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Captain_Janeway
Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 9:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Aren't Genetics and Epigentics considered to be matter of fact, accredited sciences by the medical profession?


Not really, these are pure sciences that are extensively peer reviewed by like minded scientists.

The medical profession is just a mere user of the services. Just as MRI and CT scanners are a spin off result of space age technology.

Any genetic technologies that can be used as therapy for a disease can be licensed to the medical profession for a royalty.


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Greetings my fellow Health Food Junkies,

Here is an article on Health Food Junkies

according to the article:

Obsession with dietary perfection can sometimes do more harm than good, says one who has been there.

http://www.beyondveg.com/bratman-s/hfj/hf-junkie-1a.shtml

When it comes to the Orthorexia nervosa video. There are no images of anyone sticking a finger down the throat. The insinuation is even worse. Being obsessed with eating health food and excercising too much will make you vomit. I love how they depict a bowl full of vegetables as being somekind of evil meal. Its the extreme guilt that comes from eating the wrong unhealthy foods that makes you chunder.

The term Orthorexia Nerosa would be mostly used for very skinny obsessive health nuts (including exercise). So if you look fit or are overweight you are just a Health food junkie like me, congratulations.
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Wow, interesting thread.

People are threatened by anything that they are afraid to do themselves.  As far as I'm concerned, the only problem with rigid eating is social ostracism... which is what articles like this perpetuate.

People are too readily diagnosed with OCD.  As a teenager, I was.  But as I got older, my concerns with time, money, and health looked like normal, responsible, adult behavior, so it was no longer considered pathological.  All of this is about how to define and draw boundaries around "normal" behavior.  I often tell people that in pre-civilized societies, people like me were the ones who made sure the food was carefully inspected, preserved, and stored, and thus protected the entire village from starvation or food poisoning.  At least a few "OCD" individuals are needed in any group to keep everything functioning properly.  



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the worst thing in here is, to get *diagnozed*   in whatsoever often leads to a certain fixation where it is very heavy to leave.....
so far I think it is better to see it as a  psychological disturbance with all possibilities open for growth and to overcome this situation....


how often so called *diagnozes* are wrongly made statements coz of a lack of information ......


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Quoted from LauraT
Wow, interesting thread.

People are threatened by anything that they are afraid to do themselves.  As far as I'm concerned, the only problem with rigid eating is social ostracism... which is what articles like this perpetuate.

People are too readily diagnosed with OCD.  As a teenager, I was.  But as I got older, my concerns with time, money, and health looked like normal, responsible, adult behavior, so it was no longer considered pathological.  All of this is about how to define and draw boundaries around "normal" behavior.  I often tell people that in pre-civilized societies, people like me were the ones who made sure the food was carefully inspected, preserved, and stored, and thus protected the entire village from starvation or food poisoning.  At least a few "OCD" individuals are needed in any group to keep everything functioning properly.  



Our society has stigmatized extremes..If we don't focus well, we can be labeled having attention deficit disorder....If we over focus, it  can be called an obsessive compulsive disorder.  The word "disorder" is a term coined by people who are
looking to define behavior by saying something is wrong with the mind.

If you read the PDR of all the psyche disorders, I'm afraid most of us might be
labeled with at least one extreme that fits the terminology of pathology.

What is "normal" anyway?  



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What about "ignorance" as a psych disease? Sounds like a deadly one. Needing immediate treatment!


I'm onto you, 'euphoria'
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I guess it's all about where you fall on the bell shaped curve.  Anything on the "extremes" is by definition a disorder.
You can take anything to the extreme.  All I know is that eating the regular SAD made me sick and the BTD has made me a whole lot healthier.  I used to catch literally everything that came down the pike.  It was my little joke that if someone drove down the interstate that was 5 miles from my house with a cold that I'd get sick.  I was routinely ill fall and winter.  I caught every little virus....all until I started the BTD.  
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the very first thing here what should be investigated and  treated (coached) ;) is understandings...for  only *being*...nothing else...!!!


Chloe...you got it!!! yyyyeeeeehhhhaaaa this is the thing I tried to point out since some weeks....we have to take care not to get listed anywhere, why...once listed as being....bla..bla..bla.... you will carry this stigma for your rest of your life!!! people are that silly... .... what a dr. or Prof said *must* be true and correct.... ha-ha-haaa.... ;) .....
and often it is easier to throw people into a sort of drawer, instead of understanding what has really happened....causa and circumstances....ahem here the virtue also is to be seen in Codex Alimentarius...how cruel mankind can be about moneyearning and the need of power ....
btw... do you see right now how often MD's might be victims of biig pharma...   ok very well payed victims.... this is another fact I tried to point out always I am mentioning the enneagram...why...coz here lays one of the keys also to understand instantly with whom you are dealing infront of you !!! and please don't shut your eyes but look...look....look !!! and don't think gentillesse will be guaranted... not at all... egomania turns the world go around.... at those times...


will tell you a little story here...a guy in CH-landli...with a lot of money and land once got angry against the governement and allowed himself to go against in sorts of pamphlets..na ja not that nice but true and this man was an excellent writer of novels and more; btw Switzerland calls itself free and ok for everybody who wants to tell his/her own truth..or so called oppinion...oum...better not !!!  
This was in the years between 1960 and 86....so far so well...
he got la guerra totale...they put him into psychatric hospital, took off his money and lands in declaring he was illegally acting!!!
Hey...where are we.... that's why I've put the info about the *alpenparliament* on the teutonic thread.... get informed here about international issues...wow...amazing and frightening at the same time
yep this guy wasn't neither crazy nor whatsoever...only honest
and got hit by personal interests of government...mann...heavy...

it is infact not only society which has given the stigmas but interested firms who manipulate folks for their own profit.......for
stigmatisations..... by psyche patterns....
...that's why I ask you to pay attention to and with whom you identify.....


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Oh goody, another psychological disorder. Wonder if they'll start making pills for this "condition".

Didn't they call us "health nuts" 30 years ago?
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Oh goody, another psychological disorder. Wonder if they'll start making pills for this "condition".

Ask your doctor about "Orthmellow".  The tiny green pill that will calm your irrational and obsessive desire to eat healthy, whole foods.  With Orthmellow, you'll soon be downing Twinkies and Ho Ho's with the rest of America.  You'll fit right in.  No more round peg in a square hole for you!  With Orthmellow, you'll be the life of the corn-syrup-downing party!

Tell your doctor if you notice any of the following rare side effects of Orthmellow.  These are rare but in studies have happened in upwards of 95% of people who take Orthmellow:  your head turns purple, you swell to twice your normal size, you develop a strange desire to put chipmunks in the wood chipper, you lose the ability to speak in your native language, you grow an extra limb, your hair falls out, and/or you die a slow, agonizing death.  If you notice any of these symptoms, alert your doctor at once, as your dosage may need to be slightly adjusted.



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Quoted from Peppermint Twist

Ask your doctor about "Orthmellow".  The tiny green pill that will calm your irrational and obsessive desire to eat healthy, whole foods.  With Orthmellow, you'll soon be downing Twinkies and Ho Ho's with the rest of America.  You'll fit right in.  No more round peg in a square hole for you!  With Orthmellow, you'll be the life of the corn-syrup-downing party!

Tell your doctor if you notice any of the following rare side effects of Orthmellow.  These are rare but in studies have happened in upwards of 95% of people who take Orthmellow:  your head turns purple, you swell to twice your normal size, you develop a strange desire to put chipmunks in the wood chipper, you lose the ability to speak in your native language, you grow an extra limb, your hair falls out, and/or you die a slow, agonizing death.  If you notice any of these symptoms, alert your doctor at once, as your dosage may need to be slightly adjusted.



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Good one.

  Tank U!



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Here is another crazy thing going on in my part of the world.

It was my spiritual meditation teacher that recommended the BTD to me.

When I finally decided to buy the GT diet book. I went to our Australian Borders and they didn't have it. I had to go to the local Spiritual shop to buy it. There I found it next to books on Epigenetics, like the Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton and Alternative medicine.

Aren't Genetics and Epigentics considered to be matter of fact, accredited sciences by the medical profession?


I've bought GTD in Angus and Robertson twice in Canberra without having to order it.
Borders had many of the other Dadamo titles but were always out of GTD--maybe sold out?




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