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Mayflowers
Monday, October 6, 2008, 2:00pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Quoted from jayneeo
aren't they really bouncing
....Oh! (just checked out Lola's link!!!).....hmmmm. Too bad, cuz TM has done a lot of good in this world.


Actually, they're not. They actually levitate. David Blaine would just walk up to someone on a city street in the middle of the sidewalk or street and say, "Hey, wanna see something?" and he'd just levitate 6 inches off the ground and people would be putting their hands over him and under him looking for wires..

Chris Angel does the same thing, levitates out in the middle of nowhere. You can't rig wires that way. They probably learned it from yogis.  

Lola, that's probably right about TM. The meditation of TM is very common in India. It's using a mantra. It's a money making business. That's why I won't go back. I told my ex, that I learned it when my mother passed away (hey, I was distraught) and he was really angry that I paid them to learn a mantra meditation..Oh well.. I can be naive..

However, TM has been shown in clinical studies to lower blood pressure, increase health, lower insidence of ca, and people who practice TM or meditation are healthier, happier, have no depression and live longer. So all in all meditation in any form is very important for health.
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However, TM has been shown in clinical studies to lower blood pressure, increase health, lower insidence of ca, and people who practice TM or meditation are healthier, happier, have no depression and live longer. So all in all meditation in any form is very important for health.


So true Diana!!!!

Beautiful your new sig fairy purple...


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We don't need to pay anyone money in order to learn to meditate.  There are so many great websites, DVD's, books, and friends to compare notes with.



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Thank you Raquel..Purple is my fav color.  
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We don't need to pay anyone money in order to learn to meditate.  There are so many great websites, DVD's, books, and friends to compare notes with.


I agree  

http://www.sahajayoga.com is one of this!!!


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In 2001 my mom passed away and we had her cremated.  Her ashes were not buried right away and I had the chance to spend some time with her this way for over a year.  One of the things I had always wanted to do was to show her what I had accomplished in Tai Chi, but since she passed away before I was able to, she never saw me do it.  

For one class, I brought my mom's ashes in her little wooden box and asked the teacher if we could do some tai chi so that I could 'show' her even though she had passed on.  One of my girlfriends is really connected with these kinds of things and I had called her to make sure that she was there.  There were about 12 of us in the class and the instructor was honored to do this for me.  For the whole class we focused on relaxation and doing bits of tai chi here and there and becoming one.   About 3/4 of an hour before the class was over (it is a three hour class), we were all in a circle when the instructor had us start doing the form.  It was absolutely amazing.  The group was so connected it felt like we were one.  We continued to do the form three times in a row and then he told us to relax.  He kept talking quietly to keep us all focused and then after about three minutes he called (rather abruptly) my girlfriends name.  At first, I thought it was because she may have been talking, but when I talked to her later she said that she felt like she was levitating.  Not sure why the instructor stopped her from doing what she was doing, but I don't think he knew what to do as it was probably the first time he had seen this happen.  He would never talk about what happened.  

I don't meditate as much as I should either, but when I do it is like I go to another place.  Almost a shame to come back to reality.

Debra


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I have the book Relaxation Response and this was my first form of meditation that I will often fall back on. I latter tried another form were you try to completely empty the mind and not think of anything at all, once again by concentrating on your breathing. All thoughts that come up are pushed away till all you are doing is concentrating on breathing in an out. I have found it almost imposible to prevent thoughts from poping up at a constant pace, it is amazing how the mind can be so busy in such a relaxed situation. It can also be very interesting the things that can come up. In the end it winds up being an exilerating learning experience.
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I'd like to say that your motivation for doing what we are all calling meditation will help you determine what you are really up to. If you just want to relax or temporarily calm yourself, then a simple practice of just sitting still and watching the body and breath for 10 or 20 minutes a day will suffice. Maybe with the help of a book or dvd, to get encouragement and guidelines.

On the other hand, if ones motive is to follow the spiritual path, to transcend the personal self or ego and even have a direct perception of the fundamental nature of what is called reality, then longer periods of practice (years even decades)may be necessary. Because the sidetracks leading to various forms of spiritual materialism are great, the help of an experienced teacher will probably be required.

I say this as person who has studied and practiced Buddhism and meditation under the guidance of several teachers for 35 years. I also currently teach meditation to inmates in Michigan state prisons.


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I ve missed your Haiku poems Bob!


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making a poem
or not making a poem,
this gray morning sky..




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Nice post, Robert. ( appreciate the haiku.)
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Thanks, Robert!  Keep 'em coming.  



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orange cat vanishes
into the fall foliage
wait, he peeks back out..




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Wait, wait.  Don't we have a Poems thread that Robert used to fill up with his creations?

I like that one about the orange cat, btw.  Our cats play in the fall foliage and we get a kick out of burying them in leaves and watching them leap straight up out of the middle of a pile.


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I'm just reading the newest book from Deepak Chopra about the *Bouddha*....
here also my *holy sentences* are mentioned..... ;)
be aware what you are not.....
becoming a non-person.....

shows clearly psychologically that Bouddha has been a 5 in the enneagram ;)...as my old teacher was and as I am as his pupil...
so my old teacher Jean Klein gave and taught me with my psychological keywords in being a 5 and recognizing it, stopping all kinds of restistances for life; just accepting it as it comes to me and hey Isa see that it is ok ;)   another form of letting go of the Ego ....
and then the little ideas and looking   wow how beautiful is the state of meditation and also coming back into that world without being involved.....great folks just great coz it doesn't need  to deny your feelings but only demands not stepping into your own illusionary traps  
the stage of carefulness without any desire is amazing  
omG just could embrace the whole world...

p.s.
can't deny there must be some guidancies ....and feel fascinated from the idea and pic. to see Bouddha under the help of the cobra ;)  can't find any sculpture here :-/


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Hi Isa here 1-5 or 5-1 I feel that that gentleman called time has helped to integrate my energy as Yoga and meditation (prayer as a lukewarm believer, raised in Catholic faith, but personally loving theological and ethical, philosophical issues).
Do you remember Martha and Mary in the Gospel with Jesus guest ?  I would be just trying to address great theoretical issues and I would like not to be distracted  by routine duties, housework and this is my greatest difference as a child, Now I am a little more into real world of most people, but I want to have a refuge "Far from the madding world " to quote Thomas Hardy.
A big hug and have a nice Sunday !
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dearest half of mine Maria Giovanna thanx for your fine statement and I do feel similar ...we so share the E and I's in our NT' ess ....depends of the %centages....
a bit monastic and Jeanne D'Arc- wise.....
have a fine sunday you too and feel tremendiously embraced by yours amiga Isa


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I hope it's all right if I throw prayer into this discussion.  That, to me, is calming and makes me feels complete.  It brings all the stray parts of my mind together.  In this way I'm not facing life by myself but I have the best help I can think of.
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I hope it's all right if I throw prayer into this discussion.  That, to me, is calming and makes me feels complete.  It brings all the stray parts of my mind together.  In this way I'm not facing life by myself but I have the best help I can think of.


Sounds good to me...I've always had a strong connection to a higher power...I learned this
from my dad who always spoke directly to God...and told everyone he ever met that God
answered him.....that he could have a regular dialogue any time he wanted... It was like this belief system I had as a child...that transcended religion.. I knew I could find God in my bathroom if I chose to look for him there...I always found God in trees....I know this sounds strange...but my affirmations from God would always appear in trees....The leaves would
move or a branch would sway...some active energy would always appear to me from a tree
when I spoke directly to God...  I always loved believing I was being acknowledged.  It's a very comforting feeling.

I agree NewHampshireGirl...prayer is calming and reassuring...and always give me focus too!

So, I'm throwing out this question to anyone who wants to answer...Is prayer important to you?




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God is more often in the bathroom than he is in churches, in my opinion.  Not bashing all churches, but a good many of them.


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I think you can commune with God in most places, except places you shouldn't be.  I wouldn't expect to feel much of a connection in an adult bookstore or in a nightclub, for example!
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TJota, I agree!!!

Ribbit , of course all depends of the churche,
once I went to a churche where were speaking about politics (no about God), finally I finished so stress


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The entire point of the early church was to build up and encourage.  Where is that today?  Okay, maybe I shouldn't ask that and open another can of worms.

Back to meditation and relaxation....Can you meditate (technically) while walking?  Or do I have to be sitting or laying down with my eyes shut?


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