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hi folks ...
tried to find out if meat really makes me fat as described in lr4yt.. but nope...the carbs. are da culprit...baaa... ....

made some days...even more then 14 days that I didn't ate any meat... and now I really craved lamb meat... and I devored a super piece of lamb meat with loads of garlic and onions and herbes de provence.....I felt that I
deserved it..needed it... and yup...some minutes after (cat devorations & lioness-like ) I feel great...good,  very peaceful... .....
ron-ron-ron....before...merely on my nerves...yech..angry..all about nervousity....tsk..tskk.....

what would I expect more ....give me a piece of lamb and I am the happiest of that mundo.... doesn't that sound nomade-wise...
even fish can't give me that super-duper feeling.....A2B non..= where is that lill blo.. O to be found ....


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well Isa you could be some kind of special explorer or nomad -both gets meat.
On my swami I have 3 serving red meat and 4 poultry
as well as 5 fish ( well I dont think Ill go there

Yesterday I went to a very nice ladies lunch
most of the food was high grain based- with very little fat and protein.
My protein soruces were
1 prawn
2 slices proscuitti ham
2 tiny balls of mozzarella - rest of it was lettuce, rice, ricepaper, some veggies (etc= cake with raspberry  )
and I WAS starving when I came home
I need soem kind f good protein at least 3 times a day

maybe if you were swamied with the GTD you would get a nice ISAdiet
- just like I got a Henriettediet  


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sweety half of mine beloved Hettilein...I was *swamied* some years ago.. and it showed me merely..go for the nomad diet... I need meat..I need protein....I need toughy proteins, instead of carbs..with carbs I feel sluggish and bad... .... only ...puky-puke...coz the output I guess today it was false.. I am not a warrior...my elder sis might be one.. but not me..she's an AB sechi...with traces of a don't ask me
she is that weird.... ...
yep... nomadexplorior...*explomade* for me...  here it explains the A2 ...some of da O's bumped in former lifes ...my latest measurements were wrong...so far...
meeps..again...but thanx for your sustain... helped me a lot  ...


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Isa,

I can go from feeling very tired or drawn to very peppy by eating or drinking one thing that I needed at that moment...  Sometimes I can walk into the kitchen and be pulled right to what I need to make me feel better.

As a Warrior, I usually don't need much meat - only about 1 serving per week...
The only abnormality to the diet I have noticed is that I sometimes need some liver.  Since I can only get beef or chicken liver, I usually choose chicken liver due to the grower promise that there are no hormones, etc., used in the growing...  I don't know how or where the beef was grown.

My normal protein sources are fish, eggs, cottage cheese, walnuts, beans and peanuts/peanut butter...  


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AB Joe, thank you for your nice explanation. Fish doest' do the same effect on me than lamb does....I feel extremely well after havin eaten it; energized and yep liver is similar...especially calf liver.... .....

I think it's all about bloodsugar... I guess another attack of low bloodsugar and protein has a complete other issue on my system than carbs


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My little AB thinks the same thing about lamb, Isa.  She craves it.  She gets so excited when I make lamb (especially a leg).  She asks to gnaw on the bone.  She likes the marrow.  She really likes the fat too.  I'm kind of   about fat (although I like gravy), but she LOVES the fat.  I'll let her eat a little if I know it's hormone-free.  She's so skinny...maybe she needs more carbs!  She eats a lot of rice and a lot of spelt and oats, but she's still very skinny.


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My normal protein sources are fish, eggs, cottage cheese, walnuts, beans and peanuts/peanut butter...  


Pretty much mine too. I have turkey 1-2 times a week usually.

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Wow, there are so many things I'd like to say to this thread.  Henriette, that's weird because my swami has me eating 4 helpings of red meat.  Interesting.

Ribbit, I have tried to eat GOBS of good grains to help put on weight, and it has done zilcho.  I swear some nights I will eat two huge bowls of rice, oats or quinoa with nuts and such.  I mean heavy bowls.  And I had been doing this for months now.  And still, no weight gain.  I have no clue what will do it for me.  I feel like my guts keep getting better and better, and maybe that will keep some weight on me.  I don't know.  But I stay at 128 so consistently, it's almost weird.  I'll be like 126 or so in the morning, go to bed I'm around 129 and that's that. I might hit 130 if I really tied on the grain that night.  But I end up being what I always am.  Maybe I'm not meant to be heavier.  I'm going to see if eating some Lamb helps.  Because it's now a swami superfood.  I might have to give it a little help with some HCL or digest gold before hand, but I've had litle bits here and there lately.  I love the fat too.  On turkey I CRAVE the dark meat and the fat.  I always worry because my cholesterol is high, but I don't eat a whole lot of meat, so when I eat it, I like to eat the greasy stuff.  I'm not sure if that's good or bad, but I marked the "elevated cholesterol" part on my swami and it wants me to eat 4 helpings of red meat a week, including beef or calf liver.  

Isa, my Mom says Lamb is like heaven to her too.  She's a B.  She says she can tell it's like medicine to her.  

I don't know how anyone gets away with not eating protein at every meal.  You Warriors are like WOW!  I get the shakes if  I don't have protein at each meal.  My Doctor says protein protects you if you have metal toxicity too.

Anyways.  Sorry to bend all of your ears but I found it interesting.


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confrre ABNw.---- so it seems to me... and that made me think that I've muchmore nomade-traces in my blood than anything else ....btw... I never argued that you were a teacher ....sorry.... ......gulp...slurp it down all the tender lamb meat you will meet in futur ...rrrrrr.... turkey is nearly flat in texture... but lamb makes ...   ...= .....yyyyuuummmy...ly...fitting in all shapements ......... ... perhaps coz of the CLA...


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Well, the weird thing is I think the teacher diet actually helped me.  Because I definitely have teacher guts.  And like ribbit says, I definitely have a teacher jaw.  

But yeah, hopefully the lamb will sit well with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'd love to try some goat too.


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I'm an enigma to myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Is that the proper use of that word?

I don't know if I'm in denial, just eternally confused.  Hehehehehe  


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how sweet........"I am and I have* are only conceptual thoughts.... it's neither nor ...so it permits yourself  to hopple around where you need to become more mature ..... no worry dearle...you'll find *it* soon....
this is the endeffect being an AB...once you have A-reactions...and then B-reactions.... that makes the world muchmore colourful ..........


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Well, I agree.  But I call it being sanctified.  


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if it won't become sanctimonious....ok I can agree .... b u t then......... .....


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Isa  If I dont eat meat , beneficial meat like turkey or lamb, I notice that I feel less energy.... Years agooo, when i was 20 I ate red meat and my digestion was so bad...When I started to eat like Live Right I was amazing about that I could eat lamb and my digestion was very good...
Now I usually eat lamb once a week , andd turkey or fish or eggs every day, lots of aminoacids justamente good for us noni...


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justamente very good for us .........
sometimes devoring a piece of meat....y u m m y .....
but yep for me no horse,nor beef.....can't go for em if not my reactions might be ... ....


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The BTD and GTD have done so much for me, but one very important thing it has done is teach me about turkey and lamb for AB's.  When I read in LRFYT that lamb and turkey were beneficial, I started to eat it more regularly.  Dark meat turkey and lamb have been the two most important foods to keep my mind and body happy! The other proteins that have helped me are eggs, sardines, and salmon.  Nothing compares to lamb and turkey at least three times/week for me! I wonder why lamb as a red meat is easier to digest for A's and AB's?  Could it be the feed for sheep is different than cows or maybe the physical structure of a lamb?  
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sorry AB-chen NW... forgot ...return to sender =      

turkey..dark turkey meat = fine for your tryptophane issues ......
meant here is... moody restorages =tryptophane  is a builder of serotonins....
dito lamb but here merely the CLA might be da culprit...factor ..trigger
but here meant in a super bene way .... perhaps a nomad(e) issue....
I feel and think that I am a nomad(e)=feminin...but with huge traces of an explorer... due to my toughy problems with chemical bombes....+ - ....here no tolerance for me...or getting justamente the complete oposit results than wished or prevued... ...
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ok...will test myselve today ...thanx for the reminder Lola .....


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your low IAP levels for sure!
Lola, could you help me with sources about this?
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what would I expect more ....give me a piece of lamb and I am the happiest of that mundo.... doesn't that sound nomade-wise...
Same here! Nomatherer?



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Do you eat much oil or fat with either the meat or the rice?  How much do you do use?  Distributing my concentrated protein (beast, bird, or fish) with ghee, a suitable spice, and lots of veggies, all cut up is has helped me loose weight.

Now, I know that you are going in the opposite direction - to build active tissue mass not to cut down the inactive tissue.  The unusual point is that, although I have lost fat, there has been no deterioration in my muscle level.  With my almost corpse-like activity level, that is something to note.  When I lost 120 lbs in the nineties, the muscle loss I experienced with my weight loss was noticeable in my thighs.

I think that ghee or one of the healthy oils cooked with your concentrated protein will help your health.


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..the real question of mine should have been
A2Bnonni Explorer and meats..... when we do convert it into fatcells on our body (onto ) and when it might be a real beneficial .....especially when nearly all carbs might be hell .... ok please tell me in the next few days that I am a mis-spelled-viewed  nohter .........


ahem... little to my new intp-O-nonnie-explo-bro...sorry dearle but I am more then persuated that the booklets of Louise Hay would work wonders for you....get for pic-settelings... work with your immagination
and settle for weeks..months and your subconcsient mind will do for your
needs... but please evitate to get concerned with other peeps issuse... here we need to protect us...!! .... and yep of course do we need exercise....


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.  Nothing compares to lamb and turkey at least three times/week for me! I wonder why lamb as a red meat is easier to digest for A's and AB's?  Could it be the feed for sheep is different than cows or maybe the physical structure of a lamb?  


Wait..you get lamb and you're a Warrior?   How can that be? Unless it's the B thing. It's elements of the BTD and the GTD..never mind I answered my own question..    
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I actually eat lamb just 1/per week and turkey 1/per week....give or take a few servings.
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My husband an A1+ non sec has lamb and mutton as neutral in his Swami thifty Warrior lists (only once a week though).  On the other hand I am a Swami receptor warrior (A2+) and I have been given no access to red meats at all. !!




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Cristina, may I ask you to confirm that those two happy smilies ending your post mean that you are quite ok with not eating red meat at all ?

I'm really curious about it.

I'm an A and, as I already said in your swami thread, I don't feel I'd be able to eat meat only very occasionally, if ever.

Swami makes an Explorer out of me. A "small" Explorer though: only 40%. This means, I suppose, that any change in the data I'd input could send me back to another GT. Would probably be Warrior, then my large shares of meat (red meat and poultry 3 servings /week each) would disappear.

I think that if you feel satisfied with an almost vegetarian diet, it means that swami "guessed" you correctly, like it guessed ME rightly by allowing more meat to me.

I'm asking this because, from my point of view, it is difficult to understand how it is possible to be satisfied with a vegetarian diet. But my point of view is, I assume, very much influenced by my body's needs...

I ask this question to the other Warriors too, of course.


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I do not miss meat at all, even when I could eat it because I did not know any better, I did not eat much of it.  Could it be the fact that when I was a very young child I nearly choked by sucking a small piece of steak.  It got stuck on my throat, I was gasping for air,  and while everyone was screaming around me, one of my aunts put her fingers down my throat and somehow pull it out!! or so the story goes in the family ...  Or maybe is my genes that know better than me and try to stop me from doing too much damage.  mmmm, but no, I have never acquire that taste ..  

I eat fish, but I cannot eat too much of it either.  I eat eggs, but do not 'love' them as such, the same goes with cheese.  In other words it is not hard for me to be moderate with all these.  Ahh, my greens, I do not mind my greens, the salad types in summer and steamed ones in winter, but strugle to reach my portions sometimes.    

To think of it, if it was left to my taste, I think I could happily live on rice, lentils, some beans,  fruits and nuts.  I think that makes me a natural Warrior or Teacher?  




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I'm also satisfied with very little meat in my diet.  As a high school student, I tried the Atkins diet for a year or two and it never helped to lose weight or make my skin glow. I was eating like an O Hunter for many years and all I did was gain weight and feel lousy.  Now that I've started only eating lamb and turkey a couple times/week, I notice the difference in myself and my true physical, mental, and emotional self is feeling more like me.
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Lamb is neutral for me on SWAMI, Mayflours.


NOOOOOOO!   This is so unfair ...( hardy, har, har...Mayflours    )  
Must be a nonnie thing..  CLA Isa?       (well, I can have veal once a week..whoopie)

Warrior sista Sharon, wait till you reach my age. Menopause is evil. Evil I tell you..!! EVIL!  
The same food that made me drop ten lbs in a month is making me gain weight now.!! You have no idea what screwed up and lowering hormones can do.. (like increase cholesterol!)
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Thanks for your replies, chres Guerrires.
It is interesting.

Actually I don't really know why I think so much about this question of meat.

For years I've wished I could be a vegetarian, out of ethic grounds and out of environmental ones too, but I never became one even if I ate meat only twice a week. I believe it's time for me to put an end to this self questioning, aknowledge I need meat on a regular basis and stop feeling guilty about it. Meat and poultry toghether will be in my plate three times a week, fish two times, and soy or ricotta or paneer the two remaining days (I don't eat beans).



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Yes, you!  

Do you eat much oil or fat with either the meat or the rice?  How much do you do use?  Distributing my concentrated protein (beast, bird, or fish) with ghee, a suitable spice, and lots of veggies, all cut up is has helped me loose weight.

Now, I know that you are going in the opposite direction - to build active tissue mass not to cut down the inactive tissue.  The unusual point is that, although I have lost fat, there has been no deterioration in my muscle level.  With my almost corpse-like activity level, that is something to note.  When I lost 120 lbs in the nineties, the muscle loss I experienced with my weight loss was noticeable in my thighs.


I think that ghee or one of the healthy oils cooked with your concentrated protein will help your health.


I'm not really quite sure what your question is, but I do eat fat.  I typically have some kind of fat with every meal.  Either coconut oil, ghee, or olive.  Besides what the meat may have in it.  If I have meat.  If I eat beans I typically add some cheese.  My system is kind of weird, I feel like I need meat, but if I eat too much, it's no good.  I have to keep my portions smaller.  Like if I go to a restaurant and eat all they gave me, I'd go into shock practically.  Or like a choma, yet my heart rate goes up to 100 trying to digest my food.  Now that may be more of a function of the imbalance of flora that I'm trying to get back in line.  It's getting there, but has some work to go.

But as far as fats go, I eat a little more than recommended on swami and I still dropped cholesterol by 40 points.  And my good cholesterol is always really high.  And oh yeah, I take a teaspoon of cod liver oil every day.  There are times where I just crave fats.  I have to restrain myself.  

And yes, I eat grains.  I think they help keep some weight on me.  I think it may be that I'm just meant to be skinny.  I always growing up.  I would've like to think I was stocky, because I was a football player and wrestler and of course a guy wanting to be as tough as everyone else.  But everyone that knows me tells me I was always thin.  I'm probably a little thinner than I should be, but at this point all I can figure is my gut flora still have some balancing to go, and I don't lift weights any longer and my excercise consists of picking up kids and changing them and playing with them at the daycare I work at.  Which is something, but nothing super heavy muscle building.  

I could probably eat fish every day of the week.  I LOVE the dark meat on turkey which probably means like you said Isa, or whatever you're calling yourself now, I'm craving the seretonin.  I take tryptophan as a supplement.  I will eat plantains every once in a while took, but they're pretty sugary.  I crave the skin too.  On fish and turkey.  If I had just those two things for my protein intake, I'd probably be fine.  But lamb is still not so good for me.  And beans are good sometimes, sometimes kind of heavy.  Soybeans always digest well.  Eggs are great for me and cheese is good, in smaller amounts.  I don't do yoghurt any longer or kefir.  Just doesn't do well.  Probably if I just had tiny bits mixed in with something else it'd be OK.  

So my B doesn't speak up very much when eating meets.  Except that I turkey seems really good.  Which really could be an A thing also.  My system really is strange.  I've been eating tomatoes lately and they seem to be good for me.  

Would I benefit from getting lewis tested for my A?  and how do I do that?  And how would it help me?


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Lewis testing requires a blood test and will usually confirm your secretor status!

I don't know if it is possible that you could be a Lewis Double negative. LDN is rare but has wide ranging repercussions.  It is somewhat like being a extra strength non-secretor, in terms of weirdness.  The more you know about your specific genetics, the more you are equipped to understand your health.

This is the great advantage that Dr. D' Adamo offers: specificity.  




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At this point, I think anthing is possible.  What would it mean if I was LDN. Is the 1 or 2 after the A the Lewis thingy?


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LDN is rare but has wide ranging repercussions.  It is somewhat like being a extra strength non-secretor, in terms of weirdness.

and like being extra weird in terms of weirdness as well!!

LDN is one thing, A subtypes like 1 and 2 is another, AB.....

http://www.dadamo.com/program_advanced_subtypes.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/science_abh-lewis.htm


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As an AB, I can only have small portions of any meat at one time.  About 3 oz at most.  Otherwise I'm uncomfortable trying to digest any more meat and don't become hungry until almost 24 hrs later. I don't have the HCL for too much meat. I don't take dairy or fish either (I am very allergic to these) and unfortunately the allergic foods make me behave so delirious and weird. The compatible beans (Great Northern, Cannellini, Lentils, and Split Peas) give me a lot of energy. Soy is an avoid, and eggs are neutral.
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Shelly, you're worse than I.  Hmmm.......  I guess I'm doing better than I thought.  Have you always been like that?  I remember being little going to restaurants with my Dad, and he'd get mad because I couldn't finish my meal.  And I'd always go to the bathroom at some point to "try and make room".   At least that was my thinking back then.  On top of that it was always something super unhealthy like a corn dog and fries.


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I need my larger portions of animal proteins... especially lamb is da bombe for me and fish....all kind of fishles... lentils give me too much of gas and soyproducts as well and I tested em and it is once listened as a bene and then as a no-no.... so far I really like to trust my Vegatester...


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Is that like muscle testing?


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ABNW,

The Vegatester Isa talks about measures the energy flow in the body when exposed to different substances...  These machines are very accurate in determining whether substances cause a problem in the body...

Isa,
Since I don't understand completely how the tester works, is it possible that when the Vegatester changes indication for a substance often that the body is attempting to maintain proper level through the test?


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yep + - AB Joe... thank you for your statement.... you can get further infos' here : http://www.vitatec.com please go for the english version and also http://www.wellbalance.eu it's all about the same... electron changes and equilibre of the cell membrane structures.... ... here lays the key .... btw... http://www.brucelipton.com is the complete adaptation to all of those thesis... (no more hypo... nor hyper ...but truth so far
I always said that Dr.P.D. was right in his so called *hypothesis* of BTD... it was shown in nearly all of those test versions... dito is Bruce Lipton as an epigenetiker and landskaper of the DNA's u.a. one of the best to confirm...btw... the very first is still Prof.Dr.Popp in Teutonia...
but ther's something else that B.Lipton points out as his et.al.Dr.med Bodo Khler companero once showed up...electrons....cell membrane...structure and P.D. added the sugars
and here's something else ... ,,,,that mostly was overviewed....but this...next year ...


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