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O so positive
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i am an O non secretor and I have been following the blood type and now the geno type diet since 2000. I also exercise about 5 days a week.   I have celiac disesase and secondary hypothyroidism.  I have been struggling to lose about 15 pounds.  Does any have any suggestions?


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Do you keep track of what you are eating? Even on the diet I sometimes find myself leaning towards becoming a "starchatarian", ie I have to pay attention and the old rule calories in vs calories out still applies.


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I do track my intake, but do tend to gravitate to grains .  Do you watch your fat intake as well?  How many calories a day should I be eating?  


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I have been following the blood type and now the geno type diet since 2000.

add your GT to your shield for all to see and give you more targeted advice, pls.


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I am a Gatherer, I just can't find where I add that to my profile.  


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how to
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/

you already added it on the bottom of your signature line, fine!

check out the whole thread if you want to add it under your shield.


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I just googled "calorie intake" and found this http://www.csgnetwork.com/caloriesfemalecalc.html
looks interesting.
I don't count calories myself, I try to listen to what my body is asking for and I seem to do pretty well, but if I were having a weight issue I would use something like this calculator. I don't need much fat as an A, I'm not sure about Os so I will let one of them answer that.


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Thanks for the info, I will check it out


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I am not convinced on calorie intake. Particularly for a Gatherer, they are very thrifty so if you reduce calories the Gatherer will hold on to more. "He who has the most wins"
So I would think more about your health issues and how they effect  weight.
People have talked quite a bit about healing prior to weight loss.
Those diamond foods should put you on the right track. The smallest avoid in a prepared food can make all the difference in the world.

Keeping a diet/food journal might be a good start.


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What kind of exercise do you do?  I found that I lose if I exercise regularly, and need to have some longer exercise sessions, like more than a 30 minute walk for example.  Which grains do you eat?  I was focusing on quinoa for a couple of days, as a breakfast cereal and in pilaf with tuna.  Those days I really seemed to drop weight.  Usually I eat rice as a grain...but it seems to keep my weight stable.  
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Keeping a diet/food journal might be a good start.


This is a good idea, and I forgot to say that I think it is a bad idea to let yourself get really hungry, eat something, maybe a few walnuts an hour or so before a meal; takes the edge off.


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I'm an O and I find that I lose weight better on mostly meat and veggies, maybe one starchy veggie serving a day.  Grains I would normally cut out except that my dr has me eating oatmeal everyday.  I track my food intake and calories on sparkpeople.  It really helps to know where you are on your calories and such.

Don't get too hungry before meals like samy said.  It's very bad and a person tends to overeat that way.


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The only thing that the oatmeal is providing is fiber, many other things on the O list provide fiber.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/394340/fast_metabolizers_who_eat_oatmeal_may.html



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I do track my intake, but do tend to gravitate to grains .  Do you watch your fat intake as well?  How many calories a day should I be eating?  


You don't need to count calories on the genotype diet, but you do need to take the portion and frequency recommendations to heart.  Also, for successful weightloss, focus on diamonds and superfoods.  Sometimes people can get bogged down in the neutral category and that can keep you in neutral gear  .

Millet and quinoa are helpful for gatherers.  Basmati rice and oats can be ok, but not as good for bringing the weight to normal, in my opinion.  My daughter has had very good luck also with the addition of chia seeds to her daily smoothie, and CLA, which Dr. D sells for  Gatherers in the BTD store.



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The only thing that the oatmeal is providing is fiber, many other things on the O list provide fiber.




When I eat oatmeal I'm hungry a few hours later steel cut oats are a little bit better. I usually try to add walnuts and fruits etc. to keep it from being metabolized so fast.


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Thanks for the suggestions, someone mentioned exercise.  I jog about 3-5 miles a day and do strenght training as well. I guess that is why I can't understand not losing. But I have cut my calories back to about a 1000 to 1100 a day, maybe that is why? Not enough fuel for the body.  The walnuts is a good idea, it should always keep me burning.  thanks so much for the advice.


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When I eat oatmeal I'm hungry a few hours later steel cut oats are a little bit better. I usually try to add walnuts and fruits etc. to keep it from being metabolized so fast.



I took this directly from the link I provided..


"If you've experienced hypoglycemia after eating oatmeal, you may want to switch to millet or brown rice. Millet is the only "alkalinizing" grain. I find that a combination of brown rice, or millet, with two eggs scrambled in while the grain is heating and then adding super food, that includes chlorella and spirulina, plus ground flax seed, works well for me and curbs my appetite until lunch time, which is usually around two o-clock. "


So oatmeal is not an ideal food for O's.



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But I have cut my calories back to about a 1000 to 1100 a day, maybe that is why? Not enough fuel for the body.


Not sure what you mean.. cut your calories.. then not enough fuel for your body?
Concentrated sources of foods..



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sun be nim mentioned not cutting calories to low.  is 1000 to 1100 to little for the body and it stops burning fat for a gatherer?


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We do not know what your height and age are so it is difficult for us to know what your caloric intake should be.  If you do not eat enough, then your body goes into the starvation mode and tries to hang on to the fat.  Also keep in mind that muscle weighs more than fat, so you might be in the OK range considering that.  Park Districts, Fitness centers, health Fairs, etc will measure your % body fat and tell you what a healthy range is for you.  

I decided to lose 15 lbs.  Ive been losing lb a week.  Now that I only have 2 more pounds to go, I think Ill go down another 5 lbs.  That was what I did 8 years ago, then stabilized at 5 lbs more until I twisted my knee last March and couldnt exercise for months, so gained 15 lbs.

I kept a food log which made me realize it was my portion sizes and # of servings that were my problem.  I also know that without exercise, Im doomed.


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Hip to waist ratio is very important.


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Dr. Oz says, height in inches divided by two should be maximum waist size. Too few calories will put anyone into starvation mode. Most average females need about 1800 calories a day depending on exercise (which is very important).
P.S. post-menopausal women are no longer producing the same amount of testosterone and tend to loose muscle, need to do those weights!


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If  you are a nonnie,  you should eat fewer grains. 1,100 calories is waaaaaay too low. Concentrate on health, not calories. Eat more often, if possible.
Maybe you need to do the GT if you aren't doing so.  Stick around here for more ideas.
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Red Lilac, You asked my age and height.  I am 5 foot 9 in tall and am 36 years old. I am with in my weight range but on the high end.  I would like to just drop down to the lower end of that range.   I have exercised all my life and probably do have a good amount of muscle.  You are right the calorie amount does seem too low.  Maybe I have put myself in starvation mode?  I run a lot so I probably am not putting enough fuel in my body.  Thanks for all your input


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Thanks for being willing to hear what we are saying!


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