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When it comes to super beneficial foods and diamond foods, I notice that flax oil and flax seeds are listed for Warriors....and even oils like Evening Primrose oil.
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Men and women get the same diets regardless if they follow the BTD or the GTD...
Soy is prominent in the type A diets.
I was making flax bread and my husband asked me why I was using flax seeds. I'm answering him by saying that women need to eat phytoestrogen foods... that weak estrogens from plant sources will fill estrogen receptor sites and not leave room for xenoestrogens from environmental toxins.
Makes perfect sense.
He asked about men.
I understand the importance for women to use phytoestrogen foods, but what is the point of men eating foods high in phytoestrogens?
How would this benefit them? |
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| Friday, February 6, 2009, 2:11am |
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it is also about omegas and good source of fiber..... |
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it is also about omegas and good source of fiber.....
There are also other high phytoestrogen foods like soy that men eat on the type A diets. I'm just wondering if men have estrogen receptor sites or if these foods block bad estrogen for them as well. To help prevent prostate cancer?? I'm trying to figure out the benefits of phytoestrogen foods for males. http://www.dietaryfiberfood.com/phytoestrogen.php |
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| Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:27pm |
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Quoted from Chloe I understand the importance for women to use phytoestrogen foods, but what is the point of men eating foods high in phytoestrogens? There may not be any. A product like flax seed is valuable for men for its fiber and omegas but only possibly more. All I could find in here about it was-maybe Quoted from article prostate cancer and cardiovascular disease risks, possible protection against osteoporosis A possible bonus?  |
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| Friday, February 6, 2009, 8:17pm |
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Flax is a phyotestrogen food?  |
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| Friday, February 6, 2009, 8:26pm |
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Flax is a phyotestrogen food? 
According to the article posted by Chloe in reply 2 it is the phyoestrogen food. News to me too. |
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| Friday, February 6, 2009, 8:43pm |
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OOOhh.. cool. I haven't been remembering to eat it lately..no wonder my hot flashes were worse.. lol...  |
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| Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:43pm |
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OOOhh.. cool. I haven't been remembering to eat it lately..no wonder my hot flashes were worse.. lol... 
Make flax bread...Two slices gives you 1/4 cup of ground flax seeds. It's my favorite breakfast. |
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| Saturday, February 7, 2009, 12:52am |
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Great...does that mean I will not have menopausal symtoms or less of them if I eat flax??? I eat it in my cereal every morning and have done so for several years  |
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| Saturday, February 7, 2009, 12:59am |
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| Saturday, February 7, 2009, 2:20am |
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and making you regular, which is overall a great help, apart from all the other benefits!  a psychotherapist s dream come true!! lol don t forget Dr. D's Fembalance |
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cancer health series books and other are for both men and women alike!  protocols as well, unless otherwise stated... |
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| Saturday, February 7, 2009, 9:31am |
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flaxseeds = omega 3 too  ...I eat them every morning in my breakfast mix = 125 grams of bifidusyogi & flaxseeds &oatbran & amaranth pops.... sometimes a bit  but better to go onto the WC after ...  but the hot flashes are still loving and embracing me daily....  |
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I knew they were good for me ,but this is nice perk! |
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| Saturday, March 28, 2009, 4:12pm |
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I read somewhere that men should stay away from soy products period. Some thing about it's full of females hormones... |
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| Saturday, March 28, 2009, 4:23pm |
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that too is a one size fit all.....
Dr D has his tempeh! |
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| Saturday, March 28, 2009, 4:46pm |
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| Sunday, March 29, 2009, 7:53pm |
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I really like soy products. The texture. Soy milk is delicious. But it gives me terrible digestive problems. I guess I'll try it again if and when I get this candida thing squared away. |
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| Sunday, March 29, 2009, 8:28pm |
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I really like soy products. The texture. Soy milk is delicious. But it gives me terrible digestive problems. I guess I'll try it again if and when I get this candida thing squared away.
How about cultured soy like tempeh or miso? The cultured soy often sits better in some people's guts. |
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| Monday, March 30, 2009, 7:55pm |
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At first glance the explorer diet seems low in phytoestrogens with eg. no soy or flax or rye, but I guess you can get your lignans and flavonoids from garlic, lingonberries and cranberries or camelina meal. Carob, an explorer diamond, is apparently a good source of phytoestrogen. I understand phytoestrogens work in a very gentle and balancing way if you compare them with an actual hormone replacement therapy or some birth control pills. High quality soy isolates with the flavonoids intact are used by athletes to increase muscle mass and burn fat. The isoflavonoids can be used to help the estrogen dominance also men will face when the time comes. |
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| Monday, March 30, 2009, 8:37pm |
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At first glance the explorer diet seems low in phytoestrogens with eg. no soy or flax or rye, but I guess you can get your lignans and flavonoids from garlic, lingonberries and cranberries or camelina meal. Carob, an explorer diamond, is apparently a good source of phytoestrogen. I understand phytoestrogens work in a very gentle and balancing way if you compare them with an actual hormone replacement therapy or some birth control pills. High quality soy isolates with the flavonoids intact are used by athletes to increase muscle mass and burn fat. The isoflavonoids can be used to help the estrogen dominance also men will face when the time comes.
I do eat garlic and cranberries (I don't know what camelina meal is) but what can an Explorer make with carob. I like carob and I can find carob powder, but other than mix it in my tea I'm not sure what I could do with it. Any ideas? |
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| Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 2:31am |
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You can use carob powder in a milkshake much like cocoa powder. I grew up on carob milk at breakfast.
It makes nice brownies too.
You can also mix it with ghee and agave and spread it on a rice cake. |
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| Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 5:09pm |
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You can use carob powder in a milkshake much like cocoa powder. I grew up on carob milk at breakfast.
It makes nice brownies too.
You can also mix it with ghee and agave and spread it on a rice cake.
Thanks Ribbit! I like the last idea the best. Do you know how much ghee and agave to carob powder? Is it a 1 to 1 ratio or is it just a matter of taste and consistency? |
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| Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:57pm |
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Hi,
I have a lot of hormonal problems already and the signs are pointing to xenoestrogens as the main cause. I have just last month gotten rid of all possible contaminating food containers and water bottles (my diet should be pretty clean already, as an O-nonsec turned explorer)
Aside from eating more carob, cranberries, garlic, is there anything else an explorer can do to help their liver get rid of xenoestrogens?
I have tried Lorna Vanderhaeghe's EstroSense since early December, but I haven't noticed any significant difference yet (early June) and a lot of the main ingredients I was already taking with the explorer supplements anyway (calcium d-glutarate, milk thistle, tumeric). I am concerned about the lycopene but maybe it is far enough removed from tomatoes that it won't be a problem for me explorer diet? I don't know. I have started detoxing again as of a couple of months ago but I also started taking Deflect-O twice a day since January and I would expect that to have a good detoxing effect. Any ideas? |
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