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 If you're diagnosed with ADD, what's your blood t?
Blood type O that suspects they have  ADD (31 votes)
28.70%
Blood type O formally diagnosed with ADD (29 votes)
26.85%
Blood type A that suspects they have  ADD (21 votes)
19.44%
Blood type A formally diagnosed with ADD (10 votes)
9.26%
Blood type AB that suspects they have  ADD (7 votes)
6.48%
Blood type B formally diagnosed with ADD (5 votes)
4.63%
Blood type B that suspects they have  ADD (4 votes)
3.70%
Blood type AB formally diagnosed with ADD (1 votes)
0.93%
108 Votes Total Last vote Saturday, August 2, 2014, 4:16pm by Tresa
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Jean,
I laughed when I read your description of yourself because you could be describing me.
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Hey Jane, clean desks are signs of warped minds....
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jeanb..thanx for your kind sharing and wow... YOU hit the nail!!!
Mann thanx again but this is exactly the point to discuss... we always judge ourselfs to whatsoever... but in reality we admit the judgings also from others as being this and that and trallala & cha-cha-cha...
no all dearles, our capacities of changes are much wider and *wilder* of course ... but first you've to become aware of those issues and then accept and then say yes and ok...go and work on yourself!!!

Thats' the biiig challange in and with the enneagram... by understanding your first type...next your wings... it becomes all much clearer from what we are talkin about...and sorry... another no-no... I justamente don't think that ADD ADHS ADS or whatever really exists... only a form to make people dependant for drugs or .....to implement a fine feeling of *inferieurity*........another form of *system-thinkers and a classic form for comdemnation....
don't belief if once you are held in such a register...you won't be
judged as *...*.... .... prejudgements of people are soo often done, implemented even without any conscience.... sorry but I mistrust those.....coz my experience with clients here often was very pain-and awful...they never were allowed to leave..nor to be able to show their
*normality*... once diagnozed with .... always in!!! No chance to escape... this is the system!!! By God isn't that fine that we don't have anything to do here....I see here merely *it depends of the joblooser* in such systems...can be Dr.'s,,,can be nurses, can be therapsits... cotau..cotau...


p.s.

oops... never look @ my desk.... ...but sorry I never claimed that >I am..was.......! ----...


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Jean, you make me wonder if I'm a P instead of a J.  Someone (Isa maybe?) had questioned that in me before.  


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Ribbilein; remember the book *gifts differings* here it isd mentioned that all introverts do the opposit of their endings.... so far instead of j=p and vice versa ....they do...they act likewise... but they are still p's and j's .....dito in their outcome of test results....


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Yes, I do remember that.  But I've also become a much more relaxed person, perceptive and intuitive....the longer I'm on this diet and the longer I'm a mother.


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Daer Ribbit:

I think you are a P, my guess is ISFP.  The most comfortable in their skin mothers (especially the stay at home moms) whom I have met are FP's.

You seem to be very at peace with being at home with your kids.  

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jeanb, the merging of istp/j's to isfp/j's is the integrative way (the triangle of 3-6-9 is much shorter than all other ways for integration )..... ....
btw... we do have our wings and here also it depends of %centages what makes You... ....or better said is you...... then am I sure the E and I is sometimes changing and the way we experience life makes us
more sure of our own abilities and handling life at it comes up to us.......I think it is called *experience* ...


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Hi Isa:

My numbers on the MBTI continuum  are very close in the middle, esp on the ei and jp scale.  

I have been doing a lot of Introverted work for the past 2 years, installing a major accounting and manufacturing system.  I have also been doing a lot of accounting.  I have interaction with people, but I am pretty much stuck in the office all day.

Recently I decided to start going out on the road and meeting with customers and all of a sudden my energy is way up (interacting with people gives extroverts their energy).  The people at work tell me I seem almost giddy.  I had forgotten how much I missed "outside" the office work.  I still like to introvert once and awhile but extroverting gives me more energy.

So in the enneagram can you explain the "wings?"  I just retook a test and my test scores are tied as 8, 1, and 9.  Usually the numbers are slightly 8 preference and then 1 and 9 tied.

The way I like to explain MBTI and personality, is there are 16 rooms in the house in which you live.  You need to go to all the rooms in the house in order to live, but you will feel most comfortable in your own room (your own personality).  So in other words, I have been required to be an ISTJ and INTJ during the last 2 years, but the real me is happiest going out to see customers (ENTJ). Yes, it definitely is experience...

Tomorrow, I need to go visit my mother and discuss issues with her home.  My husband has warned me not to be my normal steamroller self and be more feeling when asking the staff why my mother left the home with no supervision (my mother is deep into Alzheimers with psychotic tendencies right now).  I have a list of about 50 questions I want answered by the home...I will try to be nice...
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I'm not F--I'm definitely T.  It's the F in my husband that annoys me slightly.

I stay home because I believe I should.  I've grown to enjoy it, for the most part, but I do get antsy.  When I get antsy I load everybody in the car and go where ever it is I want to go, whether it's to a state park for a hiking trip (which requires my husband too, to carry anybody who gets tired) or just out for a picnic lunch.  I get around plenty.  We go to concerts and just haul the kids along too.  We like to expose them to all sorts of music at an early age.


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It's the spontaneous P in you that gets you out of the house and out for adventures.

I didn't mean "staying at home" as in the true sense of the word.  I meant at home which to me means being with my kids, whether it is at home or out on adventures.  (Didn't mean to offend).

Humor me Ribbit, please take this test when you have a minute or two.  

http://similarminds.com/pref_jung.html
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Okay, I took it.  I'm an ISTJ attracted to ESTJs and an ESTJ-wannabe.  

Introverted (I) 53.33% Extroverted (E) 46.67%
Sensing (S) 52.63% Intuitive (N) 47.37%
Thinking (T) 52.27% Feeling (F) 47.73%
Perceiving (P) 50% Judging (J) 50%

I think that looks pretty balanced though.  I don't know why they stuck me as a J instead of a P if it's 50/50.  


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Wow, super balanced!!! Haven't seen too many of these ever. Lucky you!!!

I reviewed my course materials on a "tie" between P and J.  This is where the forced answer type test is used.  The test that you took gave you a continuum of 5, whereas a real MBTI would have used yes or no answers. The result is no ties for letters.

There are very few ties on the new forms of MBTI.  With the old forms, testers were told to speak to the test subject about preferences.

I would ask you questions like do you play before you work or work before you play?

Do you live to work?  
What is your sense of time?  
Are you on time for appointments?  
Do you get anxious if you are late for appointments?  
When you make decisions do you require a lot of information before you are willing to make a decision?  
Do you feel relieved when you make a decision?
Do you feel anxious when you make the decision wanting more information?

Here is Keirsey's description of Artisans

http://www.keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keirsey&f=fourtemps&tab=4&c=overview

Here is an article on ADD from the Keirsey point of view.  

http://www.keirsey.com/add_hoax.aspx
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jeanb, the wings of our type is the second type of our personallity as it is described in the enneagram ; meant here might be f.ex: intj is a 5 with a wing to no 6...inpt = 5 /4.....the wings are the conterpart to our ground-type...but in adjuvance .... and yessss of course are we hoppeling around in the enneagram and we share all types but we do have our ground-types as you describe yours as an ENTJ (fieldmarshall;) )
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com hope it works....

since a certain time I come out always as an intj.....
who wants to be an intp... (yep a bit friendlier and less dry
or better said analytical....)

i=67,74%                 E=32,26%
N=59,46%                 S=40,54%
T=57,89%                 F=42,11%
J=53,33%                 P=46,67%

mastermind,introverted,intellectual with a preference to find certainity, a builder of systems & applayer of theoretical models, 2,1%
of total population....yech...that'swhy it is soo difficult to find the adequate ........ :-/




and yep..yep..yup...thank you so much for the sustain with the hoax of the Keirsey's program about ADD and others.... ;D
that's it what I found out years ago..... ;) as well.... ;D


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Hi Isa:

The scary part for you and me is that female INTP's and ENTJ's are about 1% of the population.  

My wannabe type is ESTJ am attracted to ENTJ, not so different.  Have no fear, I think you are really friendly (but in that NTJ style)!!!!

Will do the enneagram later tonight, driving 3 hours soon to work out issues with my mother.  She is in advanced stages of Alzheimers showing signs of psychosis....nothing but fun.

I think the Keirsey article is excellent on ADD.  I show it to my kids teachers before they start the ADD/Ritalin talk with me.

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hey dearle you are attracted to your integrative next step ...1 goes to 7...jjjuuuhhuuiii thought you are an ENTJ ...so far........
oh mann Alzheimer I know very difficult...don't you give her any supps....they can really help out here as well..... psychosis... .... I won't give any chemical bombes, they don't really work....even when predicted by whitecoated....more zink,highest B-vits, mg and aminoacids...as we discussed it once...or please have an eye into this.www.orthomed.org Avram Hoffer did a wonderful job here for all kinds of psychological so called *disorders* I call them *disharmonies *


wish you all the best and feel from me and kindest wishes and regards also to your mum.... and have a safe trip in your car  

I also have the book *talkin back to Ritalin* an amazing insight...


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Hi Isa,

We have her on zinc, fish oils, B's, but which amino acids do you recommend?  She has extremely high blood pressure that is not controlled with white coat meds 190/120.  She is very small and underweight.

BTW, always been an ENTJ married to an ESTJ.  Mostly work with with ESTJ's (even the women).  

Thanks for your kind wishes...
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a form of so called *white high bp coz of a sort of renal failure or insufficience often high bp is also related to a very long existant problem of menatal/psychological issues...
for the rest I will pm you xoxox from Isa and hey Madl biig cotaus
infront of you for going with Alzheimer disease... the sister of my grandma is also one of those...... I got to recognize lately.... ...I was lurkng around in L.Hay's booklet.. not that far away either.. ...sorry but we can't prove the oposit..


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Hi Shells,

I was just checking over this thread (again), when I realized I didn't answer your question.

I apologize. I have the means necessary to give myself enough mental clarity but am not working hard enough at it.

Quoted from shells
Can I ask you what brought you to the point of getting off the milk and starting to exercise at night?  I am just trying to find some insight so I can try to help


I lost the milk by replacing with soy and rice milk and other creamy stuff - so many years in the change that nothing stands out as to ideas/impetus behind the change.  The BTD, as confirmed by GTD and Swami, was the final clincher.

My nocturnal travels were really to get rid of the need to "blow my feathers".  When I was last living in my mom's house, she washed all of my clothes, cooked most of my food, and did almost of all the housework.  I kept feeling "smothered" and embarrassed by my dependence.  Hemmed in at home, detached and excluded from study and work possibilities in the City.

The answer to the exercise issue was followed by a much larger change  

I moved from my mom's house in London, UK over to Toronto in the search of work and independence.

It is very difficult to get your children to listen to you, as my nine year-old demonstrates to me daily. From teaching senior high school boys, experience tells me that the best way to get a young man to do something is to challenge him with the achievement of a desirable goal. The goal requires what you want him to do, but not directly.

Could you get a man about half a generation older than him, who has succeeded in this sphere of life, to speak with him?    


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Do you play before you work or work before you play?

I usually work before I play, otherwise I'm thinking about how much stuff I have to do and can't enjoy playing.  However, I've learned as a mother that my work is NEVER done, and sometimes you just gotta let go and play anyway and leave the work till sometime else.

Do you live to work?

I enjoy working, but I enjoy resting and relaxing also.  I'm always doing stuff, and I like to be productive.  If I'm not doing something where I can see results, what's the point?
  
What is your sense of time?
  

Terrible.  Clueless.

Are you on time for appointments?

Yes, but only because I know it's disrespectful and irritating to the other person if I'm late.
  
Do you get anxious if you are late for appointments?


VERY.  But again, it's only because there's somebody else involved.
  
When you make decisions do you require a lot of information before you are willing to make a decision?  

Yes, and I make a long written list of pros and cons, every single thing I can think of, and it doesn't take me long.

Do you feel relieved when you make a decision?

Yes.

Do you feel anxious when you make the decision wanting more information?

No, I just go on what I have and readjust later if need be.


I much prefer these questions to the way they were worded on that quiz.  

I'm also a middle child, which makes me a little more balanced than perhaps your first child leader or your last child party person.

Now I want to take the Enneagram test.  But first I must take a nap.


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Go nap!!!

I still think you are a P more than a J just because of the time thing.

The real MBTI is structured with various aspects of personality that are out of norm for that personality (which makes you totally unique).  In other words, I am a tender hearted, late starting, pressure prompted ENTJ.

If you wish, I can send you links where you can take the real indicator (they all charge fees for this type of report unfortunately).  
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Just finished watching a program on CBC Regina called "A.D.D. and Loving It?!" Basic info & personal stories about ADD/ADHD hosted by Patrick McKenna (of Red Green fame).  Treatment and coping strategies are vague and featuring Centre for ADHD/ADD Advocacy, Canada.  Did not expect mention of Listening Therapy  (my fave), so I was not frustrated.

Then the kicker ... last 10 minutes talking about the benefits of "properly used" Ritalin , Ritalin is safer than aspirin (straw argument - no one is saying that Ritalin kills anyone), Ritalin is this, Ritalin is that, ..... Had to shut it off!

Walk away ... think nice thoughts ... No. nice thoughts - not thoughts about what might have happened if I suffered from Anger Control Deficit Disorder in near vicinity of the (ir)responsible ignoramuses who are conducting strategic marketing damage control and dressing it up as "Happy helpful advice"

The clowns are now performing the FDA "Mercury Dental Amalgam" Redux

I wish that I had the eloquence of PT so that I could write an encyclopaedia entry on the criminal behaviour of these distributors of mass misinformation.

Willingly blind to any other approach, treating symptoms on a consumer-convenience centered approach is neither medicine nor science! Hidebound, pharmaceutically obsessive compulsive. Give adult patients Ritalin to dose themselves with; let the ADD/ADHD sufferer schedule their own pharmaceutical treatment!  

The inmates are *truly* running the (psychiatric) ward!

Give the anger management patient the shotgun whydon'tya!


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Paul,
what type exercise do you do on a regular basis?


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Ribbit if you read the book of *the wisdom of the enneagram* or even clearer *the 9 personal types of the enneagram* by Don R.Riso you become aware what really maters you; f.ex. the more then one judgers in your head misleading to go for proper choices,always feeling torn between... etc.....here lays the key in real understanding and so no-one can make you believe anymore....

I was always wondering why it didn't work with me...analytical psy-th.
clarrooo now I know for me it is more important to come along with a body work...coz I am already a higly analytical mind....so far nearly all is grasped in my mind, must be understood why and how it is functioning but then... .....
don't underestimate your E-part as well....often I can relate to no 1
as well .....


oooh wow Paul, have you seen the documentation of that Dr. warning to use Ritalin She also mentioned that sudden infant death even at older ages is more than 600% elevated........


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Lola, I am very irregular in my exercise right now - am going for "dynamic stability."

If I exercise to the point of sweating (which I can do a very brisk walk these days) for 40 minutes I will need to sleep or lie down for three or 4 hours before I can do much of anything. So I am back to walking for as long as possible without such exhaustion about a dozen times a week and a little EMS.

Exercise has always seemed to me to be an "extra" food category for Hunters and Explorer Genotype.  The Swami diet that I am on now is Explorer based, but very Hunterized in the limitations.  My Avoid list is almost as long as all the others combined - this is not a complaint - see below.  Working within this has allowed me to loose weight even when I suspect that I have gained.

My battle is all within my skull since I have to think around the destructive habits, environments and temptations that I cannot (usually) physically avoid.  As I have "gained ground" in my compliance the lower weight that I achieved seems easier to hold to.

At 367 down from a high of over 390 lbs; I spent three hours on my feet taking the kids to the local carnival yesterday.  Only three brief times to sit toward the end. This may not seem like much, but it is an improvement.  My allopathic doctor is not sure why I do not have diabetes and probably will not issue more water pills until I submit to the mercies of a bariatric clinic in Hamilton. I tried to sound the clinic out as to what therapeutic directions they go in, but they are not willing to be explicit to potential patient on the phone. So I have to put up with the edema that limits my ability to exercise. Difficult to walk on mushy feet.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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