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healthy4
Thursday, April 23, 2009, 1:45pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi there have to ask...I just received my secretor results was 100% sure i was a nonnie NOPE as seretor!!! now let me tell you the reason for this shock and I hoe someone can share their story too..all the nonnie foods that are avoids bother me..what is that about that is why I was so sure I was a nonnie has anyone else had this problem? and if so what do I do do I eat the foods that seem to bothering me as most foods seem to do these days...and realy follow the seretor plan really tight for a while and then will things shift? I am a liitle frustrated right now becasue I cannot figure out why I over the last few years I suddenly have all of these problems with foods...
still signing off with hugs but very frustrated right now...     


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Thursday, April 23, 2009, 2:23pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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You probably need some supplement support.

Can you make a list of all your symptoms?

What foods bother you?
May have to do with food combining?


MIFHI

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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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There's no point in eating foods that don't agree with you. I'd focus on the secretor beneficials and super-beneficials (omitting those individual foods that are problematic for you), along with healing supplements as Andrea suggested. I'd definitely include probiotics,  in supplement form and/or in  naturally fermented, unpasturized foods (as a secretor you can eat saurkraut!)

Make sure you eat plenty of red meat and oily fish. I'd stay away from all dairy except for butter and/or ghee, and cut out grains for a while (or at least keep it limited to 1 serving a day or less.)

Once you're feeling better, you can try adding in the "nonnie avoids, secretor OKs"  but there's no point in adding in foods that you KNOW bother you. Remember that the BTD is not a COMPLETE list of "safe" foods for every individual. It's possible to be allergic or sensitive to a food that's otherwise OK for your BT. For example, I have a friend who's deathly allergic to  garlic and peanuts, yet garlic is either beneficial or neutral for all 8 blood/sec types! It's possible that peanuts are an "avoid" for his blood type, but that's not possible with  garlic!


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  13yo B+ Jack


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Congratulations on finding out.  You can update your shield to be the Type O secretor.

In a few weeks/months, re-try the foods that bother you as you desire.  Remember, there are no individual foods that are required.
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Ok so my reaccuring symptoms are....(these are daily by the way)

heavy head like pressure in top of head and around temples(I think brought on by stevia) or hunger which I always am hungry that is...
pressure in ears popping like too
muscle aches(mostly back and upper neck)
itchy back side(you know
bloating(after any form of grain even brown rice ect) who has trouble with brown rice for heaven sake...
water retention
sore eys
blurred vision after certain foods
dizzyness that goes away after eatting or comes on after sugar consumption
what do you think I was also wondering if it could be candida or hypogicemia don't know enough about either of those right now....

also I know I am vitamin deficient through blood testing low D,B12, calcium and iron these where all below the mininum standard range.

so what do you think?


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Lola thanks for that link that was a dead on answer.

also forgot to mention I am newly diagnosed celiac and another symptom that is very annoying itchy ears!!!


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I would not hesitate to follow one of the health series books until your body detoxes and balances out......

the food lists are targeted to your needs and there are protocols included as backup

allergies, fatigue, aging come to mind.....choose one or the menopause book if you are around that stage in your life, don t see your age....

I was greatly helped by following the guidelines, leaving out the most important avoids ......compliance is key!


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Hi lola great idea I beleive my local library has the allergy book I will ck thatone out also I did not know he has a menopause book I am not near menopaouse but could be in the mild peri stages during certain parts of my cycle for sure....where could i find the menopause book?


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click on store, then search the health library......
you ll see all the books available so far!


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click on the store, then click on book store......
don t forget to hit the browse button!

you ll see all the books available so far!

click on
Series: Fight it with the Blood Type Diet


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Hi healthy4,
if you are celiac, use no grain for a while ( the longer the better)and after try rice, amaranth and quinoa.
Spelt, Kamut, Emmer and Rye are avoids for celiacs as barley.
You will have relief rather quickly with gluten free BTD
My two cents as celiac too Maria Giovanna


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Hi healthy4
also  Dr.D Detox protocol can help you
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/19.html


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once again thank you I have grown to love you all you are a great support and inspiration that I am on the right path....Maria did you have trouble with all grains in the beggining too is this common for new celiacs? I was just diagnosed 2 weeks ago after 3yrs of saying somthing is still not right no matter what the standard blood test are telling us....thank heavens I never gave up on myself and kept searching YEH for womens intuition

went to the library this afternoon and picked up ERT allergy book it looks great but is it based on true allergies is peanuts or will it help with my intoerances and sesnitivies to foods.

hugs all around  


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Hi Healthy
  Welcome to the Secretor club.  Hey we're healthier than nonnies! Be Proud!  
Try eating with digestive enzymes at your meals for O's. You might just need some digestive help.
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Have you been eating any gluten during the time you thought you were a non-secretor? If so, it's going to take some time to heal from gluten exposure. If you cut out  gluten a while ago, then you're already in better shape than you'd be if you hadn't.

I read two separate books from the Health series; Arthritis and Fatigue (since Fibromyalgia has elements of both) and I found that the nutritional protocals were EXACTLY the same; the only differences were in the supplement suggestions (as the supplements were suggested to help with specific problems, and each book covered different problems with just a little bit of overlap). The actual texts differered slightly-both explained the general concept of the BTD and then delved into specifics about how BTD can help with the conditions focused on with each book.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  13yo B+ Jack


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Some of those symptoms sound very similar to my corn and corn derivative reactions.  It is difficult to remove all corn from your diet (including corn derived things like citric acid, corn alcohols in flavorings, and xanthan gum) but I think if you haven't tried it before, it may be worth a try.  Cutting out most beverages that you don't make yourself is a good start.

Does your doctor have you on a sifficiently high dose of D?  D3 is better absorbed (and better in many ways) than the prescription form D2.  Having low D and calcium can worsen your reactivity to foods and environment.  Take some K as well, the blood test for that only detects severe deficiencies.


Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.
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Healthy4, it sounds like you are having some hypoglycemia.  Maybe your adrenal glands are run down?  They produce cortisol which is what raises your blood sugar when it drops too low.  
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I am going to point out that you could be an "Explorer" from the GenoType diet.

They are an enigma that occurs on either secreter status and any ABO blood group.

They need constant detox, and wheat is horrible for them. Soy tends to be too. Your symptoms just add up and up, and so does your problems with the lists of food working or not working with you.

They are prone to hypoglycemia issues, and are hard to diagnose most of the time.

Consider the GenoType book. However if you PM me your measurements from Youtube. I can tell you what you are, so we will know if you are an enigma and should grab the GenoType book.

So far in my experience all my strange problems have cleared up with the Explorer diet rather than the constant strange battle pursued with Blood Type and listening to myself and other publications. However this is a suggestion, not necessarily the answer.
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