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 Do you take a probiotic supplement?
Yes, Dr. D's recommended one. (41 votes)
43.62%
Yes, One sold by another company. (36 votes)
38.30%
No, but I should. (9 votes)
9.57%
No, I eat plenty of yogurt. (5 votes)
5.32%
No, I don't believe it would help. (3 votes)
3.19%
94 Votes Total Last vote Saturday, July 19, 2014, 11:34am by NanJoy
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typebdiet
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Thank you for your feedback about the baker's yeast.
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I'm planning to switch to Teacher Activator when I need to order probiotics.

It's interesting that Teacher's are the only genotype with probiotics included in the suppliments.  I guess we are the ones with lots of uninvited guest.  

typebdiet - Brewers and Bakers yeast are Diamond foods for Teachers  so it must fight the bad guys.
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Quoted from purlgirl
I'm planning to switch to Teacher Activator when I need to order probiotics.

It's interesting that Teacher's are the only genotype with probiotics included in the suppliments.  I guess we are the ones with lots of uninvited guest.  

typebdiet - Brewers and Bakers yeast are Diamond foods for Teachers  so it must fight the bad guys.


That is very interesting...the Teacher's Activator contains probiotics.  I wonder if that could
mean that Warriors have no need for probiotics?  I have no idea what type of probiotic a
Warrior  would thrive on.  I'm still taking the Polyflora for type A...I've tried so many
of the ones in the health food store...They seemed to make me bloated.  NAP told me
there is a Warrior toxin in the Polyflora A...but I'm taking it anyway.  A bad thing?


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Did NAP tell you that you should not use the Polyflora A, Chloe?



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I have taken the Polyflora B in the past & found them very effective, just don't have the money for them very often. I have tried occasionally other varieties from chemists/health food shops but they don't seem the same.

You may find it interesting to know that a hospital in Swansea, South Wales is planning to undertake a study in the effectiveness of probiotics for older people to counterattack the effects of antibiotics. They will test 4 different strains. I wonder what the results will be, as  we all need different strains of bacteria depending on Blood Type, and I do not think they will be taking this into account!   But I think it's good that even mainstream doctors are starting to realise the drawbacks of antibiotics.


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Quoted from Victoria
Did NAP tell you that you should not use the Polyflora A, Chloe?


Here's the question I asked and perhaps you can make sense of the answer.
I called NAP...asked, "Does Polyflora A contain any ingredients that might be contraindicated if I'm following the Warrior diet?

(the reason I asked the question was because one ingredient, jerusalem artichoke is listed as
an toxin for Warriors.

The answer (after one person checked with another person)

"Yes, if you are following the GTD compliantly and want to avoid a known toxin for
Warriors, then the Polyflora A would contain a toxin".

The answer drove me crazy....It was like hearing that the one and only probiotic I ever
used that worked was now something I shouldn't use.

I tried many other probiotics for many months.  Went back to the Polyflora A because it
worked the best.  I cannot honestly believe that one tiny ingredient is going to invalidate my
general compliancy.  Still, it bothers me it's listed as a toxin for Warriors.

The fact that I'm blood type A and Polyflora A was designed for the BTD and not the GTD seems to be the issue, NAP told me.



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I'll bet Dr. D is working on it, .


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Might want to try the SWAMI express, and see if it classifies jerusalem artichoke as an avoid for you.

A polyflora A tablet contains 50 mg of jerusalem artichoke. This would mean you would need to take about 50 tablets to get the equivalent of eating a teaspoon of artichoke flour.


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Good tips from C_sharp.  

I wanted to mention that the Hunter Catalyst also contains probiotics.  Maybe others genotype formulas, as well.  I haven't checked them all yet.  
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I had to stop taking probiotics after a stool test showed some problems.  Apparently some probiotics can feed the bad bacteria as well as the good.  If you're in balance, then they're great, but it did serve as a bit of a wake up call that you can't just take them and expect great resuls.

I'll find the report tonight to give the name of the bacteria, but the interesting part was that you can still take prebiotics as they truly do only feed the good bugs.
I would have thought it's the prebiotics like inulin in Jerusalem artichoke that can feed bad bacteria. Probiotic strains on the other hand can react negatively with your BT if poorly chosen. The one I take is by another brand but is a single strain and compliant with my BT.



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Should I take a bifidus mix only supplement, or do I also need one that has acidophilus?
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I d take the polyflora for As


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I voted "no, I eat plenty of yogurt" because it was the closest, even though I don't actually consume yogurt, or any dairy product other than butter. But I do get my probiotics via fermented foods in my diet. I make beet kvass and fermented ginger carrots, and try to have 1-3 servings per day.


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I've read that consuming prebiotics (what your flora snack on) are more important than probiotics.  Perhaps it is the prebiotics like Jerusalem artichoke, burdock root, and chicory root in Dr. D'Adamos supplements that really make them effective.
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I get probiotics form my vitamins. I take the RAW kind made by Garden Of Life. I also drink alot of Good Belly (a probiotic drink) and since I am supposed to avoid all cow dairy I drink a goat's milk kefir with probiotics. I also take enzymes and I believe there are probiotics in them as well. Maybe I need to look up each probiotic individually and see if I'm making things worse.
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I personally got good results when I was taking Culturelle - http://www.amazon.com/Culturel.....338752763&sr=8-4 though my uncle (a Type A as well) did not seem to benefit from it but maybe he got a bad batch.  He also got the kind in the yellow box where as I got the veggie ones (green box).  Don't know if that makes a difference. He also has multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS) so that could have been another factor. Works for a lot of people though.

Here's more on the type of bacteria it contains - http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/LactobacillusGG.html
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I know probiotics should be taken on an empty stomach, but does anyone know if there are optimal times of the day it could be taken?
Also, I remember feeling great after eating Ricera, a rice based yogurt.  Might be worth checking out.
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^ I think it depends on the probiotic.  Some, such as the one I mentioned (Culturelle) can be taken any time, with or without food because it survives the stomach acid.  It really just depends on the type I guess.
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After reading all your posts it makes me worry about the probiotics I am taking from the grocery store.  Maybe I will look into the ones for O from Dr. D.


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Home-made fermented foods are by far the best probiotics source. I personally prefer water and milk kefir. Home-made fermented foods are very easy to make, are far cheaper than over-the-counter probiotics caps, and are the only way to ensure yourself that the probiotics you are ingesting are actually alive.

I always have a hard time believing probiotic capsules actually contain live cultures. Same holds for supermarket yogurts and commercial products like Yakult. Live bacteria need food and produce gas: that's why the packaging of spoiled products start to bulge, and that's why when making kefir yourself you can't keep it in an air-tight (glass) container because the container would then eventually explode! Those commercial products probably did contain live cultures once, but pasteurization processes likely killed (most) of them.

Do yourself a favor and learn how to make water or milk kefir. Not only will it give you thousands of times more live probiotics per serving, it is far cheaper as well; one starting culture of $5 will suffice for your lifelong probiotic needs. If kefir is an avoid on your SWAMI don't worry, that refers to milk kefir. Water kefir is beneficial for everyone. If you are worried about its sugar content just let the fermentation go on for 3 days or more; the kefir will taste very sour, but be very healthy too.

Best time to take probiotics is first thing in the morning (when stomach acid is at its lowest). If its kefir you're taking rinse your mouth with a glass of water to further dilute the stomach acid and to wash off the acids from your teeth.

PS. Forgot to mention: prebiotics are actually more important than probiotics. The probiotics in your gut need foods to stay alive, good sources are rice bran, oat bran and fruits. Taking probiotics on a daily base is very helpful and healthy, but theoretically it is unnecessary if you're consuming prebiotics. (There will always remain good bacteria in your gut, they just need enough food to multiply.)

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Quoted from Damon

I always have a hard time believing probiotic capsules actually contain live cultures.



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Bacterial spores are dormant life forms which can exist in a desiccated and dehydrated state indefinitely.
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Thanks for the information. But since there's no way to be sure those dormant bacteria actually wake up in the gut and start colonizing, kefirs and other home-fermented foods are still superior ~in my opinion.
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Thanks for the information. But since there's no way to be sure those dormant bacteria actually wake up in the gut and start colonizing, kefirs and other home-fermented foods are still superior ~in my opinion.


Quoted from wikipedia
1. Survive the gastrointestinal tract.
Indeed, under its sporulated form, B. subtilis R0179 is able to survive high acidic environment and resists to high concentrations of bile. A study performed using an in vitro model of the upper gastro intestinal tract shows that B. subtilis R0179 survives passage through the stomach and duodenum, with at least 80% recovery of live bacteria after the duodenum. Consequently, an optimal amount of the friendly bacteria is likely to reach their site of action and exert their benefits.


First search item I looked at. Home ferments may still be superior.
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This thread has been dormant for awhile.  Time to reawaken it.

I had been taking probiotics for years because logic told me I needed to. But I was convinced that they constipated me which was adverse to common wisdom.  I hopped right on the Polyflora AB a year or so ago when I switched over to NAP supps. I take 4/day first thing in the morning with all my other 'away from food' supplements.  Because I do my basic 4/BT and my GT/3 I also get the added benefit of the probiotics in GT formulas.  Along with ARA and Intrinsa I am experiencing happy gut health for the first time in my life.  

I am a test case for the beneficial effects of probiotics suited for our type--BT/GT.
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