Forestry.  That was one of my many interests.

I've been told my body is a combination of an ectomorth  endomorph.  "Your mind will always be at war with your emotions," was what my master bodywork teacher told me.

Intelectually I know I need to exercise more, but my heart would rather be doing something more interesting, that engages my mind. Exercise never does that for me.

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Ahh, you noticed that!  Well, when I was younger I was INTP and good in math and science, so I just set off in that direction, and the inertia has been hard to overcome.  Now I think I might be swinging over to ENFP, as I wrote in a previous post.  I wonder what it would've been like if I really did go to college in Oregon for Forestry like my guidance counselor suggested?  (And he didn't even know my blood type.)  I find that hiking through the hilly woods helps me burn off steam very well.  But I don't see a career change in my immediate future.

Yeah, I'm fairly observant--for an N!  I have a theory about this whole personality thing.  Supposedly your personality never changes throughout your life, but different experiences can accentuate and strengthen previously weaker aspects of personality.  For me, and long struggle with depression made me more in tune with my feelings, and brought out my idealistic side more, hence the T/F mix-up, and being depressed naturally makes you more introverted, hence the I/E mix-up.  Having a strong religious and moral background also helped me develop my idealistic side.  So I think all in all, because of all the trouble I've been through, I've turned out to be quite well-rounded, but with the depression and other illnesses gone, my ENTP traits are coming through loud and clear!

drive 55 infp is the negative side when ENTP/J goes to the wrong side called desintegrative way ....so you should go to ESTP/J, named the number 7 in Don Richard Riso's enneagram

an infp can be also technologial when he/she has merely the three part in her psychogram than the four-part .....
btw.... mostly all 3ers are very sensual to technologies .....

I agree with you, Drive 55.  I haven't taken the test to see what I am, but on the choleric/sanguine/melancholy/phlegmatic scale, I used to be a phleg/mel.  No longer.  After stress, depression, removing myself from my former life...hm.  What am I?  I feel like a sanguine melancholy if there is such a thing.  My friends see me as such now.  Where can I take the test?

Nevermind.  I found it.  I'm an ISTJ.

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but my heart would rather be doing something more interesting, that engages my mind. ... Exercise never does that for me.

My experience, I agree there's nothing intellectual about exercise, nothing emotional, no joy, no instant reward. It's void of feeling, of passion. The only thing present is will power. (Will power? Moi?!!) I call it a first chakra thing, even below the first. It touches some well hidden fears and complexes I so carefully strive to hide from myself. Here I must repeat to myself Lola's signature: "The hardest you are on yourself, the easeier life will be on you!" After exercising I come triumphant on the other side, as if I have made it walking through a scary tunnel. Every morning. And upright, too: the work on the elliptical is excellent for posture, as long as I keep my arms down.

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My experience, I agree there's nothing intellectual about exercise, nothing emotional, no joy, no instant reward. It's void of feeling, of passion. The only thing present is will power. (Will power? Moi?!!) I call it a first chakra thing, even below the first. It touches some well hidden fears and complexes I so carefully strive to hide from myself. Here I must repeat to myself Lola's signature: "The hardest you are on yourself, the easeier life will be on you!" After exercising I come triumphant on the other side, as if I have made it walking through a scary tunnel. Every morning. And upright, too: the work on the elliptical is excellent for posture, as long as I keep my arms down.

Perhaps if you're exercising indoors on a treadmill, then your exercise will be devoid of emotion and passion.  Why not try kick boxing or dance?

hey Squarepeg....I, like you, have a feeling that dance is the thing! wild, crazy, expressive dance! I wish I could find a likeminded group.....ok, that does it ...I am going to take African dance or some other expressive movement.  

ritual dance from Senegal!!
lots of jumping there!

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Perhaps if you're exercising indoors on a treadmill, then your exercise will be devoid of emotion and passion.  Why not try kick boxing or dance?

Well, please let me tell you I am not exactly complaining, but rather trying to come to terms with exercising, to which I am sure there is no replacement. Like there's no replacement to walking in open air, listening to the birds and sensing Nature. Beyond that yes, I am a born dancer, I believe most of us are. There's a bit of a problem here, since due to a severe complicated fracture in my left distal tibia + fibula which occured 7 years ago (O vegetarians beware!) and left me a little impaired, I cannot jump to my liking!  This Summer I became acquaited with an expressive movement method named 'Rio Abierto' (open river?) and liked it very much.

say that sounds interesting, Yael! Rio abierto! I'll google it. Maybe more people will come up with expressive movement ideas.

I'm very new to this.It sounds like perfect sense so I'm willing to try.As for anger issues,I've got them in spades and a really bad case of hateful on top of that.

I'm really hoping this is going to help.I really need help.

it sure will!

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Perhaps if you're exercising indoors on a treadmill...

It's the elliptical I use. I hate the treadmill, treading on a moving gum sheet. Some say the elliptical is better for your knees. If I am desparate I can always stick in my earphones and enjoy TV channels.

In context of anger, the following suggestion was posted on Aug 12, 2005
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-xr4yt/m-1123807915/

This 'trick' is I think the best advice I've ever got regarding posture, and it's been working more than fine for me. It has a reflex in the face: it automatically creates a smile, and immediately ignites a good mood!

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... Also another trick to keep your shoulders back is to consciously make sure that your thumbs are pointing forwards when you're walking.  It pushes your shoulders into the correct line.  It's also really interesting to watch other people walking and see how many have their thumbs directed towards their body - hence having hunched/slouched shoulders.

  

I'm really enjoying lurking on this O thread!  As a B nonnie with a B nonnie daughter, I can relate in my own way, since we are sort of O-like.

With sufficient exercise, our lives are so well-balanced.  And as a B, we also need the variety of changing what we do.  I watch my daughter practicing the African dance moves that she is learning in class, and it's natural to smile, very big!  

We have a stationary bike set up on wind-driven trainers in our livingroom, and this makes us sweat beautifully.  On the other end of the livingroom is the Rebounder, which is always a joy to bounce on.  There is a space between the sofa and the computer for floor exercises:  pilates, yoga and hand weight work.  We hike when the weather is decent, and walk in the neighborhood when we can.  All in all, it enables the body to hold onto the positive emotions.     

plus your unique ability to visualize!  

Well, yes . . . There is that!    

Hey Squirrel and all!
I was looking for something in the old threads and found this particular message. You know what struck me the most? That all those who agreed with Squirrel are Gatherers...and the GT2's generally are not into strenous exercises. There we were wondering about it in  Oct 07...and now we know the answer thro GTD!

Fascinating!

Now what was I looking for..?

I think walking is fine. Some people have good reasons for not doing strenuous exercise. Walking is very good exercise.

I used to go jogging/walking a few times a week and I used to love it. I only jogged 1/2 a mile or so but it was enough to give me the euphoric feeling that joggers love. I seem to have developed a Magnesium and other nutrient deficiency that caused me to stop jogging. I didn't feel I had the pep, and sometimes I have totally depleted my Magnesium from jogging, which took days to recover from. I think BTD and Mg supps with B6 (P5P) has a great chance of reversing this. I'd love to go jogging a few days a week again some day.

I might be able to get away with jogging maybe one day a week or something like that, at this time.

Strenuous exercise is known to deplete magnesium, so anyone like me with borderline Mg deficiency needs to be careful not to overdo it. Many things deplete Mg. We need something like BTD to assist us with Mg repletion.

Yeah Ribbit, you need to journal those thoughts so that you can look back and laugh!  You crack me up because it's such a typical day in the life of a Mom!  I'm passing your post on to some very busy mothers.  
Leanne!

Sorry, I was a little belated with my above statement.  I hadn't read page two before I posted.  Ribbit, I was referring back to you describing your day at trying to make lunch.  Hilarious!
Leanne!