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aprilshowers
Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:48pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I've run right up against how the stress factor can mess up my digestion, after receiving devastating family news this past weekend.  I still consider myself a recovering stess eater and this weekend I fell off the wagon and into a bag of peanuts, and then another unfortunately.  Yesterday additional news tied my stomach in a knot that is still there this morning.  I can completely understand why Dr D recommends not to eat under stress, it's just that if I don't - I feel like I'm going to KILL someone!  Overeating has always been the way I self-medicate and care for myself in difficult situations.  Now I know this isn't taking care of myself at all, but here I am falling back into old bad habits and feeling absolutely miserable, both emotionally and physically.  Plus, I have to go away for the weekend, can't get out of it, and will have to haul my own food along.  Good news is that it's a scrapbooking retreat at a camp up north on an island where the fall colors should be at peak.  I'm hoping for lots of down time, paths for walking, time alone which I so need (ISFJ).  But any suggestions on what to take along to get my digestion back on track would be welcome.  Or, better yet what I can do now to get back on track before I leave - have 1.5 days!  I so wish I could take the day off today, but I already have tomorrow off and only one vacation day left and already planned.


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Thursday, October 2, 2008, 1:03pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Are you personaly allergic/sensitive to peanuts? They are a diamond for Warriors.
If you can share the bad news or if it is a death, can you share on the RIP thread in Little Fishes?
You know how supportive this group is. We care & don't judge.
Enjoy your weekend! I'm sure it will be a nice release from the stress.


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Thursday, October 2, 2008, 1:46pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Practice your relaxation techniques and up the vitamin C. Yoga, martial arts, meditaion and deepbreathing.
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Sometimes I'm about ready to go out a buy a punching/kicking bag, for times like that.  Martial Arts does help, both with the stress and the self-control to avoid the stress eating.  I needed something more challenging than relaxing, something with goals and where I really can just beat something up from time to time.  The social outlet of a women's class is a nice side-benefit.


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aprilshowers...sounds like the best thing for you this weekend is the retreat for scrapbooking.  Yes...bring your own compliant food.  I do, wherever I go, and it is so much better.   I know when I get stressed that eating the right way is the best way.  I can always get into the heavy, sweaty exercise to help me out when I have to.  As Lloyd mentioned...for you...relaxation techniques are best.  It is so easy to fall back into our old ways.  I hope you do well this weekend.

Mrs T O+...peanuts may be a diamond food for warriors, but too much of a good thing is not good.  Especially nuts.  

Debra


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aprilshowers
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I always thought it was just me - I seem to get so easily distracted.  Anybody out there know of "FlyLady"?  I'm DEFINITELY a SHE (side-tracked home executive)!  Except it's not at home, but everywhere.  I'd be curious to know how many SHEs have type A blood type.

Anyhow, I've been trying to come up with a good way to relax while at work.  Taking a 20 minute break in the AM and PM is not possible with my job.  I simply cannot walk away from my desk and leave the building for that amount of time twice a day.  

Yesterday while shopping I came across one of those CD trees where you can press and listen to the music.  There was a CD labeled for stess relief and it's the type of music my massage therapist plays during a massage.  This is lovely piano instrumentals and is perfect for listening to at my desk!  I have my headphones on right now and I'm already noticing how it's helping as I'm actually aware of my taking deeper breathes.

Music definitely soothes the savage beast of stress!  At least today it is!  


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april ..go for your own chants ...even internally


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alternate nostril breathing!


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I am older and it is my experience that stress can be addressed temporarily by any number of things like foods, drugs, and activities like exercise or yoga or even meditation and relaxation techniques. There are the tapes or CDs we see advertised and it sounds like you have used these. Just the same, unless we are quite unique, the discomfort will usually return at various times in our life. It seems that until the root cause of stress has been looked at and removed through insight, it will keep occuring. We want things to be different than they are, which creates stress.  

Though it is no substitute for extended sitting meditation practice, you can do a technique that may keep you less glued to your discursive mind where the constant chatter and analysis keeps you upset. It is very simple but may take time to learn. It goes like this. Place your awareness on the feelings of your body, its relative temperature, weight on the chair or floor, feelings of your clothes on your skin etc. then alternate between that and the sense of sight, colors textures shapes in front of you. Use the breath to alternate the awareness back and forth. Out-breath awareness on seeing, in-breath on bodys feeling. You can experiment with other senses instead of seeing like hearing sounds, tones and texture not what the sounds mean or even smells and tastes. The idea is to use these senses to stay in the present. When we wander in the thoughts and the petty gossip of our minds we tend to suffer.

I hope this helps a little.  Let me know how it goes on a PM or email if you prefer.

Robert





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RRRRrrrbbbi, I need your feelings in here ....now!!! in this second!!! .....
fffttt... ya know as me, that this isn't just possible... NF's are different to NT's and SP^s are working with SJ's... hey babe
you are looking for the wilde side... hey... babe....doud...a doud..a doud..hey babe you^re looking for the wild side...
babe:  Robert the circonflex is just the point sur les I__: I's
old friend I missed you soooo much even with our communicative probs...
xoxoxox from Isa


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Isa,

Content is not form. Form is always content. There never has been a problem with our communications. Everything you say is perfect and is in-line with what is.

muwaa!!

Robert


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merci of your kind words and also statement above,I do that with awareness of my breath to get my chattery brain calmed ......


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I do not do good on peanuts at all, I believe it is either mold or an additive.  Stay on the warrior diet, you will feel stressed out the first week or so but like the book says you need to learn how to relax.  It's essential in my recovery.  What works wonders for me is walking everyday.  
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I had a power-walk last night and another one this evening.  I'm feeling great.  I need that fresh, cool air.


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I'm new to the forums but with BTD since 2000. I am wondering if in the past there has been any discussion as to whether the gene for PTSD[FKBP5] and the gene for anxiety sensitivity[5-HTT] are prevalent[not exclusive] in the blood type A person?In reading so many of the posts but especially this thread on Stress I am thinking so many would benefit from Dr. Elaine Aron's work on the Highly Sensitive Person. On her website you can find her newsletter,"Comfort Zone" and I think you will just smile to read about yourself in a new way.Most recent months has had an article on raising the HS teen.Dr. Aron's work you will find to be consistent with Dr. D's in so many ways.Especially in regards to genetics, cortisol,and stress.The August issue speaks to the archetypes[Jung].

For those just exploring stress reduction through meditation and find you are actually becoming more tense it is probably due to using Eastern "void" type meditation.On pg.186 of LRFYT Dr. D talks about Winston Churchill "resting" parts of his mind by using other parts.About 20 yrs. ago I discovered that listening to guided imagery did just that. While I listened and followed the guide it did keep my gerbil mind busy while the rest of me fell into a deep peace.The very best guided imagery in the business comes from Bellruth Naprostak.All of her offerings are well researched.Her PTSD cd is used by the VA as well as other hospitals.

Sorry I don't have exact we addresses at hand but both are easily searched by name.I hope some of you will gain further insight into your crazy,wonderful selves!


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welcome Boedica!
use the search engine on home page......you ll find lots of info on all these issues you talk about
http://www.dadamo.com/search.htm


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Hi Boedica,
I'm glad you are posting on the Forum.  

I found the ideas very interesting, regarding those two approaches to meditation:  #1.  the mind void, and #2.  the use of a different part of the mind than is normally used.

I can see how different types of people might benefit from one as opposed to the other, and I'd never thought of it in this way before.  So thanks!!

Some people seem to be wired so that they are not able to do silent meditation.  "Replacing" the chattering thoughts with something else, is one successful way of dealing with this kind of mind.  I believe the Eastern practice of Mantra repetition would fit this category;  Or the Zen Koan;  Or the contemplations practiced by the Christian mystics.  Maybe painting a picture or taking a long walk, or playing with a kitten, puppy or baby!

There is a story that goes like this:
The elephant was walking through the village on his way to the water hole.  His trunk was busy getting into trouble, picking up fruit from the merchant's counter, knocking over the vase from a window, hitting the back of the lady's head,  spilling the jug of milk on the table of the cafe'.

Finally the elephant boy ran up to the elephant and handed him a nice stick.  The elephant wrapped his trunk around it and calmly walked on, leaving the other distractions behind.

The moral of the story?  It is the nature of the trunk to be always busy, grasping at whatever is within reach.  If you want the trunk (mind) to be still, give it something else to hold.  



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Boedica, by PTSD....do you mean post traumatic stress disorder?


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Yes Ribbit I did mean post traumatic stress disorder.And Victoria ,yes , I do believe most of the practices you mentioned could serve the purpose of busying part of the mind/body so the rest of the mind/body can relax and recouperate. Some of them could be challenging to the person who cannot settle down to do even those practices which will heal.

I actually had combed all of available material you referred to Lola but couldn't quite nail down the initial gene question. I'm sure in time all will be answered.

Thanks so kindly for your responses.I am a computer illiterate yet I think these forums are just the best.


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The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!

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