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NewHampshireGirl
Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 2:26am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Rose, is there anyone else in Kenosha you can turn to?  I can feel your anguish across the miles and I want to cry for you.  I want to do more than that, though.  I really want to go out there and fight your battle with you against those doctors.  Is there anyone else at all you can go to for another opinion?
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I just got back from my yearly check up with my doctor.  After being on thyroid meds for 3 years, my numbers are finally normal and my temperature was normal.  Three months ago after exercising, my doctor checked my temperature and it was low, so he upped the dosage of my meds.  That helped tremendously.

I have been taking large doses of Vitamin A for 50 days and I am not clotting during my periodand my flow is only 5 days.  

My doctor did find my levels of Vitamin D are low even though I try to get out in the sun every day during the summer.  He told me to start taking Vit D during the summer and try tanning during the winter.  He also told me to drink Green Tea at least 3 times per day to counteract the effects of the sun on my skin!!

The other couple of things he found is that my iron is low (lower than last year) so in addition to eating iron rich foods, he wanted me to take an iron supplement.  He said women who have thyroid issues usually have Iron problems from heavy periods.  He also wants me to eat calf/veal liver 2 times per week.  I like it but my family doesn't like it.  

I also have low DHEA and he gave me a prescription for that.

So my life is a lot different from 3 years ago. I am up every morning at 5:30 and I ride my bike 30 minutes with my dog running beside me.  

I go to the gym at least 2 times per week and do whole body exercises with anaerobic rowing or biking intervals.  On off days I do 90X.  My fingernails grow, my hair grows fast, and my skin is smooth.

3 Years ago I was hard pressed to get out of bed in the morning and I would collapse every night when I got home from work.  My energy is good during the day and I very rarely bonk. I had a nasty patch of dry skin around my hairline and I didn't need to get my hair cut more than 2 or 3 times per year.  

Treating any thyroid/hormonely issue takes a long time and takes a very good doctor who allows you to take charge of your
health.  It seems that along with low thyroid a whole host of deficiencies show up as an adjunct to the low thyroid as well, low progesterone, low Vit A, low iron, low DHEA for me.

As a side note, my 81 year old mother was diagnosed with low thyroid and she was given medication in February.  We were really concerned that she had dementia, but after being on thyroid meds for 8 months, she is much brighter and actually engaged in life again.  
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First and foremost, I want to thank everyone from the bottom of my heart for all your support.  You have truly brought me tears.

I'm going to check out Floradix, Acerola (Vitamin C)and I already take Dr. D's mulit-vitamin (Polyvite) and some of the other suggestions.

In regards to "soy" as much as it was indicated it may help in increasing the iron, soy is not good for the thyroid; so I have read.

Maybe for Christmas I can ask my son to buy me a ticket to fly out and see Dr. D!   I wish he still answered some email questions, so I could ask him what he would recommend for thyroid, iron and hair loss for type A.  Or maybe have an hour question and answer special on a radio show.

I wonder if I send him a letter at the clinic, if he would answer my question?  What do you think?

{{{Hugs}}} to all for your help.

Rosebud
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and horsetail as well....


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I would email Dr C, she might have some suggestions.


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Rose, there is some great info here:
http://www.onlyhairloss.com/hairlosscauses.htm



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Chloe, you can have veal, and turkey.. I think I have an iron absorption problem..I'm getting my ferritin checked next time. I've been anemic quite a few times in my life..
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Chloe, you can have veal, and turkey.. I think I have an iron absorption problem..I'm getting my ferritin checked next time. I've been anemic quite a few times in my life..


No, veal is baby COW....No red meat allowed for  Warriors. It's possible you've been given a more
customized diet., MF..but I'm following the book and it only allows turkey.



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Paulam - that was a great link (ferritin & thyroid ) That is exactly what happened to me.

Rose - how is the water where you live? Floride is toxic to the thyroid - in fact they used to give it to hyper-thyroid people. Nasty stuff. Check your tooth paste.

Also check the list of foods that suppress Thyroid function befor you start eating huge amounts of anything. It might be that food doesn't bother you but you will want to be sure.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/goitrogens/
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also Rose, the new IH         I saw yesterday, said your thyroid needs iodine, magnesium and calcium to function properly. How are you on getting those things? but then again, as I mentioned to you on another thread, if your body isn't digesting your foods and your body isn't able to use the nutrients from them, all is in vain anyway. Example......all of my hair analysis' have shown my calcium extremely high. At first glance, once might think that's good, but it's not. It means my body is storing it instead of utilizing it. I will ask my IH guy if he knows of any in your area. They 'attack' problems from a whole dif angle. {{{HUGS}}}



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IB,
You need to have it checked out if your calcium is too high - it means that your body is leaching it out of your bones which is most often a sign of a parathyroid adenoma.  I had that and had to have surgery on it back in 1996. PM me if you want more info.
About the TSH at 4 or more.  The new guidelines (a few years old) are that it's considered too high if it's above 3...it used to be 5 and a lot of docs still don't buy into that.  Most people feel best if it's between 1 and 2.  So if I were you, I'd raise that question with my endo and ask for additional supplementation.  Also, sometimes you need a little more in the winter.
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OK for tonight I want to add that secretor status is a biggie here.  If Rose is a nonnie, she could possibly be an explorer, they have issues with iron.  Also, dandelion is another good herb/veggie that might be helpful here....best wishes for more hair!

Yup.... so when are you going to get the test done?


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No, veal is baby COW....No red meat allowed for  Warriors. It's possible you've been given a more
customized diet., MF..but I'm following the book and it only allows turkey.


I thought veal is a neutral..why don't you PM Dr. C?
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I thought veal is a neutral..why don't you PM Dr. C?



Let's ask Lola....she knows everything!

Lola...is veal neutral for a Warrior or a toxin?



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is veal neutral for a Warrior or a toxin?


Since veal is cow, and beef, bone soups, broth, beef heart, beef liver, buffalo, bison are all avoids for Warriors, then veal would be an avoid as well.  



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Since veal is cow, and beef, bone soups, broth, beef heart, beef liver, buffalo, bison are all avoids for Warriors, then veal would be an avoid as well.  


Thank you italybound...it's what I thought!

OK Diana....you gotta give up the veal...you've been eating a toxin!



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veal is listed as a toxin for GT3.....
veal was evaluated for GT5 and
not listed in the warrior list.....some consider this fact as being a neutral, but a very infrequent one.

others have had other opinions on the veal issue.

is veal listed in your swami, Diana?


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veal is .. not listed in the warrior list.....some consider this fact as being a neutral, but a very infrequent one.


The Teacher diet is the only one that veal is even listed (and as an avoid). Given that all of the other beef 'versions'   are also listed as avoids, if we flip back to the Warrior diet and all the beef 'versions' are avoids there as well, why would veal then be considered a neutral for Warriors? Is it purely a personal choice to view it as such?



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Veal is treated separately from beef. While you are better off avoiding red meat, veal is a neutral and the plan allows you to enjoy neutral red meats 0-1 times per week. In other words, you don't need it but once a week is okay if you want it!


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Veal is treated separately from beef. While you are better off avoiding red meat, veal is a neutral and the plan allows you to enjoy neutral red meats 0-1 times per week. In other words, you don't need it but once a week is okay if you want it!


Lola, where did you get that info please.



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Since veal is listed as a toxin for GT3, I think you can consider that veal was evaluated for GT5 and since it wasn't listed it would be considered neutral.

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Based on that logic there are other red meats that would be considered neutral for GT5 too.

Red Meat
Bear
Beef
Beef tongue
Bone soup
Calf liver
Caribou
Horse
Kangaroo
Marrow soup
Moose
Opossum
Rabbit
Veal

However, look at the Warrior Red Meat frequency. It is 0-1 time per week.


0-1 means 'very infrequent' in my book!!


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I have copied sentences from past discussions which I considered of interest, depending on topic......I consider these interesting points of view on the veal issue for warriors......
they are simply 'interpretations' .....


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Thank you italybound...it's what I thought!
OK Diana....you gotta give up the veal...you've been eating a toxin!


It's on my SWAMI so Dr. D is letting me have it..Not that I like it..I haven't had veal in years. (He must have known that..grrr) We had this discussion about beef because it's not listed in the book. Only beef heart and beef liver right?  It's gotta be a typo(omitted by mistake)in the book. He says on the Genoytype website, that red meat was not good for Warriors... That was so funny when I was listening to him on the Ohio radio interview I expected him to say red meat for A's and he says lima beans..I don't like them either..lol  I can have kangaroo also..yeah, right. I'll remember that the next time I go to Australia. ..They are too cute to eat anyway. HEY, if I move to Alaska, I can have caribou!
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It's on my SWAMI so Dr. D is letting me have it..Not that I like it..I haven't had veal in years. (He must have known that..grrr) We had this discussion about beef because it's not listed in the book. Only beef heart and beef liver right?  It's gotta be a typo(omitted by mistake)in the book. He says on the Genoytype website, that red meat was not good for Warriors... That was so funny when I was listening to him on the Ohio radio interview I expected him to say red meat for A's and he says lima beans..I don't like them either..lol  I can have kangaroo also..yeah, right. I'll remember that the next time I go to Australia. ..They are too cute to eat anyway. HEY, if I move to Alaska, I can have caribou!


Well, enjoy your veal...Even if someone force fed it to me, I couldn't chew and swallow.
I'm probably one of the few type A people who hate red meat, hardly ever ate it as a child
and would rather starve to death than chew cooked animal flesh.  I can barely muster up a turkey burger. Yet, I could live on almost any food from the ocean....even seaweed tastes good to me...I wish it was okay for me to eat lobster, crab, calamari and shrimp.  THOSE
are the foods I crave constantly!



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