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sivani
Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 3:39am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I would like to find more information about personality as it relates to blood type and if there is any research to support this.  I recently became aware that Japan uses blood type as a sort of psychological marker for hiring employees.  In a homogeneous society such as that there aren't too many other ways to discriminate or practice subtle forms of fascism - so it seems to be accepted.  They use it also as an astrology or horoscope kind of thing and most consider it superstitious but appreciate the system's references when it indicates fortune in their favor.  

While I have respect for Dr. D's work and research in genetics, physiology, and biology for the BTD, the medical community has little validation for it as a group.  Regardless, I take life as an experiment and the BTD works for me and apparently for millions.  Are we all just complacent under a superstition?  My doctor acknowledges that the diet has to be beneficial to many just because we are eliminating so many common allergens even if there is no correlation to blood type.  Good enough for me but I actually have respect for Dr. D's work and would love to see it get more recognition in his lifetime.  However, I am quite hesitant to use the astrological default mentality to accepting good advice on matters of the mind and heart, using an "if the shoe fits" sort of mentality when it comes to blood type.  Any info on valid psychological personality research or on any other bio-psychological studies that have been done would be well appreciated.  

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Angela,
there s a test you might want to do, but this site concentrates on antigens and how certain food reacts according to those antigens lining your gut.

here s something you might enjoy reading
http://www.dadamo.com/critic.htm
and Dr D s latest blog here above
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/.....es-not-even-?blog=24


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Personally, I agree with Dr. D that our physiology can predispose us toward certain personality traits, but I believe life experiences weigh much more heavily in determining how we interact with others and how we react/respond to stress.  Also, our level of spiritual growth has quite an impact.

Being a B, I take exception to the Japanese custom of believing BT = personality (since they think Bs are "lazy", "unambitious").
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Being a B, I take exception to the Japanese custom of believing BT = personality (since they think Bs are "lazy", "unambitious").

I take exception to that too and I'm not even a B.  DH isn't lazy--in fact, under great emotional stress I once called him a work-a-holic (which he didn't appreciate).  He has lots of ambition.  It would just be nice to see him follow through with one of them.


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Being a B, I take exception to the Japanese custom of believing BT = personality (since they think Bs are "lazy", "unambitious").


TJ, I love you but my son is lazy, and unambitious..
Might be something to that stuff

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MF, he's a teenager.  I know few hardworking teenagers.  My brothers worked hard only if they were being paid.


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Ribbit, he's messin with saskwatch..I talk to people who's teenagers do a lot more than my sons to help..he's especially inconsiderate of not having anyone else to help me do things around the house..He just sits there on his pc watching me trying to move heavy furniture..things like that..grrrr. Doesn't offer to help..
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he ll come around.....


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what was that in your given educations, Mayflower   ....did you pampered em too much....

and about's B's lazyness...I observed something completely different...coz of their easy way of going mentality they just won't
see the need to make further sacrifices for anything....and then... often given up too early.....I know that as well as being a half of theirs ....


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Quoted from Amazone I.
what was that in your given educations, Mayflower   ....did you pampered em too much....

and about's B's lazyness...I observed something completely different...coz of their easy way of going mentality they just won't
see the need to make further sacrifices for anything....and then... often given up too early.....I know that as well as being a half of theirs ....



Field marshall, eh Isa.

I know a lot of B's and none of them are lazy.  But...like you said Ribbit...some of them (my dad was one of them) need to follow through with their ideas.

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what was that in your given educations, Mayflower   ....did you pampered em too much....


Well, Dr. Isa, you're right yet again.. my mom did everything for them while I was working..picked up after them...It's great having another doc on the board to vent to! But he never show's any guilt. Is that a male thing or what?
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Well, Dr. Isa, you're right yet again.. my mom did everything for them while I was working..picked up after them...It's great having another doc on the board to vent to! But he never show's any guilt. Is that a male thing or what?


No...I have two daughters.   And...a hubby.

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DH isn't lazy--in fact, under great emotional stress I once called him a work-a-holic (which he didn't appreciate).  He has lots of ambition.  It would just be nice to see him follow through with one of them.

Dad is also a B+ like me, and was DEFINITELY a work-a-holic who got things done!  Nearly worked himself to death until he was disabled by a back injury. (That sounds familiar...)  I certainly drive myself harder than anyone else could drive me.  

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TJ, I love you but my son is lazy, and unambitious..

Aw, she remembered!  Maybe dad, Mr. Ribbit, and I are a few exceptions?

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MF, he's a teenager.  I know few hardworking teenagers.  My brothers worked hard only if they were being paid.

Then there's that.  I can hardly blame them for being "lazy", as much growing, changing, and adjusting as they do just by virtue of being alive.

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often given up too early...

I've been guilty of that...   but better now (hence the driving myself too hard!), because I recognize that tendency in myself.
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Quoted from Amazone I.
about's B's lazyness...I observed something completely different...coz of their easy way of going mentality they just won't
see the need to make further sacrifices for anything....and then... often given up too early.....I know that as well as being a half of theirs ....
I can relate to being lazy at times, but never on the job, always had respect for my employers and what they needed from me, especially now, since I'm self-employed - a great motivator! I've also been a work-a-holic, but it never lasts, can find no sense to it. I also relate to being easy going (to a fault), not making unnecessary sacrifices and giving up too early sometimes. But, I have also fought too hard and held on too long when it was futile, so maybe that's how we find our balance, some sooner than others.


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teri sound ok ,D....


well mylady Mayflowers...thanx for those flowers of being a doc..but sorry can't admit..I'm only a healthpractioner called
naturopath or quacky here in Switzerland it is similar to an ND but without any dr ...

drive 55... for that ....

the Debra's-roostersis' trauma *fieldmarshal* sweetpie..only the half of it... normally those are the ENTJ's  


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Personally, I agree with Dr. D that our physiology can predispose us toward certain personality traits, but I believe life experiences weigh much more heavily in determining how we interact with others and how we react/respond to stress.  Also, our level of spiritual growth has quite an impact.

Being a B, I take exception to the Japanese custom of believing BT = personality (since they think Bs are "lazy", "unambitious").


I agree with you, but obviously you look so calm, and almost all my friend Bs are like you, they usually dont lose self-control, dont like to fight and its a excellent quality!!! The world need that energy: balance....harmony...tolerance
I like that calm from the Bs...



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I've also been a work-a-holic, but it never lasts, can find no sense to it.

Yep, that's DH.  Back and forth, back and forth.     He's always saying, "It depends on the situation."


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So I am an ENTJ and Hunter O nonnie,
my husband is an ESTJ Teacher A sec
oldest son is an ENTP Hunter O sec
youngester son is an ESTx Hunter O nonnie.

I have a heck of a time trying to match the personality genotype thing to my family.  My Teacher husband has much more of a Hunter personality than I do, I have an "explorer" personality which comes close to the ENTJ way of looking at things, I am called Attila the Honey are work.

My oldest kid is very funny and easy going but hugely competitive and recently found his work ethic and the little one is totally easy within his skin and stubborn and is very mouthy and plays before he works.  

My husband and I are both workaholics and I would like to work until I cannot work anymore.  There was an article in the National Post this weekend about people who are working well past 80 and close to 90.  That is what I would like to do...

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This is what people should do.  My opinion.  DH says, "When people start working they die."  But, I guess he'd also say, "It depends on the situation."


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Being a B, I take exception to the Japanese custom of believing BT = personality (since they think Bs are "lazy", "unambitious").


I suppose we would all get angry if we were categorised. Like the AB personality thread  ....

I want to contribute my opinion about B's. I love them to bits and they bring balance to me.

Now....having said that and coming to what the Japanese say, here's my take. In my office there are 15 B's, 1 A and 1 O, that's me.

In my hubby's family (and we live the extended family concept) there are 20 Bs, 4 As, 4 ABs and 2 Os (MIL & myself).

In a Company where everyone is supposed to work and get results there is no place for complacency, or being a non starter despite fantabulous ideas. In the office all senior decision making posts are held by B's. And it's very, very frustrating to see ideas put forward with great enthusiam and 24hrs later it's forgotten. It's like the B's have the greatest fun thinking up ideas but when it comes to following it thro, no sir, nothing happens. The A & O get into a twist and usually the O ends up carrying through many of the plans. The A is in a perpetual state of getting ready and that means eventually missing the boat!

The 3 1/2 years on BTD & now GTD has made me aware that B's are unconventional and there are ways and means to sustain their interest to make all of their fab ideas work. And to get the max out of A's without them getting tired & stressed coz of their perpetually raised corisol levels, it's better to keep tasks small without any multi tasking involved. Since it is my own Company, I can afford to put into practise what I'm privy to: the idiosynchrasies of different blood types. But not all Companies can afford to show this level compassion & understanding. Therefore, after one or two tries, people generally conclude that B's are lazy.

On family outings (suggested by the B's)my MIL and I would be the first to get ready and have all the stuff nice & ready. The Bs just dont see why things have to be so organised  . Yes, we said we'll leave at 4pm, it's only 3:59, what's the rush? Many a flight, many a train we have missed, oh my! The A's then suffer from intense pressure and stress following such a mishap and they talk about for days on end, analysing and counter analysing. The ABs initially would support the Bs idea and then when things begin to get difficult (the Os pushing the Bs to hurry up, raised voices etc)they would just abandon ship. And remain withdrawn. And have no qualms talking to all and sundry about what happened within the 4 walls. The Os would have blown their top but by the following day all's well. These examples cited are only my personal experiences and it is in no way a blanket statement about all blood types   .

Do I think B's are lazy? No, not at all. We all just have different levels of motivation I guess.


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Aw, she remembered!  Maybe dad, Mr. Ribbit, and I are a few exceptions?


Yes, I did remember..Must be the GTD kicking in. lol.. (or the PS)..Dr. Croak sounds like an A..The way Ribbit describes him he just reminds me of Dr. D. (His thinking and logic)
You and dad are exceptions.. I must say that my son LOVES school. He's had years of perfect attendance and gotten awards.   His brother wants to smack him for that..lol.Ok, this is so weird..My B son started out being an affectionate baby and now he's kind of indifferent. My O son started out being unaffectionate and now he's hugging me and being considerate, like holding the door for me..   

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well mylady Mayflowers...thanx for those flowers of being a doc..but sorry can't admit..I'm only a healthpractioner called
naturopath or quacky here in Switzerland it is similar to an ND but without any dr ...


Hey, you're a Doc as far as I'm concerned..doc. Naturopath=Doc to me.    In my state, ND's aren't recognized either.   (stupid state)
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AC, you made me laugh!  You're so funny in the way you describe the different types.  I'm going to copy that and e-mail it to DH.  He'll get a kick out of it as well.  Because we have three different bt's in just our small family, I see this on an every-day basis as well and what you said was our family very accurately.


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In my hubby's family (and we live the extended family concept) there are 20 Bs, 4 As, 4 ABs and 2 Os (MIL & myself).

How on EARTH did you round up so many Bs?   Must be a lot of creativity and zany ideas flying around that place.

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Yes, we said we'll leave at 4pm, it's only 3:59, what's the rush?

Exactly what I was saying!   Used to be that me and dad couldn't get anywhere on time.  Now, I'm better at getting places on time, while dad is just less stressed out by NOT getting there on time.  I don't understand why it's such a difficulty for us....
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My mother and all her siblings are B's.  Out of the 5 of them, there's only one brother who's lazy.  All the rest are steady workers and consider a vacation working at adding another room on to their summer home or digging a well or chopping wood... anyhow, you get the picture.
My best friend happens to be a B and I find them to be one of the easiest blood types to get along with.
Just personal experience here people!  Not trying to get the O's, A's or AB's mad at me!  

Leanne!


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Not trying to get the O's, A's or AB's mad at me!  

I think you already did that. Just kidding.  You getting any more sleep?


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Hmm, well I'm chronically on time unlike my O sister. My family is about 2/3 B's and 1/3 O's and they are all hard workers. At work I do like have an A to handle the detail work but personally it seems like the A's at work can't see the future implications of something till it bites them. The O's at work seem to be the ones who get bent out of shape about something minor while the A's fret about it. Only one AB and she is a real drama queen. Gets the job done while she is going through her academy award performance though. All in all everybody is good for something.
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I think you already did that. Just kidding.  You getting any more sleep?


Nice!

Oh, some sleep here and there.  We're still awake about every hour or so throughout the night.  ***sigh***

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Blood type and genotype can be very powerful.  Everyone has good and bad traits and I caught someone on a lie based on my knowledge of the genotypes and I should of followed my instinct since my motorcycle was stolen that night by that person.  I think it was desperation of a type of person whose had it bad.  

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BTW, how's that situation w/ the job & motorcycle?
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  I think it was desperation of a type of person whose had it bad.  

That's a poor excuse for theft.  Now stealing a loaf of bread or some fruit if you're starving in a poverty-stricken country I can understand.  But stealing a motorcycle because your mom was a druggie and you don't know who your dad is....that's just an excuse and a poor one at that.  My opinion.


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Growing up somewhat isolated, it seems that my "genetic predisposition" is more expressed in me.

Realize, I am blond-haired, blue-eyed, fair skinned, wore glasses, tall-skinny. And I live in a land that is predominantly hispanic, so dark haired and skinned, commonly shorter, and culturally different. And add in that my parents came from Los Angeles and went to college, are school teachers, and had bizarre notions of how to raise their oddly named son in a land that demands conformity for acceptance, I found that I greatly lacked in socializing skills.

And knowing my disposition, I recognize those internal signals when I come across situations, and so better understand how to control the situations I enter into.

Then there is my AB friend. Poor guy has a bum arm and more or less the same physically as me, just with a normal first name. So he has grown up really isolated, and when I interact with him, he does display the "individualized thinking."

SO! How do you counter/fix this?

Well, add activities, diversify interests, and definitely add the "charitable acts." It does help in countering the odd "social pressures" you start feeling.

I think a lot of stressful experiences over the past few years has diminished my ability for memory and awareness (which the "Body Worlds 2" exhibit mentioned when looking at brains of people who suffer stress versus those who do not).

It is just hard to get this guy (I nickname him "the Hermit") to start putting the pieces together. Being 28 and living at home, no job, still playing video games and fixated on cartoons and movies, living with a Type A father who displays all the bad qualities of the personality, and trying to help him get off the anti-psychotics, it is a challenge, but there is no one else who can help him.
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Oh, some sleep here and there.  We're still awake about every hour or so throughout the night.


Wait till you hit my age. You think you don't sleep well now?
Something to look forward to. lol...but it's not so bad because I don't need as much sleep as I did in my thirties.
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I suppose we would all get angry if we were categorised. Like the AB personality thread  ....

I want to contribute my opinion about B's. I love them to bits and they bring balance to me.

Now....having said that and coming to what the Japanese say, here's my take. In my office there are 15 B's, 1 A and 1 O, that's me.

In my hubby's family (and we live the extended family concept) there are 20 Bs, 4 As, 4 ABs and 2 Os (MIL & myself).

In a Company where everyone is supposed to work and get results there is no place for complacency, or being a non starter despite fantabulous ideas. In the office all senior decision making posts are held by B's. And it's very, very frustrating to see ideas put forward with great enthusiam and 24hrs later it's forgotten. It's like the B's have the greatest fun thinking up ideas but when it comes to following it thro, no sir, nothing happens. The A & O get into a twist and usually the O ends up carrying through many of the plans. The A is in a perpetual state of getting ready and that means eventually missing the boat!

The 3 1/2 years on BTD & now GTD has made me aware that B's are unconventional and there are ways and means to sustain their interest to make all of their fab ideas work. And to get the max out of A's without them getting tired & stressed coz of their perpetually raised corisol levels, it's better to keep tasks small without any multi tasking involved. Since it is my own Company, I can afford to put into practise what I'm privy to: the idiosynchrasies of different blood types. But not all Companies can afford to show this level compassion & understanding. Therefore, after one or two tries, people generally conclude that B's are lazy.

On family outings (suggested by the B's)my MIL and I would be the first to get ready and have all the stuff nice & ready. The Bs just dont see why things have to be so organised  . Yes, we said we'll leave at 4pm, it's only 3:59, what's the rush? Many a flight, many a train we have missed, oh my! The A's then suffer from intense pressure and stress following such a mishap and they talk about for days on end, analysing and counter analysing. The ABs initially would support the Bs idea and then when things begin to get difficult (the Os pushing the Bs to hurry up, raised voices etc)they would just abandon ship. And remain withdrawn. And have no qualms talking to all and sundry about what happened within the 4 walls. The Os would have blown their top but by the following day all's well. These examples cited are only my personal experiences and it is in no way a blanket statement about all blood types   .

Do I think B's are lazy? No, not at all. We all just have different levels of motivation I guess.


AC, this post is great!

I heard to that Japanese think that B's "...like to try new things..."      
Could that be interpreted as "easily distracted"?



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In a Company where everyone is supposed to work and get results there is no place for complacency, or being a non starter despite fantabulous ideas. In the office all senior decision making posts are held by B's. And it's very, very frustrating to see ideas put forward with great enthusiam and 24hrs later it's forgotten. It's like the B's have the greatest fun thinking up ideas but when it comes to following it thro, no sir, nothing happens.


Oh AC this is but also a little close to the bone for me! I remember a comment made by my lecturer, she said: how are you going to find something to sustain your interest long enough to complete works and succeed- something along those lines, eek.
If i ever do find that, I will be extremely productive I know it, as I have a tonne of energy when things get started and it trails off just as quickly as it appeared   This applies to my relationships, work, ideas and dreams. Very close to the bone AC! I am glad you have found ways to keep your B clans interest sustained, you must be quite well regarded yourself by them too for giving them that- well done!

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The 3 1/2 years on BTD & now GTD has made me aware that B's are unconventional and there are ways and means to sustain their interest to make all of their fab ideas work.



Am I the only B hanging on the edge of my seat here??

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Ah...I didnt know there were responses to my ponderings !

Maldo, we might call it easily distracted, but in all honesty, they are having too much fun with their innate ability to visualise ! Remind me to think this way when I get frustrated with them next time

There was once a situation where my poor MIL & I had to ask the Bs to help with stringing 10kg of green beans. 15 of them would have made light work of the whole thing we thought. First batch was very fast, they made a game out of stringing beans   ...but 20 minutes later there was an unusual silence, so I checked...and there was just 2 A's toiling away. We didnt know the As had arrived...but the Bs had wandered off even before the A's arrived. I found a few Bs just lounging around, or gazing at the wall etc., When I asked them what happened to the green bean project they said they were taking a break. And the As were so worried that the beans wouldnt be ready in time, despite finishing stringing, washing, cut and put in the pot

My MIL wasnt amused with her B brood, and she was losing her cool with the gentle As for refusing to stop worrying. She was muttering "now we'll have to listen to the abandoned green bean project for one whole week". Reminding MIL of A's naturally high cortisol levels didnt help and for my own safety I decided to move away and take a break-just like the Bs

Oh Honeybee, you'll need to come here to witness it   O Hunters and A Teachers seem to be a B's dream processors. Again, just based on my family...



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I love where this thread is going!  I think Bs are natural "consultants".  We can look at problems with a current client, come up with brilliant solutions, then move on to a whole new situation.  Bs are better at leadership than management or toil.
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I bet you do love where it's going!

About Bs being consultants.....the Bs in my life know a lot of stuff.  Or at least they act like they do!   I'm always thinking, of my B friends, Oh, I should ask so-and-so this--they'll know.  And more often than not, they do know.  Or at least it sounds good anyway.


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Sounds like B's have it good: lots of good ideas, not to much hard work, and dairy products


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Sounds like B's have it good: lots of good ideas, not to much hard work, and dairy products

True, but it's hard for us to stay focused.  And it's not that I haven't had to do a lot of hard work, I just have more trouble staying on task.

I have a good working knowledge about a wide variety of things, and I like that, being "jack of all trades".  But the other half of the saying is true, too: "master of none".  It's hard for me to sustain interest in a field long enough to become an expert.  If I ever go back to school for a master's degree, I will have to be more careful what field of study I pick!  I admire Mr. Ribbit for his focus and perseverance in getting his Ph.D. in a very technical, challenging field.
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I think Bs are natural "consultants".  We can look at problems with a current client, come up with brilliant solutions, then move on to a whole new situation.
  
Absolutely spot on Drive!
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Bs are better at leadership than management or toil

I agree with the management & toil...but not quite the leadership bit ..


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Absolutely spot on Drive!

I agree with the management & toil...but not quite the leadership bit ..


haha - is a B's form of leadership closer to the  field marshall mentality?
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True, but it's hard for us to stay focused.  And it's not that I haven't had to do a lot of hard work, I just have more trouble staying on task.

I have a good working knowledge about a wide variety of things, and I like that, being "jack of all trades".  But the other half of the saying is true, too: "master of none".  It's hard for me to sustain interest in a field long enough to become an expert.
If I ever go back to school for a master's degree, I will have to be more careful what field of study I pick!  I admire Mr. Ribbit for his focus and perseverance in getting his Ph.D. in a very technical, challenging field.


Excaxctly
and that is why I have several degrees:
BA in prehistoric Archeology
Done most of my MA in modern history
Got a teacher degree

and now work with people whos got dementia... I am quite sure that Ill move on from that.

Well I am a good leader -( I am a LEO - and I just roar and every body shuts up )
seriously everybody always says I should be a leader ... but I dont know if I would not get bored too fast.


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I admire Mr. Ribbit for his focus and perseverance in getting his Ph.D. in a very technical, challenging field.


Well, it took him 7 1/2 years.  He said he was bored stiff and would literally never have finished if he hadn't gotten married.  He said it was a big wake-up call that he couldn't just sit around and spin his wheels and wrack up debt by traveling around the world every couple of years.  He suddenly had a pregnant wife who needed to eat and who needed a place to live that didn't have black, fluffy mildew growing on the walls.

So seven months after we were married he graduated and has job-hopped since.  He wanted to teach college biology, but everywhere he interviewed didn't offer hardly any more per year than what he was making in grad school   which was barely enough to live on.  So he gave up that idea.  He found out just how hard it is to get hired in your field when you have your PhD but can't afford to teach and refuse to do research.  Research bored him to tears.


But speaking of Bs, I have to add this about some of their better qualities.  My husband's father is a B.  He's got a terrible temper, but he's also just as sweet as can be--if you haven't pushed his buttons.  But this man is just plain lucky.  I don't even believe in "luck" per se, but this guy is lucky.  If he's driving, all somebody needs to say is, "Let's get a parking spot up close" and he'll say, "Alright" and drive up close, and there's a spot just waiting on him!  The entire family jokes that if anybody else were driving, that spot wouldn't have been there.  And if his baseball team needs a homerun, or the bowling team needs a strike, they'll say, "C'mon Bob, give us what we need."  He says, "Alright," and gives them exactly what they need.  It's so funny to watch.  He's the man for the moment.  When he fills out stuff that comes in the mail saying "Scratch off this and win big!" he scratches it off, sends it in, and does indeed win a monogrammed dog blanket or whatever.  Maybe he'll pass that ability down to his son one of these days!


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I agree with the management & toil...but not quite the leadership bit ..

I don't mean leadership in the conventional way, but more the way Steven Covey uses the term.  Leadership is identifying your guiding values, implementing those values into practice, monitoring practices to make sure they continue to follow values, and making course corrections on practices when they are out of line with your guiding values.  This can be applied in an individual's own life or in any organization.

HB, field marshall mentality?  I don't get it...

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Exactly
and that is why I have several degrees:
BA in prehistoric Archeology
Done most of my MA in modern history
Got a teacher degree

and now work with people whos got dementia... I am quite sure that Ill move on from that.

I had several majors: (in order) electrical engineering, microbiology, business, and finally psychology.  I only graduated in psychology because I was ready to just have my degree in my hand, but I'd lost interest at that point.  My interest in psychology has come and gone a few times times then.

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Well, it took him 7 1/2 years.  He said he was bored stiff and would literally never have finished if he hadn't gotten married.  He said it was a big wake-up call that he couldn't just sit around and spin his wheels and wrack up debt by traveling around the world every couple of years.

I nearly took that long for my bachelor's degree.  I wish I could have blamed it on "traveling around the world every couple of years" , but I CAN blame a lot of it on poor health.  I'm glad it didn't take getting married for me to get it together!  My dad (also a B) has told me that having a family depending on him enabled him to put up with a lot more than he would have when he was single--especially where work is concerned.  Also, he despises having someone looking over his shoulder all the time, and he stayed at a cr*ppy job with miserable pay (when he could have made a lot more elsewhere) because the boss there stayed out of his way and let him make his own schedule, as long as he got the work done.

Ribbit, that's pretty crazy about his father!  I don't believe in luck, either.
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DH skipped his master's.  He was struggling with health too, the entire time.  He was teaching school (before he went to UM) and there discovered the peanut allergy.  He said it was a terrible time for him.  Then over the course of the next couple of years he figured out gluten, eggs and dairy.  It was after we were married that I figured out he was allergic to corn.  Wow--I thought it was me he was angry at, until I fixed corn several times just to see what was going on after that initial spark of wonderment: was it the corn?  Yes....no doubt, it was corn.  Then it took a while to realize that Cuban restaurants use corn oil in everything, so we quit eating out much.  Getting those foods out of his diet cleared his mind enough to be able to think.  The next thing to remove from his diet was soy, but it would be another 2 years before we got a clue about that one.  Then the BTD was just like the answer to every question.  Oh, that's why you feel lousy when you eat that.  Well, no surprise.  We knew that.  We wouldn't have ever figured out chicken, but that was a big problem too.  Made him feel just as bad as if he'd had soy.  Corn is probably the absolute worst food for him.  It messes him up real bad.

Last business trip he went on he was fed chicken at someone's house.  When he told me he'd eaten it, over the phone, I was like, "Oh, no!  I mean, it's not like you can reject the food that's placed before you, but were you able to do your job?"  He said, "Yeah.  Being on the GTD has made my reactions to avoids much less."  

YESSSSS!


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HB, field marshall mentality?  I don't get it...



well I guess I am thinking only from my experience living and working with 2 other B's that we would not be very good leaders in our case as we would just duck around doing our own thing and love telling others what to do but we would probably realise we should have just done it ourselves anyhow - if we wanted it done right   I think leadership would be too much energy-wasted for us!
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I have an A friend married to a B, now I understand why he drives her crazy.  
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This could explain some things....
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