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BohemianChris |
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 2:51pm |
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I see the probiotics offered by NAP are formulated by blood type. Is there data on the ratios of different microbe strains in the guts of healthy and diseased individuals and if so, is this information easily accessible? |
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Drea |
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 2:55pm |
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I take Polyflora A at night before bed (on an empty stomach). Two capsules help me to be regular (if you know what I mean  ). Without them I am only regular when I take high doses of magnesium. |
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Maria Giovanna |
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 3:00pm |
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I can just swear on Polyflora A as a wonderful and poweful probiotic. I ate some regular whe past and I am celiac and had a snack of a fruit jelly with nasty gums. I had the symtoms of a violent colitis and I could not have relief for some hours, when I took the few caps of Polyflora. the morning after I was doing far better and the evening I felt all OK. As I were in cruise it was really nice ! I can not say that the other probiotics are unuseful, but this was magic ! I use yoghurt with bifidus (mostly soy yoghurt) recommended for As daily. Maria Giovanna |
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Lola |
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 4:17pm |
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Chris, use the search feature on home page, adding the name of the different strains......wiki might have the necessary info you are looking for.... |
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teri |
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 4:42pm |
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Here is a Japanese study stating relationships found between different probiotic strains and ABO blood type. Some strains were identified as harmful to specific BT's but it doesn't show the ratio you are looking for... http://adsa.asas.org/meetings/2007/abstracts/0425.PDFSearch for "ABO" inside the document. |
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Mayflowers |
| Thursday, August 28, 2008, 12:44am |
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I seem to have a problem with probiotic supplements. No problem with yogurt or kefir. The supplements make the pain in my joints in my hands flare for some reason..OMG, you should have seen me after taking Garden of Life's Primal Defense!  With the soil organisms! I broke out in red spots all around my eyes and I still have a blotch from it that won't go away! I don't know what to do about it. I stopped the Primal Defense as soon as I saw the rash appear. The little red spots cleared up within a couple of days. I think I took it in March. |
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| Thursday, August 28, 2008, 1:44am |
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Ribbit |
| Thursday, August 28, 2008, 1:56am |
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OMG, you should have seen me after taking Garden of Life's Primal Defense!  With the soil organisms! I broke out in red spots all around my eyes and I still have a blotch from it that won't go away!
Wow, Mayflours, that's scary! |
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Rebecca_C |
| Thursday, August 28, 2008, 2:26am |
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I had to stop taking probiotics after a stool test showed some problems. Apparently some probiotics can feed the bad bacteria as well as the good. If you're in balance, then they're great, but it did serve as a bit of a wake up call that you can't just take them and expect great resuls.
I'll find the report tonight to give the name of the bacteria, but the interesting part was that you can still take pre-biotics as they truly do only feed the good bugs. |
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Curious |
| Thursday, August 28, 2008, 12:02pm |
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I had to stop taking probiotics after a stool test showed some problems. Apparently some probiotics can feed the bad bacteria as well as the good. If you're in balance, then they're great, but it did serve as a bit of a wake up call that you can't just take them and expect great resuls. I'll find the report tonight to give the name of the bacteria, but the interesting part was that you can still take pre-biotics as they truly do only feed the good bugs.
That is worrying. What are pre-biotics?  |
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Ribbit |
| Thursday, August 28, 2008, 12:44pm |
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Apparently some probiotics can feed the bad bacteria as well as the good.
Huh?  Yeah, I'd like to know more about that too. I mean, I've been taking probiotics of one sort or another since I was like 5. My mother had me taking them because she recognized my yeast infections for what they were and I've taken them off and on ever since. The results were minimal until I got on Dr. D's kind. They're the first to really do anything major. |
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| Thursday, August 28, 2008, 1:30pm |
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Lola |
| Thursday, August 28, 2008, 9:39pm |
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Curious |
| Thursday, August 28, 2008, 10:01pm |
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That is a great link - thanks IB! |
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italybound |
| Thursday, August 28, 2008, 10:15pm |
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That is a great link - thanks IB!
you're welcome.  |
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Rebecca_C |
| Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 10:15am |
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OK, sorry for the delay, but the bad bacterial overgrowth that I have bifidobacterium spp. Apparently having too much of it causes intestinal permeability issues (which I have) along with other absorption issues. Part of the treatment is to cease all probiotics then, if that doesn't help things we may have to resort to stronger treatments. The stool test was really useful. I apparently have an e.coli overgrowth as well. |
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| funkymuse |
| Friday, September 12, 2008, 1:57pm |
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Here's a question, if I take the Hunter Catalyst... I think I'm covered with Probiotics, right? Or do I need to add something else?
I'm thinking that each systems Supp's... BTD and GTD, are full and complete and that if we use these that we are covered in all the supplements Dr. D recommends for us, right? |
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Sky |
| Thursday, October 16, 2008, 7:13pm |
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My brother had picked up some soy probiotic powder and said it was too strong for him and gave it to me.
The first night I took it, I woke up feeling great the next morning.
A week later, I took some again, did not notice any change when I woke up.
My routine now is to take some echinacea tea during one day of the week, and that night drink the soy probiotic with some soy protein powder and soy milk (after the chamomile tea has worked it's way through my stomach).
My bubbling stomach only keeps me up a little at night. |
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Chris |
| Monday, October 20, 2008, 12:55am |
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I take polyflora. I remember being very impressed with how well it helped my digestive tract when I first started taking it. |
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Victoria |
| Saturday, October 25, 2008, 3:46am |
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I took Primal Defense a few years ago. The first bottle made me feel really great, and my digestion was strong and balanced. A little way into the second bottle, I began to feel a lot of bloating and intestinal pain. It got worse each day as I continued to take the supplement.
I went to my Naturopath, who asked what type of probiotic I was taking. When I told her, she said, "Oh, that explains it!" She went on to tell me that many of her patients were trying the formula and had a similiar experience. Her opinion was that there were too many different strains of microorganisms in the capsules. For a while, they improve the gut health, but then, they overpopulate and become counterproductive.
My next probiotic was Polyflora for type B's, and I've stayed with this one. I experienced a great easing of the internal battle, and a new level of internal comfort. The difference was very noticeable. It makes a lot of sense to me that each blood type needs a different assortment of organisms in the internal garden. One size does not fit all! |
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typebdiet |
| Saturday, October 25, 2008, 2:47pm |
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Just a question about the polyflora, at least the Polyflora B...
The ingredients include bakers yeast in them. If someone is sensitive to candida, how is having bakers yeast in a probiotic O.K.? Or does it somehow have to be included in the probiotic?
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ABJoe |
| Saturday, October 25, 2008, 10:23pm |
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Polyflora B...
The ingredients include bakers yeast in them. If someone is sensitive to candida, how is having bakers yeast in a probiotic O.K.? Or does it somehow have to be included in the probiotic?
The candida does not feed on yeast, it feeds on sugars... If viable, the baker's yeast will compete with the candida for the available sugar... My speculation is that the baker's yeast would have been deactivated prior to inclusion in the probiotic, included as a pre-biotic for the beneficial bacteria... |
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Victoria |
| Sunday, October 26, 2008, 3:16am |
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It is a myth that bakers yeast feeds candida. |
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| RhodaMaria |
| Sunday, October 26, 2008, 11:34am |
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Two years ago I got news from Johh Harris, then still working for NAP a reply on my request regarding candida and brewer's yeast and/or baker'yeast. These forms of yeast are certainly not nourishing the candida. John stated then that brewer's and baker's yeast in fact contribute to killing the candida..!! Cocky  |
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| Sunday, October 26, 2008, 6:26pm |
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I have been taking BTD probiotics twice a day for some years, now. I can't really tell what they are doing but I certainly am hoping they contribute to better health. My doctor is glad I'm taking them!  |
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