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 If you're diagnosed with ADD, what's your blood t?
Blood type O formally diagnosed with ADD (29 votes)
27.62%
Blood type O that suspects they have  ADD (29 votes)
27.62%
Blood type A that suspects they have  ADD (21 votes)
20.00%
Blood type A formally diagnosed with ADD (10 votes)
9.52%
Blood type AB that suspects they have  ADD (6 votes)
5.71%
Blood type B formally diagnosed with ADD (5 votes)
4.76%
Blood type B that suspects they have  ADD (4 votes)
3.81%
Blood type AB formally diagnosed with ADD (1 votes)
0.95%
105 Votes Total Last vote Friday, January 24, 2014, 2:48am by FancyMom
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I am nearly sure that the overload of no-no-sugars are the culprit of ADD/ADHS.... nothing else and then our psychograms which need more space and place *to be* instead of getting settled very early by boring teachers at school ....
We have to accept...kiddies are kiddies and it is our own interest to take them as kiddies and not as little adults...expecting things they in reality can't stand....

btw...when testing kiddies I see lacks..lacks....lacks of trace elements, minerals and mostly B-vits.... ....even some needs of aminoacids and yuck it is ..... in reality it can be that simple if only parents would be more aware about simplicity....and no chemical drugs for children!!! Did you realized that giving Ritalin to children augments instant death up to 600% !!! It's not me who claims that..but a therapist to be seen at Avram Hoffers youtube explanations..........today we accept merely all from teachers,docs, advocats etc. instead of looking beyond and being aware about struggles to be the one who's giving away his/her responsabilities!!!
have an eye onto R.Steiner schools even better at my oppinion are the
Montesori' schools ........


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Rudolf Steiner method schools seem very good in developing calm and focused children, I knew a group of them and I appreciated the results as a private music teacher, they have a more natural,organc if possible,  no preserving and emusifiers diet ( I fear nearly vegetarian for O and B blood groups) and no television for kids, but sports, plays and arts in the free time and at schools. If I had children and feared ADD AHDD or similar problems I'd look for a Steiner school

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Husband's mother was  type O (My MIL)....My husband's father was type A...My sons are type A but given my husband and I are type A too, they are probably AAs...My oldest grandson is type O, (his mother is an O, father an A) youngest grandson is type A and both his parents are A.

Since the O is the recessive trait, any A or B can carry a recessive o.  An O must pass an O to all offspring and an A or B can pass either the Dominant A/B or the recessive o.  

Since your husband's mother was Oo, your husband must be Ao.

Your oldest grandson - Oo shows that his father is Ao to be able to pass the recessive o to his son...

The youngest grandson is impossible to tell from the information given...



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I wonder if breastfed children versus bottle fed children has any effect on ADD.
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haa... Sharon... breast milk shouldn't contain any added sugars nor chemical bombes...normally..... but in those times it can be and it is alike, that even breastmilk contains badies like heavy metals etc...very
fine to get to know that our youngsters are poisened up from their very first breath, even further...coz of our envirenements.... and needs of industrial overgrowth................. .....


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Fucosylation and breastfeeding... I'd like to start a forum about this since I'm trying to learn more about breastfeeding and the effects it has on mental illness in adults.  It makes sense that children who are breast fed have more fucosylation since breast milk has much more beneficial sugars than formula alone.  I wonder if breastfed children are less likely to have ADD, Depression, Anxiety, Drug Addictions? I searched Pubmed and Medline but couldn't find any studies.  I only recall studies based on less allergies of breastfed babies.


My mom couldn't breast feed me so I was formula fed. I guess there are some women who are unable to produce enough milk.  I just starting to learn about this.  Someone mentioned LaLeche League.  I'll take a look into that.  I'm looking for good alternatives to formula just in case I can't breastfeed.

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ahem, Sharon, please don't forget the non-verbal communication between mum's and kiddies during breastfeedings..... .... ........


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Holy words Isa and also Omega 3 from fish if mommy's diet is rich of fish, tha is so important for nerves and brain.


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Quoted from Amazone I.
I am nearly sure that the overload of no-no-sugars are the culprit of ADD/ADHS.... nothing else and then our psychograms which need more space and place *to be* instead of getting settled very early by boring teachers at school ....
We have to accept...kiddies are kiddies and it is our own interest to take them as kiddies and not as little adults...expecting things they in reality can't stand....


Sugar isn't actually a stimulant, that's a misconception and the Genotype Diet book talks quite a bit about how many of the Type O traits are adaptations to hunting: the DRD4 mutation* is linked to ADD and Autism, two common blood type O traits. Stimulants work different in people with these genes, I myself sleep better on Adderall but the majority of people would be up all night if they took a 1/4 of the dose that I used to take. Tomatilla, I know what you're saying about the over diagnosis of hyper children with the genetic condition ADD but that doesn't mean that the condition isn't a valid one- it just means that big pharma is taking advantage of an actual condition in order to make big money. This of course isn't a big surprise, because the majority of people/companies are most concerned with their own money above all else.

"The 48-base pair VNTR in exon 3 range from 2 to 11 repeats. The frequency of the alleles varies greatly between populations, e.g., the 7-repeat version has high incidence in American and low in Asia.[7] "Long" versions of polymorphisms are the alleles with 6 to 10 repeats.

The 'DRD4 long' variant, or more specifically the 7 repeat (7R), has been loosely linked to a susceptibility for developing ADHD[8] and other psychological traits and disorders, like autism.

7R appears to react less strongly to dopamine molecules.[9]

The 48 bp VNTR has been the subject of much speculation about its evolution and role in human behaviors cross-culturally. The 7R allele appears to have been selected for about 40,000 years ago.[7]. In 1999 Chen and colleagues[10] observed that populations who migrated farther in the past 30,000 to 1,000 years ago had a higher frequency of 7R/long alleles. They also showed that nomadic populations had higher frequencies of 7R alleles than sedentary ones. More recently it was observed that the health status of nomadic Ariaal men was higher if they had 7R alleles. However in recently sedentary (non-nomadic) Ariaal those with 7R alleles seemed to have slightly deteriorated health.[11]"
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Wow that's really interesting Lola, now this begs an interesting question: what was Einstein's blood type (and genotype but I know that this isn't going to happen)? Am I correct in thinking that people that are blood type O have more fucose than the other types as a result of their antigen type?
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I wonder if breastfed children versus bottle fed children has any effect on ADD.


Two type "O" boys that were fully breastfed for over a year ended up with ADD, one diagnosed on the autistic spectrum.  One of my babies could only feed for 3 minute intervals each half hour or so (oh the engorgement!) and could not be left in the one position for any length of time and daytime sleep was virtually not there  

There are slight autistic traits throughout my extended family as well and when I think about it are also ADD types.  

Does anyone else find these connections?  
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Dr. D'Adamo mentions in several places how many blood type O traits are adaptations to hunting, and there are countless theoreticians that came before him that said the same thing. ADD is a genetic condition, as is Autism, to tell you the truth I believe that I have Asperger's condition and I do know for fact that the fight or flight response is very very relevant to ADD and Autistic spectrum conditions as I'm 24 years-old and I feel as if I've been in a "reactionary coma" for my entire life. I retreated into my mind to think about whatever interested me the most at any given time, I only reacted to stimuli around me and then after doing so I retreated into my mind again.

I can't properly differentiate between emotions, and I used to have a hard time expressing myself so I would get mad when others didn't understand me. Something that Dr. D'Adamo said really jumped out at me when I was reading today, he said that people that are blood type O should be very careful as to what kind of vaccinations that they receive. I know that there are many studies which show a correlation between conditions on the Autism spectrum and vaccinations- from 1986 to today the rate of Autism has went up thousands of times.

My biggest question is was blood type ever controlled for in any of the studies which seemed to disprove that the shots caused Autism? If Dr. D' Adamo, and myself, are correct in our assertions then it's BT O people that have the potential to get Autism after the shots but the groups they used for the studies which I just spoke of were made up of people from all blood types- this would make it appear that the correlation between Autism and the shots was much smaller than it actually is.

I don't mean to say that breastfeeding couldn't make a difference, because it could potentially affect some variables but, speaking from my own experience and all of the research I've read improper digestion of wheat is the main factor. As Dr. D'Adamo said, "wheat enhances the effect of Dopamine beta hydroxylase... an enzyme that turns dopamine into stress hormones." Therefore, people with this condition, as well as other BT O conditions, would have an abundance of stress hormones but a deficiency of dopamine- this would lead to distractibility, depression, and rage just to name a few.

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Thank you M. Mori for your explanation of patient from an ADD perspective.  It covers a ton of frustrating experiences in my life.

You are right saying that ADD is genetic.  I would like to go further; ADD and Spectrum are neurological developmental inefficiencies triggered in utero for those who are genetically and epigenetically vulnerable.  The diagnosies of ADD seem to target predominantly Anglo and Hispanic language populations.  In contrast, type O is the most pervasive blood type in the world.

I am not saying that you are off the track since the frequency of type O among ADD-diagnosed populations could be the greatest blood type bias that Dr. D'Adamo has ever seen.

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Have you read the GTD book?  I believe that the Genotype paradigm will reveal much that is now murky regarding wellness.


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sorry to interupt you here... but here merely the knowledge of psyche patterns is really helpful...mostly NT's seems to be attaint from such issues... and sorry I've to warn about stepping into identifications phases... why... read about the possibilities to change... go for the enneagram and then you will know where are the real culprits ....

I am this and that ..holds you into those patterns.... we all are able to change for the better... proof = BTD ..... but even here without efforts....our lives changed for the better whithin weeks....!

Stay as the observer without any judgements...and then lets it happen... become the one you'll become is one of the famoust interpretations of some "holy* words.... but sorry it is really true


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Hey Paul, how are you? I just began reading the genotype diet book yesterday, I don't mean to say that everyone with blood type O has ADD, because I know that there are many more factors than just this involved. The DRD4 mutation is one of these factors, and I believe that it could be one of the major factors involved epigentically.

"The dopamine receptor D4 is a G protein-coupled receptor encoded by the DRD4 gene.[1] As with other dopamine receptor subtypes, the D4 receptor is activated by the neurotransmitter dopamine. It is also a target for drugs which treat schizophrenia and Parkinson disease. The D4 receptor is considered to be D2-like in which the activated receptor inhibits the enzyme adenylyl cyclase, thereby reducing the intracellular concentration of the second messenger cyclic AMP.[2]"

"Mutations in this gene have been associated with various behavioral phenotypes, including autonomic nervous system dysfunction, attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder,[4] schizophrenia,[5] and the personality trait of novelty seeking.[6]"

A very interesting aspect about this mutation is that the original mutation (I don't have my notes in front of me so I'm not sure of the names) is present in many areas but the areas are primarily the two Americas, there is a further mutation of the 7R allele in Asia but the original mutation is no longer there. This shows that the original mutation wasn't selected for in Asia but it was very very greatly in the Americas. A massive percent of Native Americans from the North and South have the allele, I'm almost certain that I have it after getting into the more detailed science around it. This is described in detail in The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Culture Has Sped Up Evolution.


"The 'DRD4 long' variant, or more specifically the 7 repeat (7R), has been loosely linked to a susceptibility for developing ADHD[8] and other psychological traits and disorders, like autism.

7R appears to react less strongly to dopamine molecules.[9]

The 48 bp VNTR has been the subject of much speculation about its evolution and role in human behaviors cross-culturally. The 7R allele appears to have been selected for about 40,000 years ago.[7]. In 1999 Chen and colleagues[10] observed that populations who migrated farther in the past 30,000 to 1,000 years ago had a higher frequency of 7R/long alleles. They also showed that nomadic populations had higher frequencies of 7R alleles than sedentary ones. More recently it was observed that the health status of nomadic Ariaal men was higher if they had 7R alleles. However in recently sedentary (non-nomadic) Ariaal those with 7R alleles seemed to have slightly deteriorated health.

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Tomatillo, I know what you're saying but I just use my self, my family, and friends to learn about the condition through observation. I'm a very quiet person, I barely said anything throughout public school. I was a reactionary mute, only speaking when directly spoken to and usually having to ask the person to repeat themselves.

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Paul, I wonder if you have a problem scanning lines of text with your eyes like me? I have almost 20-20 vision but the letters are all jumbled together if the text is to close together. I always use at least space and a half spacing because of this, but I prefer double. If I read most books I have no problem but sometimes it bothers me.

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I'm pretty sure my 2nd DD has ADD, but I'm not sure if she's a B or an O.

She was never formally diagnosed, but I did have her therapist say "she has ODD and ADD tendencies"- the therapist was not "qualified" to make a formal diagnosis but is extremely well-versed in treating ADD children. I never pursued a formal diagnosis because I put her on the Feingold Program and her symptoms diminished, and I didn't want to deal with pressure from the school to medicate her.

She's only "borderline" ADD when she's perfect with Feingold compliance, and I suspect she'd lose even more symptoms if she fully followed BTD or GTD. (but at age 13, I can only do so much with controlling her diet. I buy the groceries but she eats at friends' houses, goes out to eat with friends, etc.)

I have some signs of ADD myself, but I also haven't been formally  diagnosed. I have far fewer symptoms (of all types- muscle pain, headaches, ADD like tendencies, etc) when I eat well.


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This is off the conversation line, but I may not be on the computer enough to follow this thread enough to do it justice.  So, I apologize!  

I was wondering if it is specifically coffee that appears to give relief to ADD sufferers, or if caffeine in other forms would also be effective.  This is, of course, with the BTD/GTS appropriate sources of caffeine in mind.  

Thanks for such an interesting topic.



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Yes M. Mori, I used to have trouble reading.  Effectively I was reading my own idiosyncratic version of English.

Starting in the summer before Grade 4 and into Grade 5 I received therapy from the Listening Centre in Toronto.  The therapist was Paul Maudel, who was effectively without any language before his therapy.  He now speaks 5 languages fluently and some others to lesser degrees.

My experience was that the therapy hard, and especially stressful.  The academic result was that in Grade 5, in the space of one term, all my grades jumped up a letter, except English which went from a D to a B.  The interior experience at that time was that everyone became easier to understand and my reading was faster.  I only discovered that I had been "dragging concrete blocks" all my life when the "chains were broken."

The stress and time (therapy about 25 hours/week average) and the expense is a big "I owe you" to my parents, who experienced some passive therapy as well.

I was told to ignore university before the therapy, but I worked for four years and obtained BSc. in Math.

According to Dr. Tomatis, the now deceased founder of the Listening Therapy, the ear is the first sense fully developed in utero and a necessary source of signal for neurological individuation and development of the brain. Any electronic device needs energy and signal to work.  Listening attunement is developed in utero, so second generation Italian Canadians speak English with a mainly Canadian inflection since their mothers do not often provide them with an dominantly Italian sonic utero experience.

Some of Dr. Tomatis' books have been translated from the original French.  The Listening Ear often reads like 16th century English, but is well worth the effort.

My hope is that the analytical lens of Genotypes will further refine alternative approaches and enhance their effectiveness.  If I could study both Nutrigenomics and Listening Therapy in the same setting, I would move heaven and earth to do so.

P.S. What kind of test would be required to discover one's DRD4 gene?  ADD is gender biased, but what of studies of that separate language bias from genetic bias?


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This is off the conversation line, but I may not be on the computer enough to follow this thread enough to do it justice.  So, I apologize!

I was wondering if it is specifically coffee that appears to give relief to ADD sufferers, or if caffeine in other forms would also be effective.  This is, of course, with the BTD/GTS appropriate sources of caffeine in mind.  

Thanks for such an interesting topic.


Hey Victoria, there are three substances which can be used to allow a person with ADD to concentrate, in order of effectiveness they are caffeine, nicotine, and amphetamine. But caffeine and nicotine have paradoxical effects because they'll allow someone to concentrate for a short period of time, and then after that it's much harder to concentrate without another 'dose' of the substance. I'm sure that this is part of the reason that so many people with A.D.D., and similar conditions, smoke cigarettes and consume so much coffee.

If coffee works for you then Tyrosine should work as well, it's done wonders for me and my sister. I prefer this kind*, and it's less than $20 for a month supply, it does the same thing as Adderall but it does it naturally.

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According to Dr. Tomatis, the now deceased founder of the Listening Therapy, the ear is the first sense fully developed in utero and a necessary source of signal for neurological individuation and development of the brain. Any electronic device needs energy and signal to work.  Listening attunement is developed in utero, so second generation Italian Canadians speak English with a mainly Canadian inflection since their mothers do not often provide them with an dominantly Italian sonic utero experience.

P.S. What kind of test would be required to discover one's DRD4 gene?  ADD is gender biased, but what of studies that separate language bias from genetic bias?


That's really interesting Paul I should check that out when I'm finished with my two books I'm working on now. I'm not sure of the exact genetic test for the DRD4 allele, but I am certain that it would be expensive. I think that people who carry the DRD4 gene are very likely, if not always hunters, it has been suggested by many people in the past that the mutation is an adaptation to hunting that allows for quick bursts of speed through an overactive fight or flight response. I think that eating wheat worsens the already existing, and adaptive, genetic by way of raising cAMP levels- the DRD4 mutation is a hypoactive dopamine receptor, this receptor lowers cAMP levels so since it requires more dopamine to activate this would lead to excess cAMP. When a person eats wheat and doesn't digest it good then it leads to higher cAMP levels, this would directly cause a dramatic worsening of whatever particular genetic condition a person has.

Ah but is ADD physically/genetically gender biased or is it's diagnosis simply gender biased? Women that have the condition are much more likely to have ADD-Primarily Inattentive while men are more likely to have ADHD- ADHD is way easier to diagnose. Even someone that knows nothing about psychology could see ADHD traits in people, but ADD is another story- I worked on my psychology bachelor's for 3 years before I realized that I had ADD-Primarily Inattentive. Now that I've been on the blood type diet for awhile I can read people easily, I used to couldn't at all, now I see people all of the time with ADD-PI and they usually have no idea that they have it. It's really strange, it reminds me of the way you said that you began to experience things differently after learning language much better.
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Well I admit that I am pretty attached and defensive of the Listening Therapy since I did receive so much from it.  It can certainly be improved upon and Genotype differentiation would probably be very effective.  

The need for long periods of low activity levels with unpredictable needs for bursts of high activity levels answers for herders as well as hunters.  Killing (and possibly eating) the natural predators of the flock is as primary as securing enough grazing greenery.

About thirty-five years ago, when I was diagnosed by educational psychologist, there were about four boys who were "Dyslexic" for every girl.  There are only two explanations that I have heard for this gender disparity.  The popular one was that the male brain uses less specialized spaces for listening than the female brain.  "No wonder men don't listen to us!"  The other, more specific, was that Tourettes Syndrome had a great female gender bias so the was and "uneven equality" in all the neurological pathologies.


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Hey Victoria, there are three substances which can be used to allow a person with ADD to concentrate, in order of effectiveness they are caffeine, nicotine, and amphetamine. But caffeine and nicotine have paradoxical effects because they'll allow someone to concentrate for a short period of time, and then after that it's much harder to concentrate without another 'dose' of the substance. I'm sure that this is part of the reason that so many people with A.D.D., and similar conditions, smoke cigarettes and consume so much coffee.

If coffee works for you then Tyrosine should work as well, it's done wonders for me and my sister. I prefer this kind*, and it's less than $20 for a month supply, it does the same thing as Adderall but it does it naturally.

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http://www.amazon.com/Source-N.....249259842&sr=8-1


Thanks for the reminder about Tyrosine, Memento.   I deal with chronic fatigue, which is different that what you are discussing, of course, yet I see many similarities!

According to Traditional Chinese Medicine, excessive caffeine will give temporary energy by draining a person's adrenals.  But with deep fatigue, it has been very tempting to rely on that temporary boost, which clears the mind (for a little while).  Coffee went out the window with the BTD, but I have to limit my green tea intake for the same reason.

I remember Tyrosine bringing a great sense of well-being, so thanks again.



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High levels of testosterone are known to cause hemisphere specialization in the brain, the left hemisphere is responsible for production of speech in about 85% of people but roughly 15% are right hemisphere dominant- these people are usually left handed. Paul, what direction do you look to when you're trying to remember something? Is your face symmetrical and what's the ratio of your index finger to ring finger?

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