if maybe Intestinal Alkaline Phosphatase would be the same as P-phosphatase alkaline levels in my test report.


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Ah Possum!  Just saw your answer to my question on making nut butter.  Thanks for that great description, and especially the trick with the electric mixer!  (Too bad I just sent my mixer off with my daughter last week!)  
Ha ha just saw your reply here... Too bad you sent your mixer away - I think you could use a hand mixer... It would give you good arm work outs, especially if you can alternate arms...

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those levels look fine to me.....IAP


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The serum alkaline phosphatase level as reported on a standard blood chemistry test is not going to give you the level of IAP. The value reported on the lab report is a quantitation of the total which includes all of the fractions such as liver, bone, brain, intestinal and others.

The only way you can know the IAP level is by fractionation. This is altogether a different test from the serum alkaline phosphatase that is reported on a standard lab test.


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The serum alkaline phosphatase level as reported on a standard blood chemistry test is not going to give you the level of IAP. The value reported on the lab report is a quantitation of the total which includes all of the fractions such as liver, bone, brain, intestinal and others.

The only way you can know the IAP level is by fractionation. This is altogether a different test from the serum alkaline phosphatase that is reported on a standard lab test.


So P-phosphatase alkaline levels as I wrote about in my earlier post is not the same as IAP? I have tried to understand from reading about different tests but there seems to be P-(plasma) alkaline phosphatase, S-(serum) alkaline phosphatase and then also intestinal alkaline phosphatase?

Is IAP a complicated and expensive test for the medical services to perform, something that is only tested for if theres a need for it?


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Is IAP a complicated and expensive test for the medical services to perform, something that is only tested for if theres a need for it?


Yes, the different sources of alkaline phosphatase or the isoenzymes as they are often called are separated by electrophoresis. And it is not a test that would be routinely performed by the lab unless the total serum or plasma alkaline phosphatase shows a markedly elevated level. In that case they would need to know where the problem is such as with the liver, bones, intestines or other sources of this enzyme.


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Yes, the different sources of alkaline phosphatase or the isoenzymes as they are often called are separated by electrophoresis. And it is not a test that would be routinely performed by the lab unless the total serum or plasma alkaline phosphatase shows a markedly elevated level. In that case they would need to know where the problem is such as with the liver, bones, intestines or other sources of this enzyme.


Thanks Captain_Janeway for your thorough answer to my question!  


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