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carolinagirl
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Hi Everyone!  Newbie here.   (I haven't read LR4YT so I am definitely interested in that one.)  I have a question hopefully someone can help me with that does concern the "living" part of the BTD.

I haven't been formally diagnosed but my husband and I both agree I have so many symptoms of Adrenal Exhaustion.  A lot of stressful years, plus last year a huge devastating event in my life.  It's been much like watching a plane go down to tell you the truth.   

Last week, I started the O diet.  I cleaned out the cup boards and have been faithful and am determined.  But the O's are suppose to do best with vigorous exercise and intense stuff, but everything I read says to do Yoga and Tai Chi for Adrenal Exhaustion b/c vigorous exercise pulls too much on the Adrenal Glands and if they are already kaput..it's like trying to get blood from a turnip.  (I also have the book for health conditions specific for blood types, but couldn't find anything conclusive in that.)  Has anyone faced this quandry?

Thanks so much,
Carolinagirl  



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carolina,

I've had this problem that you describe.  Personally, I've had to do both, and sort of jump back and forth as I acquire more and more recuperated strength.

You're very fortunate to have someone that you trust and, more importantly, to cuddle with.  The act of cuddling causes a massive parasympathetic shift that is very likely the most powerful healing mechanism that exists, I've read...
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carolinagirl, sorry to hear about the adrenal exhaustion. You have my sympathies. I have that as well. No picnic.
I have a thread started to see if there is interest in Dr D doing a book specifically on Adrenal Fatigue. There are many here who have adrenal issues. If you're interested in seeing a book on A/F, please put your "Aye" on the thread.  
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-Suggest/m-1167308914/

I'll do a quick search and get you some thread to read. BRB
Lots of info here, several pages worth:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?v-search/p-2/
It has some really good info about adrenal fatigue in it.
Also, I am about halfway thru the Cortisol Connection Diet. There is some good info in there. I have found the book so far, to be very helpful. I am going to incorporate it w/ this 'diet'. I think that will be great. In this book it mentions having a balanced snack on arising, 2 hours later a balanced meal, 2 hours later a balanced snack and so on throughout the day. this is to keep your blood sugar on an even keel. It explains alot in the book.
Have a look at the threads I provided. There is a ton of info in them. If it were me, I'd keep the exercise on the light side until you see some improvement.
In bed and asleep by 10PM.......sleep as close to 8AM as you can in the mornings. Your cortisol is at it's highest level then. PLENTY of Vit C  (see this thread for some good Vit C suggestions - http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1208105507/), B5. Try to sleep in a dark room. No night lights, no digital lights, black out your windows if possible. You'd be surprised what restful sleep that brings.
Looking forward to more discussion.  

Re: exercise........IMHO, if you think you have A/F, I'd take it easy on the exercise. I truly agree that too much strenuous exercise is not good for us. Exercise yes, but within limits.
Have a look at this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Lights-Out-Sleep-Sugar-Survival/dp/0671038680




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carolina, check out the gtd, if you are a gatherer your exercizes are not as intense.....yoga, etc.
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Thanks for all the helpful info. (I added my "aye" for the book )  I went to the homepage for the Genotype Diet but wasn't sure which one I am. I'm sure the book goes into further detail.  I'd like to see pictures of the different body types.

So far I have read that it can take at least 2 years to heal from Adrenal Exhaustion.  It's like the body gets backed up with toxins and copper being one of the biggest.  It takes a good bit of mineral supplementation.  About a year ago I purchased "The Mood Cure Diet" and was so shocked as how many pills she recommended as the basic minimum to get our bodies back up to par.  

I have also read that the body resets itself from 10-2am and this is crucial sleep that the body can't make up.  My sleep cycle has been greatly messed with since crashing.  It's like your tired, but yet....I come awake in the evenings.  I am trying Calms Forte and the Valerian.  I just feel so overly sensitive to things these days.    

I have noticed with the O diet my blood sugar seems to be more stable...from the energy and hunger standpoint.  I would wake up hungry in the middle of the night prior to this diet.  My stomach would be screaming.  I resonate with that commercial where people smack their stomachs and yell "Shut UP!!"  That right there disturbs a good night's sleep.  I was just amazed at all the health conditions he nailed with the BTD.

I bet the Cortisol Diet book is interesting too.  I think my fight or flight has been in the "stuck" mode for years.

Thank you all for your help and keep the info coming.

Carolinagirl


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Cod liver oil.  My friends are starting to get on me for preaching cod liver oil.    I think it's been the most strengthening thing I've done over the last 3 years to restore my adrenals, and I was in the same shape you are in.  Specifically, Fermented cod liver oil and butter oil to provide 20,000IU of vitamin A daily: every step in the conversion of cholesterol into cortisol requires vitamin A.  That means you need both cholesterol and vitamin A to make cortisol. (I get it from http://www.greenpasture.org. but you could google it.) I can finally sleep through the night now!!!  And of course, all the tips already mentioned!  Sticking to Gatherer carbs really helped me too, because cortisol is secreted to balance insulin & adrenaline.  So lowering insulin levels took pressure off the adrenals to keep up.  
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Check out this "sticky thread" that's called Adrenal Fatigue.  You'll find lot's of great advice and hear about other fellow sufferers.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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So far I have read that it can take at least 2 years to heal from Adrenal Exhaustion.  It's like the body gets backed up with toxins and copper being one of the biggest.


Yes, it takes a long time to heal once you get to the exhaustion stage. I'm tellin' ya, but for my ND and BTD, I really think I'd be dead. I have developed heart issues and of course have the blood sugar and thyroid that come w/ it as well. My ND was the one who figured out it was copper that was keeping my body in a constant state of stress (read fight or flight here  )   We did a metal detox and now I"m taking zinc to try and balance things out BUT I can tell just from when I stand up in the mornings, that my adrenals are still way out of whack.  

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... "The Mood Cure Diet" and was so shocked as how many pills she recommended as the basic minimum to get our bodies back up to par.  


this is one thing Dr Lam advises against as they all start 'working against each other'. I meant to leave that link w/ you as well. It's a LONG article, but so much worth reading. I printed it out in color and then went off by myself and read it. http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm

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I have also read that the body resets itself from 10-2am and this is crucial sleep that the body can't make up. ... It's like your tired, but yet....I come awake in the evenings. ... blood sugar ...I would wake up hungry in the middle of the night prior to this diet. ..
I bet the Cortisol Diet book is interesting too.  I think my fight or flight has been in the "stuck" mode for years.


yes, the 10-2 (I read it was 1, but close enough - what's an hour give or take - oops, I mean give  ) time frame is when the body repairs. since finding out I have this, I have been and am continually amazed at how important our adrenals are and yet had not even heard of them up to prob 3 or 4 years ago!   Most people have NO idea what they are, much less what they do. I think that includes too many doctors as well.      The coming awake in the evenings is usually because your adrenals have kicked in for a second shift. Thus basically cutting the life of your adrenals in half, and also your own life as I understand it.    How is it our doctors are not giving us this info I'd like to know? Oh,,,,,,it keeps us coming back. Sorry to be syncial, but my faith in MD's aint what it used to be.  
low blood sugar will wake you if it dips in the middle of the night. when this happens it will keep me awake for hours, even if I get up and eat. so annoying.
well, sorry to hear you have this issue, but you're in good company   



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CarolinaGirl, it is my estimation you are doing the right thing to help.  First and foremost the diet.  I suggest you find someone that can muscle test you for what supplements you should be taking.  I also agree Cod Liver oil is probably a real good thing.  Some Chiro's can muscle test, some ND's can figure out what supplements your body is wanting, and I go to a rare MD that does this sort of thing too.

I pray God give you strength and restoration.  I can relate.  Although your problems may be different, maybe even worse, I still can relate.  But follow the diet closely.  The longer you do it, the better you will feel.  You may want to check out some of the NAP supplements.  I don't work here, and I don't get paid to say this, I have just found that they seem to work very well.  But again, I would see if you can find someone to muscle test you so you don't take too much stuff.  Or the wrong stuff.  I had this problem and I think it was hindering me from getting better.


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carolinagirl, I just finished that Cortisol Connection Diet book and I gotta tell you, there is a lot of good info in it. I'm going to get the other book he wrote about it. It's one of the best books I've read on it so far.........until we get our own book from Dr D re: adrenals, cortisol, etc.  



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Oh, Italybound, that article by Dr. Lam was very good. Have you consulted with him?
You know how you're always pushing the sleep thing?  Well, I just realized that could also be a very big reason why I'm feeling so much better these days.  In Dec. we moved to a house where there are absolutely NO lights shining in our windows at night. Zip. Nada. Only the moon and stars.   I could not believe the difference in stress levels that move made.  Our last home had 9 (I counted 'em!) street lights shining in the windows!
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Oh, Italybound, that article by Dr. Lam was very good. Have you consulted with him?  Our last home had 9 (I counted 'em!) street lights shining in the windows!


No I've never consulted w/ Dr. Lam and won't. I do think the article was very good. I would not waste my money consulting w/ someone who is not BTD friendly. I'm not saying he's not, but.......  I spent a ton of money w/ a chinese dr who I thought used blood type in his work but...not. And he was expensive. Ridiculously expensive. But I thought, how do you put a price on health? Until I got to the point of feeling, it was more about the money than helping.  
wow!! 9 lights shining in your window at night!!! I wouldn't sleep well either. I 'can't stand' even a bit of light peeping in around my black out material. Yep, darkness is conducive to great sleep. Glad you're seeing improvement!  



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Another thing that I think might contribute to a general exhaustion syndrome, is a generally high level of carbohydrates in the diet.  

High blood sugar typically overactivates nerve cells, because nerve cells run almost exclusively on glucose... and when you do that, I imagine that you could quickly exhaust your nervous system.  

Also, on the flip side, a diet high in insulin-binding lectins such as are found in wheat and corn, might actually cause the bloodstream to suffer insufficient levels of glucose, contributing to hypoglycemia, and a general feeling of tiredness.
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Hi Carolinagirl,
I'm sorry to hear that you most likely have adrenal exhaustion. As you can see you're in good company here as many of us also suffer varying degrees of adrenal exhaustion. I myself was diagnosed in September last year, and had obviously been suffering for a long while before that. I'm on the slow road to recovery now and am so grateful to finally have a reason for why I've been feeling so tired and unmotivated all of the time. I joined a gym a few years back but ended up canceling my membership as I felt so terrible everytime I tried to do even mildly strenuous exercise. I do very well with yoga (note to self to do more often). I'm an A so my recommended exercise is less physical than O's but I think you really have to listen to your own body and do only what you feel is doing you good and don't push yourself, at least until you've recovered from the fatigue.

Icebear,
I think you're right on the mark with the carbs, I have had a very busy week and my diet has suffered. I've been eating wheat and sweet things which I'd normally steer clear of, and have been feeling terrible the last few days, before that I'd actually been feeling closer to normal than I have in ages.

Also, I was wondering, does your bear have adrenal fatigue? he's been pushing himself along on his front for ages now, it kinda reminds me of how I feel when I get up in the morning and have to force myself out of the house to go to work. Oh and lastly, happy birthday for the other day (I noticed the other posts and although you've since changed your name, the bear has given you away)


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I have also read that the body resets itself from 10-2am and this is crucial sleep that the body can't make up.  My sleep cycle has been greatly messed with since crashing.  It's like your tired, but yet....I come awake in the evenings.  I am trying Calms Forte and the Valerian.  I just feel so overly sensitive to things these days.


Sorry I'm chiming in late.  My computer's power supply died a couple of days ago, and I finally replaced it tonight.  I've been through the adrenal fatigue wringer, too.  Probably not completely out of it yet, to be honest, but I'm much better.  I urge you to try to be in bed by 10 pm!  I had this same trouble with "coming awake in the evenings".  If you have to, take melatonin!  Also, if you are interested in another book, "Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome" was a big help for me.

BTW, what part of "Carolina" are you from?
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.. another book, "Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome" was a big help for me.


yes, yes!!! excellent book. I found alot of useful info in there as well. the more you read, the more you learn.  



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I might have to check this out.


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I might have to check this out.


please do, you'll not be sorry. I think John McDonnell first posted this a couple of years ago. I read it and have been recommending it to anyone who has these issues. It's a super book.



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Thanks again everyone.  I have been clicking links and reading all available info.  I went to Dr. Lam's site and sat with index card and pen.  I also never thought about the tv/computer issues with Adrenal Fatigue.  

I have a few questions though, maybe someone can help me.  One site said to avoid wheat AND spelt.  I was like WHAT?  I have a freezer full of white spelt flour.   

Also, Dr. Lam said to avoid Bananas, Figs, and Melons.  That stinks cuz I just got back from the grocery story with watermelon (which is neutral for O's) as well as banana's.  Bananas and Figs are listed as beneficial for O's on the BTD???  BUT......YEARS ago I lost A LOT of weight on the Blood Sugar Diet.  I purposely avoided bananas as their glycemic index was HIGH.  Dr. Lam said to stick with a low-glycemic diet.  Also what's funny to me, is on the Sugar Buster diet I ate LOTS of whole wheat and lost weight like crazy, although.....I was doing aerobics daily.  I'm sorry, I don't mean to confuse anyone reading this.......I'm confused enough I guess. !  You just read so much conflicting stuff.    

Maybe the wheat was doing bad things to my body and the exercise was counteracting its properties and assisted with weight loss??  I remember though, having a physical done during that time.  They did a full blood panel and the doctor was SO IMPRESSED with my cholesterol levels.  He said they were AWESOME.  My bad cholesterol was really low and the good was really high.  My stomach was flat (which even skinny I've always had a little pooch).  It had to be from that diet which again....was full of whole wheat.  The similarities between the BTD and the Sugar Busters diet to me was I avoided Corn and most Dairy as milk is high in sugar.  BUT....when I turned 30 out of the clear blue I developed hay fever.  Maybe that's where the wheat came back to haunt me.

I know that I am in a high risk group for diabetes as I was gestational diabetic with my first child (as well as toxemic.....I could have filled in as the Michellin man on commercials) and with my second I was right on the borderline for gestational diabetes too.  They say if you have this when you are young, you are at a higher risk of developing it as you age.  I have always kept this in mind.

It makes me feel better to know that I am not alone in this (not that I would wish this on anyone else.)  Building a house, leaving a job to be a SAHM, church turmoil, low level chronic marital problems, and then discovering lies in the marriage sent all my houses crumbling last year.  The good news is, God is good.....and he's restoring and healing.  We have found a marriage ministry that's helped us grow by leaps and bounds.  It's better than it ever was.  I have been working on eliminating all the stressors I possibly can.  Many of them relationship stressors like poor friendships, etc. Now, I just need to get my body to catch up and sleep.  Precious sleep.

Has anyone noticed issues with controlling anger or angry outburst as the Adrenal Exhaustion worsened?  (Just curious)  

Carolinagirl  

Drive 55-I am from Chester, South Carolina....about 45 minutes south of Charlotte, NC.  I am a native North Carolinian but went to the dark side about 8 years ago.     


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you need to follow your guidelines...
this will help lower your insulin resistance.
have you thought of getting your secretor status tested?
also check the diabetes book from the health series.....eye opening indeed.
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lso, Dr. Lam said to avoid Bananas, Figs, and Melons.  That stinks cuz I just got back from the grocery story with watermelon (which is neutral for O's) as well as banana's.  Bananas and Figs are listed as beneficial for O's on the BTD???  BUT......YEARS ago I lost A LOT of weight on the Blood Sugar Diet.  I purposely avoided bananas as their glycemic index was HIGH.  Dr. Lam said to stick with a low-glycemic diet.  Also what's funny to me, is on the Sugar Buster diet I ate LOTS of whole wheat and lost weight like crazy, although.....I was doing aerobics daily.  I'm sorry, I don't mean to confuse anyone reading this.......I'm confused enough I guess. !  You just read so much conflicting stuff.


Figs and bananas are high in potassium, which is troublesome if you are sodium-deficient.  I find even now that bananas give me a mild headache!  Sodium and potassium are big players in balancing intra- and inter-cellular water content, and too much potassium makes your adrenals work even harder to compensate.

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Now, I just need to get my body to catch up and sleep.  Precious sleep.


Don't forget that!  Sufficient (and appropriately timed) sleep is a must for healing.

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Drive 55-I am from Chester, South Carolina....about 45 minutes south of Charlotte, NC.  I am a native North Carolinian but went to the dark side about 8 years ago.     


...the dark side!  I moved to Richmond, VA in February last year, but I repented and moved back to NC in March.
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I have a few questions though, maybe someone can help me.  One site said to avoid wheat AND spelt.
Also, Dr. Lam said to avoid Bananas, Figs, and Melons.   Bananas and Figs are listed as beneficial for O's on the BTD???  
.......I'm confused enough I guess. !  You just read so much conflicting stuff.  ....when I turned 30 out of the clear blue I developed hay fever.  Maybe that's where the wheat came back to haunt me.
Has anyone noticed issues with controlling anger or angry outburst as the Adrenal Exhaustion worsened?  (Just curious)


THIS is why I am wanting a book specifically on adrenals. If one went by blood type, would they avoid those foods? We don't know because we don't have the answers per blood type per adrenals. The BTD Fatigue book is prob great for general fatigue, however, unless someone has adrenal exhaustion and lives the life,[i] they just don't get the difference between fatigue and adrenal fatigue. So I'm still hoping for the book.
You could certainly be right about the hayfever hitting you because of all the wheat. They say we can develop allergies at any given moment..........makes sense if you're constantly feeding your body things that push it towards that. The things we have learned from BTD! It's so great!!
And I absolutely think yes, you could see issues with controlling anger or angry outbursts as the adrenals worsen. They are directly involved in keeping hormones in balance. We all know what happens when the hormones get unbalanced!!     




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That's too funny about repenting and moving back to North Carolina.  Hey, years ago hubby was in military and we lived in Va.  We repented and moved back to NC too. (Tee-Hee)  

No I haven't been tested for the secreter status.  I'm in secreter denial b/c if I test that I am a non-secreter I think my food content will go down even more.  Like meat and water right? (JK) Is it really THAT big a deal about the secreter status?  

Hubby's going to the bookstore today after work and I'm going to get him to look for the Genotype book. I hope they have it.  I'm crossing my fingers.

You are right Italybound about the conflicting information and another book.....or 'booklet' from Dr. D would be nice about this.  I guess for the present I'm going to stick with the lower glycemic fruits, but making sure they are all safe in the BTD list.  

Yes, I think the combo from poor eating and stress led to allergies.  My father (well entire family) are all O's and he was the same way.    He even moved to Florida for awhile to just get peace from hay fever.  I finally got tested and use meds during the season.  But having an entire family being O's as I read the book I saw every single condition Dr. D has listed.  Then I took the book to my MIL's and she's an A and she was naming off conditions she had even before I got to them in the book.  It blew my mind.

My hubby's and O- and I'm an O+ so I'm assuming our children are O's....unless A can be recessive.  If he wasn't the spitting image of his father I'd be worried.  My husband's the only O out of his family, the rest are all A's.  Weird huh?  

Thanks for answering the question about anger.  I never connected the hormone issues with anger.  Duh!!!  And thanks again for all the wonderful information shared with me about this.  Hopefully Dr. D will pay special attention to the petition to write a book about this.  

Carolinagirl  


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Also, I was wondering, does your bear have adrenal fatigue? he's been pushing himself along on his front for ages now, it kinda reminds me of how I feel when I get up in the morning and have to force myself out of the house to go to work. Oh and lastly, happy birthday for the other day (I noticed the other posts and although you've since changed your name, the bear has given you away)

Yes, my icebear has a little adrenal fatigue, but mostly he just likes the feeling of the coldness across his chin, throat, and chest.

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No I haven't been tested for the secreter status.  I'm in secreter denial b/c if I test that I am a non-secreter I think my food content will go down even more.  Like meat and water right? (JK) Is it really THAT big a deal about the secreter status?


Secretor status is a big deal if you are a nonnie!  If it turns out that you are an O-nonnie, yes, your diet will be even more limited, but only because it needs to be!  Think of it like this: you might be a non-secretor, but if you don't test, you won't know.  Not knowing won't change whether or not you are a secretor, it just deprives you of an important piece of information.

O is actually a recessive gene: to be a type O, you need an O from both mom and dad.  Your husband's parents could both be As, making it most likely that their children would be As, but if they both have the recessive O, your husband could have gotten it from both.

As far as adrenal fatigue diet recommendations go: if a certain food is to be avoided on either diet, you probably should avoid it, even if it's beneficial on the other diet.
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There is a "Fatigue" BTD book.  It may help.  The blood types are not recessive.  You have to have been given it from your parents.  So when you say your husband was an O and the rest were A's, I think one of his parents had to be an O.  Although, I could be wrong about that because O's are the universal blood type.  Someone can confirm or deny if I'm right.  I think if you follow the BTD, it should help your adrenals correct themselves.  I could be wrong about that too, but I think it's been helping me in my fatigue.


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Also, I was wondering, does your bear have adrenal fatigue? he's been pushing himself along on his front for ages now, it kinda reminds me of how I feel when I get up in the morning and have to force myself out of the house to go to work.


yeah, this is what adrenal fatigue makes you feel like!! getting up at 4AM was THE hardest thing I did all day! getting up at 6AM, same thing. If I can sleep in until 8, I feel so much better, it's amazing.
Ron, are you keeping IceBear for your screen/forum name? I likey!!     Sorry to hear he's fatigued



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ABNoWay,

There are two ways to be a type A: AA alleles or Ao alleles.  The only way to be a type O is to have oo alleles, i.e. the O gene from both parents.  So that means, probably no O to fill out your family, since you can only give A or B to your children!
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http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/1.htm
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ABNoWay,

There are two ways to be a type A: AA alleles or Ao alleles.  The only way to be a type O is to have oo alleles, i.e. the O gene from both parents.  So that means, probably no O to fill out your family, since you can only give A or B to your children!


I thought so.  My little saying at the bottom of my posts are there for fun.  Meaning we'd have a rounded out family then.  We could adopt and get one.  Could you imagine that.  "What kind of child are you looking for?"  "A type O"  



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Well I just finished the Genotype book.  It appears that both my husband and I are Gatherers and living in the south I screamed and literally jumped for joy to see my precious Black Tea on the beneficial list as well as chocolate.

As far as blood type, I'm guessing both his parents had recessive O Genes.  I pulled his military record just to be sure and he is O-.  Both his parents spend much time at doctors offices so when they say they're A I believe them.

Thanks for all the information, I guess I need to go over to the Genotype Diet now and start reading there.  

Carolinagirl


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It's great that you are both the same Genotype, will make things a bit easier for you - yay!  And yay again for Tea and Chocolate woo hoo too!


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I like to walk also, sometimes I just feel like walking miles around the city but people don't seem to do that much anymore.  Cuddling would be nice to, haven't done that is a while.  
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