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I've been on the BTD for less than a month, and I'm currently dealing with that unpleasantness involving irritability, bloating, cramps, chocolate cravings, etc.

I've got my red raspberry leaf tea. I'm eating lots of "beneficials" today and most of them are high in B vitamins and iron. But I still want CHOCOLATE!!!!!


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IMO, I'd like to think so!!!


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I don't know but it sounds good. I occasionally eat dark chocolate, it has less sugar and I look for organic with the least amount of chemicals and no corn syrup. Usually a small piece is all I need. Or you can make yourself a cup of hot cocoa using a compliant milk substitute, organic choc powder and agave or compliant sweetener.


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If you can limit yourself to one piece of dark...go for it...although I would have a hard time sleeping tonight if I had one now.

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ruthiegirl, surely you jest!! When is chocolate NOT good for ya?           just kidding  
       that was the part of me that loves chocolate talking.      can't see what a li'l piece of good chocolate could hurt.  tho that might be that same part of me talking again.  



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I had some trail mix last night- a mixture of pumpkin seeds, walnuts, dried blueberries, and nondairy chocolate chips. Yeah, the chips have sugar and soy lecithin, but mixed with all the beneficials in the trail mix I figured it was a good (and yummy!) compromise.

Now I'm thinking I want some hot cocoa. I'm sure I can come up with something tasty with cocoa powder and molasses..


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The soy lecithin is fine...it's not like regular soy.  You may be craving magnesium or B vitamins! Personally, as a chocoholic myself (I prefer the 72% Endangered Species brand) a little dark chocolate is supposed to be good for you (and it tastes so darn good!)
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Even I am getting into chocolate now, as a Gatherer (it is a diamond superfood, afterall).  Only I prefer mine in the form of pure cocoa powder, which I then add to all manner of fruit smoothies.  Some come out better than others *lol*!

At some point, I am going to try a "mole" sauce on a savory poultry dish or the like.  According to gcg, a good mole sauce really rocks.


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The soy lecithin is fine...it's not like regular soy.  You may be craving magnesium or B vitamins! Personally, as a chocoholic myself (I prefer the 72% Endangered Species brand) a little dark chocolate is supposed to be good for you (and it tastes so darn good!)


Oh, ya, Bat Bars rule...and the Ape bars..and the Tiger bars..don't forget the Monkey bars..
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Even I am getting into chocolate now, as a Gatherer (it is a diamond superfood, afterall).  Only I prefer mine in the form of pure cocoa powder, which I then add to all manner of fruit smoothies.  Some come out better than others *lol*!


Hmmmmm, I am not a big fan of chocolate.  Maybe my tastes will change on the GTD and I will find that I like it.

I have never understood the desire people have for chocolate, because my downfall was caramels mmmmmmmmmmmmm...  No diamond food there, no sirry.  I don't crave them anymore since the BTD, I was able to beat that caramel monkey off my back.



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I second the Endangered Species brand.  Some of them have beet sugar which doesn't affect me like cane sugar.

I did an experiment with chocolate back about 6 years ago when I actually  had periods () and PMS.  I thought it was the sugar that people were craving.  So I bought some Baker's unsweet chocolate (back before it had milk in it) and ate a big piece of it during the throes of the worst of it, and it was hard to get down, let me tell ya.  But pretty soon I did feel better!  So I determined it was indeed the chocolate, and not the sugar, that makes you feel better.


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Hmmmmm, I am not a big fan of chocolate.  Maybe my tastes will change on the GTD and I will find that I like it.

I have never understood the desire people have for chocolate, because my downfall was caramels mmmmmmmmmmmmm... No diamond food there, no sirry.  I don't crave them anymore since the BTD, I was able to beat that caramel monkey off my back.


Caaarrraaaaammmmmeeeellll Frosty...was one of my favorites too. That is one of the reasons I loooovvvveee ghee...it smells and tastes like caramel to me.  

On Gatherer, I have one little square of 99% dark in my tea in the morning. Otherwise, I don't have one past noon as I can't sleep at night.   Even with doing the O exercise.

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I'm also taking my b complex and my cal/mag and my extra mag, so I'm sure I'm getting plenty of those.

But there's just something about chocolate....

I did have some hot cocoa this afternoon. I mixed cocoa powder in hot water, added a bit of molasses, tasted it, and then added a bit of stevia. It wasn't as good as the kind I used to make with coconut milk pre-BTD,  but it was still yummy.


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Debra,

I love ghee tooooo.  I could easily get carried away with it, so, I use it sparingly.

When I start back on the GTD in April I will try the dark in my tea and see if I like it.  Until then I will follow the BTD and do the best that I possibly can while on vacation.


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Try a little ghee with your cocoa...yummilicious.

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Mmmmm.  Ghee, cocoa powder and agave mixed into a paste and spread on a rice cake.  Who needs dessert?


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Your body actually wants iron, eat some beef with broccoli and peppers... Chocolate despite it being iron free basically is what people crave when they are low on iron.
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Your body actually wants iron, eat some beef with broccoli and peppers...  


Not for an A!  Maybe a Tbsp. of blackstrap molasses?  Somebody try that next time and tell me if it helps, will you?  I won't have the chance for at least another 1 1/2 years (lucky me ).


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Oh my god...ribbit....that was incredibly delicious....even though choc is a black dot for me..I always just assumed the cocoa powder had to be cooked. Exactly what i need to replace hershey bars. Thank you thank you thank you.


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We like it with carob powder too.  I assume you're talking about the chocolate spread on a rice cake.  Kinda hits the spot, doesn't it?

I would think during certain times of the month when things are ... at "unrest" for lack of a better word ... this snack would be very nourishing.


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Chocolate Tofu Pudding

1 14 Oz Package Soft Silken Tofu (I like House Foods soft silken or Mori-Nu firm silken)
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1/3 Cup Agave Nectar (feel free to use a little more if you want it sweeter)
1 Tbsp Vanilla Extract

1. Place all the ingredients in a food processor and blend to combine.
2. Scrape down the sides of the food processor and blend again to make sure everything is incorporated.
3. Serve immediately or chilled.


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I made some up(the agave, cocoa and ghee) and took it to my grandchildren..one gatherer 0 and one teacher A, and my son is teacher A, and daughter in law is gatherer 0...and neither of the teachers liked it that much. But the gatherers thought it was superb. I'm going to make some up and put in freezer and see what happens. i feel like i've discovered Alaska.


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Sounds like the new Nutella!


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I made it a second time and put over my raspberries/pineapple. Too much cocoa. Tasted like dark chocolate...but with less cocoa..tastes like milk chocolate.


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I ate one thick hershey bar every single day for the last ten years. I haven't had one since last friday. That cocoa/ghee/agave mixture has replaced the hershey. I probably had a half cup the first three days but the next three days...much less..all i seem to need is 3 to 5 teaspoons and i have a feeling that my desire will be less and less. I'm really beginning to think that the desire for chocolate is masking a desire for fat. Yesterday I made the mixture with tumeric/ghee/agave and used it as a dipping sauce on the vegetables and got the same satisfaction as with the cocoa. I know some of you will think i'm a little freaky and this isn't for everyone...but it is so satisfying to me that it takes away any cravings for more.  I'm a firm believer that if you crave something...its probably not good for you. On the truely freakier side of my nature..i've even thought of going on a little fast..and eating nothing for a couple of days but the ghee/agave mixture with any spice of my choice(or compliance).  Kind of a precursor to some heavy duty weight loss. Actually, thinking of this limited diet makes me want to throw up. It just takes my appetite away and thats how i'm going to lose weight. Thanks again, ribbit...you've helped to create a monster.


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cozzete I like the idea of ghee, turmeric and agave on some veges! steamed spinach maybe?

i found this really suprisingly good raw-cocoa single-origin chocolate made here, the one i tried has maca powder in it, it was like the fudgiest choc bar ever, swoon, new love!

the ingreedients are: Organic raw cacao butter, Organic raw cacao powder, Organic agave syrup (dark), Organic lúcuma powder, Organic maca powder, Himalayan crystal salt.

gatherers esp; check it out!
http://www.raw-chocolate.net/raw-chocolate.php?chocolate-bar=lucuma

seemed to help with pms
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Cozzete, no O will do badly on compliant veggies and meat.  Fasting does the soul good, but it doesn't take away an appetite (in my experience).  I think lots of ghee is great too, to help you feel full, but maybe the rice cake isn't such a great idea.  How about reducing carbs (and no more chocolate bars!  The sugar in one chocolate bar may be enough to keep your weight up).  How about a raw diet combined with your daily meat?  Like fry up a steak in ghee and then a little later drink a green juice (wanna talk about appetite reduction!  Wow--that takes mine away right there!)  When I do raw, as an A, I can get away with just the veggies and fruits and some nuts and cheese.  But I realize you Os need meat, and maybe you can combine the two.  Just do your meat before your juicing so the meat stops the stomach acid production, not the juice.  You want meat on your tummy first so it benefits from all that acid.

I was feeling lousy the other afternoon and really wanted a nap, but having small children who weren't tired, I couldn't.  I remembered that a green juice always perks me up, so I juiced kale, cilantro and an apple together.  It wasn't any more than about 4 oz, but it made me feel fantastic the rest of the day.  I actually got a room cleaned.


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ouuu we have fasted and it just made us want to eat more.  Even my wife who does not have an eating addiction issue like me.  be careful... it can backfire.  but everyone is different... some seem to do well on it.  I think I remember reading somewhere that O's should not fast... but can't remember where.  

and man that chocolate bar looks great!  i think i'm going to order one!!!

P.s.   why did you say especially 'Gatherer's'?  It looks ok for a Hunter ??


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Even I am getting into chocolate now, as a Gatherer (it is a diamond superfood, afterall).  Only I prefer mine in the form of pure cocoa powder, which I then add to all manner of fruit smoothies.  Some come out better than others *lol*!

At some point, I am going to try a "mole" sauce on a savory poultry dish or the like.  According to gcg, a good mole sauce really rocks.


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and man that chocolate bar looks great!  i think i'm going to order one!!!

P.s.   why did you say especially 'Gatherer's'?  It looks ok for a Hunter ??


hey there.. only have the gatherers on the top of my head at the time
as maca and lacuma powder are not rated I treat them as neutral -- may be ok for hunters (and gatherers for that matter?!) , but I am not certain?
certainly is delicious chocolate though! they also supply agave syrups and raw cocoa powder of v. good quality.
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a question from a total chocaholic...because I'm confused by what I've read on this thread.

In the book, chocolate is an OK food for me, obviously not milk as dairy is an avoid, but I notice reading the ingredients on my dark chocolate that it has soy lecithin.  Is this the same thing as soy (which is an avoid)? or something else?

any clarification much appreciated...
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lecithin is fine
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?220

so is chocolate, understood as cocoa, or made from permissible ingredients
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?113

try make your own compliant one
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?515

soy isn t an avoid being an O secretor
but that s beside the point....


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Well sadly the shipping cost is horrid!  Can't go there...  

I make our own anyway but it's not the same texture as these and  you have to keep Katy's in the freezer.  But that's ok.


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soy isn t an avoid being an O secretor
but that s beside the point....


thanks for the clarification Lola, I got myself confused becauase soya oil is an avoid...

I also think I'm a Hunter...and soya is definitely an avoid for those...not that I like/eat it much anyway.  

I'm still rather confused about the Genotype diet, and haven' t quite got my head around it, it's somewhat contradictory, so am stickingt to the BTD for the moment.

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