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 Are you interested in your family history?
Yes. I've researched my genealogy. (31 votes)
54.39%
Yes. I want to learn more about my family's past. (21 votes)
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No, I live in the present. (5 votes)
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Jenny
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Hi Ribbit, that is great. I would love to find such an interesting precursor for myself, and the most likely is that an Irishman got into the Scottish mix at some point   (shows up in my brother's Y  chromosome typing on our paternal surname).
But in your case, if it is 3 or 4 generations back that's only 1 in 32 or even 1 in 64, so no wonder you show up as what you mostly are!



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Been doing genealogy since I was 13, got hooked after a young womens activity. My mother's side is Scot-Irish and I have relatives who participated in the revolutionary and civil war on both sides. I have Cherokee way back in those lines too. Also my line criss crosses the way they do in the hills of tennesse. On my Dads side we are immigrants naturalized in 1905?? I have to look at the certificate again from my father's GGGrandfather. I am Finnish or Scandinavian-suspect Lappland -I get great tan each year and look like I ahve one even when I don't, I have dark skin compared to my husband. I love the way I can access info online from home instead of having to drive to salt lake city to the family history library. It's is fun.

I have also done extractions to put information online from both death and birth certificates, that is neat. Alot of the people who are my age think genealogy is for old people not for young people, kinda like crochet and knitting.  


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BohemianChris,

Fascinating story- it makes you wonder- one of my best friends has a son- dark skin dark hair and the rest of the family is red, blonde and green eyes, and I'm 100% sure there's not another father.  Sometimes, genes like this just pop up, and most Americans think that everyone should be eating the same.  But your situation (your B blood) is so exciting- you've turned into a little geneology detective, if you will.

Found out from my grandmother before she died that we are Choctaw (which cracks me up b/c I have red hair and green eyes), but so many other nationalities as well- Irish, German, English, Choctaw, and on my husbands side (everything that I am not) Chezch and Italian.  So, good luck on your journey.  You have come sooooo far.

I think geneology and the blood type diet are in a way related b/c you are learning about yourself and even though you can't eat like your mother or how you were raised, you have learned that you are "special" and have to eat like your blood type- which right now is a mystery, but maybe someday you'll find that link.  If not, it's all good- at least you know how to eat to be healthy.  Good luck!



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O+ Nonnie Hubby
A+ Nonnie  son
O+ Nonnie  son
Dad A+ died at 62 of heart attack, Mom A+
Paternal Papa A+ died at 61 of pancreatic cancer
Pat Gma O- lived til 92
Mat Papa A+,  had first heart attack at 43, then at 62, lived to 85
Mat Gma O+  86, dimentia
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Some of you may be interested in one of the following books by Chris M. Reading, M.D.

1. Your Family Tree Connection
2. Trace Your Genes To Health

They explain how to draw up a family tree with known, diagnosed illnesses marked on it, along with symptoms and signs that  family members have experienced.


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Quoted from md
Some of you may be interested in one of the following books by Chris M. Reading, M.D.

1. Your Family Tree Connection
2. Trace Your Genes To Health

They explain how to draw up a family tree with known, diagnosed illnesses marked on it, along with symptoms and signs that  family members have experienced.



You can also find information online to help you draw up your medical family tree.
http://www.nsgc.org/consumer/familytree



Sirach 37:27
For not every food is good for everyone, nor is everything suited to every taste.



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all this past and present family history needs to be filled out for swami....


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Great Grandparents on Dad's side all from Denmark

Kuhre (my paternal grandfather)(from Bornholme- an island between Sweden and Denmark) there are still lots of Kuhres there. hey must have been upper class because the earliest reference for the surname I could find is 1600s. The working class folks kept the tradition of naming that used the father's first name= Jens+sen = Jensen, Rasmus+sen = Rasmussen (or Rasmusdatter). Grampa's mother was a Fredricksen.

My paternal gramdmother was a Rasmussen (by then it had become a surname) and her mother was a Jensen. They were from Odense.

I think most of my genes come from that side-- more specifically from my maternal grandmother.

A few years ago the Danish relatives on her side got in touch with us and that's how I learned a lot of our family tree. Despite all of my searching and asking questions all my life I was never able to find out much.

Great Grandparents on Mom's side all from Hungary.

My two sisters are both Bs like my mom. As far as we can find out they all came from NE Hungary, in the mountains, but no one knows how far back. I was able to travel there in 2007, and met my mother's mother's people. Most did not speak English, which was frustrating, but they were very welcoming, salt of the earth kinds of people.

I have been wanting to do the National Geographic thing for a long time, but never had the $$.

Great thread... This kind of thing fascinates me.
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My Polish great grandfather who was a count married an Armenian woman and had two children. Then the great grandfather who was a consort of Edward the vii ran away with another woman to South America. The wife returned to Turkey to live with her sister. The son fell in love with his cousin and they married and gave birth to my mother. So my mother was 1/4 Polish and 3/4 Armenian. My father was 3/4 Scotch-Irish. He taught English to Syrian soldiers as his service in the second war and met my mother while teaching at an English college in Istanbul. I was conceived in the seat of civilization but was born in a town of 500 in the Ozark mountains. I'm confused.

My mother was a "vi-countess". A couple of years ago i found out that as a child of a vi-countess i also have a title;  "the honorable....." So i started using that title when i joined aarp. They thought i was a judge.

I'd like to know where the rh neg factor came in...from the polish side or the amenian side. My mother is o neg as i am. Her brother is ab neg. Is there a way to figure that out?


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what a story!!!


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Interesting stories

Bekki Shining Bearheart
It is Bornholm ( without an e ) - lovely place

Interesting name Kuhre- very unusual.
It is a bit complex this thing about names ( family names) in Denmark
Until 1828 all got names after their father- like I would have been named Ivars-datter or Ivar-sen ( if I was a boy)- but in 1828 the law about fixed names came- however especially the farmers would´nt follow it so they contineud to give their children family names after the father,
However after 1856 it did become the law to keep the new fixed name.

so we did intil the 1980´s when stuff got mixed up again- people started to take new family names- mybe their grandparents or the womans maiden name- a bit confusing .
In my family;
my mum is a Nielsen
I am a Olsen
My daughter is a Redmond
and my step dad a Weisbrod.  



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I haven't researched it myself but a busybody aunt who married into the family has a graduate degree insomething like that. She said that on my Dad's side the family originally was from the scottish lowlands. Since then english and some others married into the family including a Choctaw woman named Running Deer in the early 1800's. On my mother's side all I know is that she said we have french, irish, and possibly english on that side.  P.S my family name ,though a scottish clan name, indicates to me that prior to scotland we probably were from Denmark but there is no data to support that conclusion other than the name.
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Well Danish and Norwegian ( almost the same at that time and really now as well ) did put a lot of words  and blood and dna into the English  when they occupied Danelaget /Danelaw in North and East England - and on the Shetland isles and Orkney Isles lots of Norwegian as well. so who knows? GCG we might be related  


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Probably where the B gene came from.
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not that many B´s in this part of the world


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Henriette-- thanks for correction and additional info.

Sometimes I get carried away when I get to typing, also Danish isn't my first language!! (or even my second one).

Does anyone know what the major blood type of the Sami people is? maybe the B came from there. I know that there has been intermarrying of Sami with Scandinavians in Norway and Sweden at least.

But my anthropologist husband say that we often assume that racial gorups are pretty pure in their homeland.

We forget that since even before medieval times, there was a lot of movement of people... You could walk across Europe in a year, quite easily. What with trading and so on, people traveled a lot.

And there is this:
URUMQI, China - After years of controversy and political intrigue, archaeologists using genetic testing have proven that Caucasians roamed China’s Tarim Basin 1,000 years before East Asian people arrived.

The research, which the Chinese government has appeared to have delayed making public out of concerns of fueling Uighur Muslim separatism in its western-most Xinjiang region, is based on a cache of ancient dried-out corpses that have been found around the Tarim Basin in recent decades.

“It is unfortunate that the issue has been so politicized because it has created a lot of difficulties,” Victor Mair, a specialist in the ancient corpses and co-author of “Mummies of the Tarim Basin”, told AFP.

“It would be better for everyone to approach this from a purely scientific and historical perspective.”

The discoveries in the 1980s of the undisturbed 4,000-year-old ”Beauty of Loulan” and the younger 3,000-year-old body of the ”Charchan Man” are legendary in world archaeological circles for the fine state of their preservation and for the wealth of knowledge they bring to modern research.

East Asian peoples only began showing up in the eastern portions of the Tarim Basin about 3,000 years ago, Mair said, while the Uighur peoples arrived after the collapse of the Orkon Uighur Kingdom, largely based in modern day Mongolia, around the year 842.

“Modern DNA and ancient DNA show that Uighurs, Kazaks, Krygyzs, the peoples of Central Asia are all mixed Caucasian and East Asian. The modern and ancient DNA tell the same story,” he said.

...The Yingpan Man, discovered in 1995 in the region that bears his name, has been seen as the best preserved of all the undisturbed mummies that have so far been found.

Yingpan Man not only had a gold foil death mask -- a Greek tradition -- covering his blonde bearded face, but also wore elaborate golden embroidered red and maroon garments with seemingly Western European designs.

His nearly 2.00 meter (six-foot, six-inch) long body is the tallest of all the mummies found so far and the clothes and artifacts discovered in the surrounding tombs suggest the highest level of Caucasoid civilization in the ancient Tarim Basin region.
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if you want more on ancestry and GT and how they all came to be, read Dr D s monographs of each GT up at the NAP store website.

beginning with yours!
http://www.4yourtype.com/explorer.asp



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Sami /Lapps:     29% O type     63% A type     4% B type     4% AB
( Quite interesting considering their diet of few vegetables- but lots of cheese, yoghurt etc made from reindeer milk, fish and some reindeer meat.


so I don´t think it is from there

In Europe groups with high levels of B types are ;

Gypsies, Baltic countries; Russia and Poland, Tatars
In my family the B come from my paternal grandmother who has roots in in Eastern Europe so no surprise there  

YEP it is sooooo interesting with the caucasian finds in China   I did read about them and that type of finds makes me want to use my BA in pre historic archeology again.


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Quoted from Henriette Bsec
Sami /Lapps:     29% O type     63% A type     4% B type     4% AB
( Quite interesting considering their diet of few vegetables- but lots of cheese, yoghurt etc made from reindeer milk, fish and some reindeer meat.


so I don´t think it is from there


Most of the A's are probably A2. If I remember correctly double the number in the USA. About 20% of A's are A2 in North America.


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Most of the A's are probably A2. If I remember correctly double the number in the USA. About 20% of A's are A2 in North America.


Thanks - I think you are right  
and then reindeer milk ( unpasturized )
is something completely different than "dead" koneventional pasteurized cow milk


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Hey one ought to check dr d first  
The Lapps

The Lapps are an ethnic group living in northern Norway, Sweden, Finland, and north-western Russia. Some are reindeer herders and some are fishermen. They are on the whole of caucasoid appearance but with a very slight mongoloid tendency. They speak a Finno-Ugric language closely related to Finnish, but regarding this there are two points of view. One is that they formerly spoke a non-Finno-Ugric language now lost, and adopted Finnish which in the course of time became modified. The other is that their original language was a Finno-Ugric one, but belonging to the Ugric sub-family; this however became modified by the very large-scale adoption of words from the language of their neighbours, the Finns. This distinction is an important one with regard to their possible relationship to the Samoyeds.

The Lapps have been very thoroughly studied from the point of view of blood groups. They are almost unique in their high frequency of A and totally so in having the highest A2 gene frequency known, reaching 42 per cent in one group tested. In this respect they are super-Caucasoids, for the A2 gene is almost entirely confined to caucasoid and negroid populations in whom it is however mostly below 5 per cent and only extremely rarely exceeds 10 per cent. (15)


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I am half finnish with some Sami or Lapp ancestry. I have tan (as compared to my husband, the great white wall) most year round. I tan very dark and easily in the spring and summer. My Father and his uncle are and were very much like me, dark skinned.

BTW We are all O+ on My father's side. There may be some other variance, but I don't know about it. My mother was a A.


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This is a curious thread to me -- my father was 100% Dutch ancestry (all his ancestors emigrated from the Netherlands in the 1860s, to a heavily Dutch populated part of Michigan); and my mother... well... a mix of a lot of stuff, and we can't go back very far. We know more of her paternal background (more German) than maternal.

A former co-worker was an immigrant from Russia, and she looked like a white Asian -- like one of the above comments, talking about the Lapps, I think. She had straight, black hair, very Asian facial features, face shape, etc., but her skin tone was whiter than me. I didn't ask about her ancestry, but assumed she must have lived in a part of Russia that had gotten to mix with more with Chinese than Europeans.


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