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san j
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I seem to remember reading that the four different blood groups have different "norms" for cholesterol readings, e.g., that type O can more easilly tolerate a higher "bad" cholesterol reading than an A can. Could someone direct me to that source, please? I'm away from my library at the moment and would prefer, therefore, to find it online/here. Thanks!


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Might look here. Hope the link works if not let me know I will search again.


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Thanks! I've looked over this material, but I was wondering about norms, i.e., are higher normal values permitted for O than for A? Can A and O both have slightly elevated cholesterol, while this is still acceptable for the O but "too high" for the A, for obvious reasons? I think I may have read about this in the Encyclopedia, not sure.

Incidentally AndreaAWsec: Thanks for the google link. Most of the links therein, however, came up blank for me. Don't know why

An O friend has slightly high cholesterol, and his MD wants to put him on Lipitor. So I thought I'd investigate this angle and (of course) counsel compliance to the O diet, as usual.


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have him look into red yeast rice


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Yes, Red Yeast Rice, Flush-Free Niacin, oat bran, exercise and avoiding simple carbs should all help some.

Note that Red Yeast Rice contains statins and can lead to the same complications as Lipitor.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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well have you ever concidered that cholesterol is NOT dangerous ???

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm


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Hi, friends:

As a matter of fact, I've put some hours into the study of this matter since last I posted. This guy's so-called high cholesterol is counterbalanced by "abnormally" high HDL ("good" cholesterol). He's at virtually no risk for coronary heart disease. In fact the medical literature pegs him for extraordinary longevity.

Oh, yes: I also pinpointed where I'd seen Peter's assigning somewhat different cholesterol levels as norms for the different bloodgroups: In his book, Cardiovascular Disease: Fight it with the Bloodtype Diet, pages 6 through 10: The bloodtype-specific risk profile/quizzes. I would have blogged on it, but there was an omission, perhaps, because Peter didn't include a value for O's LDL norm. It would seem that either O's LDL reading is not a risk factor, OR that the omission was an oversight. Not wanting to embarrass the good doctor, I didn't blog on this...yet.

I love the input you've all shared. I picked up tons of information yesterday, and I hope to share it with you soon.


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Thanks again, Lola. It turns out there's this high HDL familial "syndrome" which is a good thing to have for longevity. The cardiology literature on it says "virtually no coronary heart disease risk", all other factors confirming, of course.

But then there's some really abnormal disease state with ridiculously high (180,for example) HDL, which is another story. You can look the latter up under "Hyperalphalipoproteinemia". (Spell-check is going )

If you've got excellent HDL (his is 80), you want to look at it in a ratio with respect to the Total Cholesterol reading. If it's under 3.5:1 (Total Cholesterol:HDL) your coronary disease risk from cholesterol-atherosclerosis factors is very low. My friend's ratio is 3.1:1.  He's in the clear. No Lipitor for him!   


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well have you ever concidered that cholesterol is NOT dangerous ???

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm


Oh, and Henriette: THANKS for this link. I was having the same sense the more I read about cholesterol. Going into the liver and disrupting the normal biosynthesis of this normal substance, cholesterol, is what the statins do. But, as you can guess, alot of baby goes down the drain with that bathwater, especially CoQ10 synthesis. So the cardiac benefits can be nullified, in effect. Plus you lose the real benefits of cholesterol in the brain, liver, and sex hormones.

This particular man needs to baby his liver. And statin drugs come with hepatic risks far more serious than the 2 points of LDL the doctor was fussing over.

BTW, Henriette: You're an Explorer? Weren't you upset about that at some point (last year and then recategorized yourself as a Nomad? My fault. I've been a stranger to the Forums...



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Cholesterol is the precursor to a number of hormones manufactured in the body.  

I would be worried that cutting cholesterol intake would be like shutting down the entire endocrine system.  Not a health creating option, but the patient might die slower.  


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well have you ever concidered that cholesterol is NOT dangerous ???

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm

Unfortunately, if you want to buy life insurance, you'll have to pay a lot more if you have a risk factor such as high cholesterol.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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we need to get all insurance agents IFHI certified!!!


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BTW, Henriette: You're an Explorer? Weren't you upset about that at some point (last year and then recategorized yourself as a Nomad? My fault. I've been a stranger to the Forums...


according to the book I am Nomad- but according to Swami I am a not very strong Explorer( 37 %)
- but hey Ive got full fat dairy, eggs and beef/veal as superfood, and chocolate as diamond- so NO complaining here- I just follow my Henriette diet  


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NO complaining here- I just follow my Henriette diet  


And that, my friends, is what it's all about! The D'Adamo guidelines are excellent, but the fine tuning is an individual matter !



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san j, What no SWAMI for you?


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SAN J - I would strongly advice you to use the money on swami- personally I wouldnt follow GTD today IF I havent got my personal diet


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