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Squirrel
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I've been following the BTD since Jan '07. I went "all out" for it, emptied my cupboards and fridge/freezer of everything except compliant foods. I lost 16lbs and I wasn't overweight. At home I'm as close to 100% compliant as possible, so that I have some credit in my "not-embarrassing-my-friends" account when I'm eating out.

I've noticed that I can get away with potatoes every once in a while with no noticeable effects. But 1 slice of pizza and I put on 4lbs overnight and it takes a week to come off again . My doctor laughed and said I was a typical O

So when I got the LR4YT book I was expecting to identify completely, but I was surprised. Apparently Os are supposed to be prone to anger problems, and need vigorous exercise. But that's SO not me. I'm far more a long walks person than a tennis and squash person, and it takes an awful lot to make me angry. Indignant or frustrated maybe, but I walk away and simmer rather than shouting and losing control.

Can anyone tell me - am I doing myself harm by walking miles rather than pounding them out on the courts? Or am I already balanced enough to get away with it? Any advice or input would be much appreciated!


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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noway!
you should always do what feels right to you!
this is an individualized plan!


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it takes an awful lot to make me angry. Indignant or frustrated maybe, but I walk away and simmer rather than shouting and losing control.


A lot of that could be social conditioning, too.  You were probably brought up to feel that 'shouting and losing control' are inapropriate responses - especially in a woman.  That doesn't mean that you don't get angry - it just means that you have learned to control your reaction.  

As Lola says - whatever works for you and if walking does it that's great      
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A lot of that could be social conditioning, too.  You were probably brought up to feel that 'shouting and losing control' are inapropriate responses - especially in a woman.  That doesn't mean that you don't get angry - it just means that you have learned to control your reaction.  

As Lola says - whatever works for you and if walking does it that's great      


Haha! Yup, that's probably me too! But I'm pretty laid back as a rule. I might have an indignant moment over something like someone cold-calling during my tea then hanging up on me, but really bad things tend to depress me rather than make me angry.

I guess I was just a bit surprised that I didn't fit the O personality or exercise picture as well as I fit the food picture. And worried at the thought of having to take up tennis to be a "proper Blood Typer"!

Thanks for your replies!


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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I also prefer long walks (and long-distance 'slow' cycling) to tennis, squash and other high-energy activities. I tried tennis, but could never get into it - too fast for me.
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Apparently Os are supposed to be prone to anger problems...


More when they are in a 'bad' health state that when they are in a 'good' one.


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More when they are in a 'bad' health state that when they are in a 'good' one.


This I can attest to.  Before I got onto BTD my mood swings were really bad.  I could turn from one mood to another within seconds.  You know...0-to b*tch in 1.2 seconds which is not really my character.  Although my girls and hubby would beg to differ...especially when it comes to BTD eating.   Since I have been on this way of eating for six years my moods have really mellowed out. Especially after finding out my secretor status which really got things under control.  I can't remember the last time I have flown off the handle and that really makes me happy.  Thanks Dr. D. for the happy 'pill' you've given us.

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I love really tough exercise -- explosive, weight-bearing kind of stuff.  I enjoyed tennis, soccer, karate, bicycling, volleyball when I had the time for such things.  I'd've played hockey if I could skate.  I was bored senseless playing baseball.

I was prone to explosive bursts of anger up until several years ago.

The one thing I couldn't understand about LR4YT is that it said I'm supposed to be an outgoing leader.  That's just not me.  But I remember far back when I was a boy being very outgoing and bossing people around.  I posted in another thread that maybe my eating habits changed me.  I avoided meat and vegetables and craved noodles.  Then as I young adult I decided to become a vegetarian.  Now that I'm eating proper foods, I think I might be trending toward extroversion.  But it's too soon to tell.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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walking and yoga for me. but I can see how a lack of cultivation of active sports in my youth and childhood has led to this. although, I am an artist, poet, meditator  type of gal.....one of those shamanistic type gatherers, (or herbal witchy type) I guess.
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Hey, now.  You don't have to be witchy to be herbal.  


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I thought my occasional explosions were due to being a Scorpio!
Guess being an O and a scorpio is worse. I don't like running and stuff like that. I would much prefer to do a nautilus workout at the gym. I want to try the elliptical thingy .We get a membership Nov 1 so we shall see.
Me and an A at the gym not a beaurtiful thing.
Yes I am an extrovert but try to convince people I am really shy.
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Hey, now.  You don't have to be witchy to be herbal.  
(true)

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Hey drgnwng1:

The elliptical trainer is great.  It works both the arms and legs, there's no jarring impact like with running, and you don't have to sit like with spinning.  It's my fav cardio workout.  I like the stair climber, too, but it doesn't work the arms.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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OK, interesting. Anger -> exercise, right?

Yesterday I got my secretor results, and I'm a nonnie. So's my husband who's an A. So he rang me up and was telling me all about the "new" things he wanted for tea that he could now have. I went right through the database and wept at all the foods I now can't have!

So I stomped off to the shops in ... well a bit of a fury I suppose ... maybe I do get angry after all ... and I found after I'd powered up a hill at top speed (in 30 degrees of heat) until my leg muscles were hurting, I really did feel a little better. Better enough to concentrate my mind on buying food rather than wandering around wallowing in self pity.

Maybe I was in denial. I am an O non-secretor through and through, and I may as well get used to it.


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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OK, interesting. Anger -> exercise, right?

Yesterday I got my secretor results, and I'm a nonnie.


Welcome Squirrel to the nonnie club.  Got a nice warm seat for you.

Quoted from Squirrel
and I found after I'd powered up a hill at top speed (in 30 degrees of heat) until my leg muscles were hurting, I really did feel a little better. Better enough to concentrate my mind on buying food rather than wandering around wallowing in self pity.


YES!!!  This is how I feel doing the O exercise.  Once you get that burning feeling into your muscles things really are alot better.

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Maybe I was in denial. I am an O non-secretor through and through, and I may as well get used to it.

As I said before...once you get your head wrapped around the fact that you are a nonnie...everything is fine.

Debra



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now you know what to do whenever you start feeling weird or should I say, 'nonnie like'!!


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Yes, get up off that sofa and go and stomp up a hill!      

Actually cleaning the apartment from top to bottom usually has the same effect, but does anyone else find that cleaning windows makes you think the same thoughts as you were thinking last time you cleaned them?

Thanks for the welcome folks.

I've just got back from shopping. We bought a bread-maker, some rye flour, molasses (blackstrap) and agave syrup. And had a steak meal on the way home. I feel great!


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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hope you go easy on that delicious bread you ll be making!  


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Quoted from Lola
now you know what to do whenever you start feeling weird or should I say, 'nonnie like'!!


Sooooooo true.  It is great to put a name to our feelings, isn't it.

Debra




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we bottle the aggression up inside, we are tought to be nice, happy and lovely... nobody wants to see aggressive

whenh i did the "part one" course at "the art of living" it was like 20 years of anger were trying to come up all at once... it felt...terrbile
actually, at the time it was too much for me to handle so i shall do the course again and practise the techniques every day


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Yeah, like how I felt this morning.  Every night for the last week the baby has woken up every single hour because she's cutting 4 teeth at once.  I'm already so severly sleep deprived I can hardly stand up straight, then she won't stop crying long enough for me to cook a meal.  My adrenal glands are so exhausted that a cup of coffee, which my dear husband had the forethought to brew for me before I asked, didn't even faze me.  It took me one and a half hours to cook lunch today, what with stopping to nurse, clean up a little boy's "accident" on the bathroom floor, (which lead to scrubbing the potty while I was there, mopping the floor with washcloth that desperately needed a trip through the washer and wiping down the tile walls that I noticed were really dusty), read two stories to weepy children, clean up three spit-up puddles, kick a dead bee under the rug, put a stop to 1,697 inter-sibling arguments, nurse again.....and it took everybody a whole 10 minutes to wolf down the quinoa, fried okra, and as-yet-undiagnosed pink-eye-purple-hull peas (probably have the same diagnosis as black-eye peas, but since I don't know I'll feed them to the whole family).  I realized when I sat down to eat lunch and nurse (again---when will these teeth come in?!), I hadn't even had breakfast.  No wonder I was hungry.

I tried to break down and cry but couldn't.  I think it would have felt good.  All I could conjure up was one tear, which nobody even saw, so what good did it do?

Why am I posting?  I should go outside and stomp up a hill, dragging my children behind me in a little red wagon.  Or I could tell my children to be quiet (ha) while I do some deep breathing.  

"Come, children.  Put 'Alice in Wonderland' on pause and we'll go outside for a while."


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hope you go easy on that delicious bread you ll be making!  


Yeah, same here.  I went home last weekend, and my step-mom found a nice bread-maker for $12US at a yard sale, then naturally when I got home and checked my secretor test results, I was nonnie--that's figures, right?  But I sort of expected that--I've always been so over-sensitive and sickly--so having it verified wasn't such a shock to me as it seems to be for some people.

Square,

How did a INFP end up in electrical engineering????   Mind-boggling.  Maybe you should revisit the personality profiles and see if that one is still true.  I used to think I was INFP, too, until I started getting healthy and my real personality became apparent!
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...does anyone else find that cleaning windows makes you think the same thoughts as you were thinking last time you cleaned them?
Possibly, but I'm afraid that I clean windows so infrequently I have no chance of remembering exactly what my thoughts were the time before.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Ribbit,
this episode in your life will pass, and you will be laughing your head off, remembering!!
enjoy even the worst minutes of the day, cause those too shall be a thing of the past, even if for now they seem eternal and never ending!
ain t life a wonderful mystery?

when I think back, I was literally grounded for over 16 years!!
but it s so worth it!


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Square,

How did a INFP end up in electrical engineering????   Mind-boggling.  Maybe you should revisit the personality profiles and see if that one is still true.  I used to think I was INFP, too, until I started getting healthy and my real personality became apparent!
Ahh, you noticed that!  Well, when I was younger I was INTP and good in math and science, so I just set off in that direction, and the inertia has been hard to overcome.  Now I think I might be swinging over to ENFP, as I wrote in a previous post.  I wonder what it would've been like if I really did go to college in Oregon for Forestry like my guidance counselor suggested?  (And he didn't even know my blood type.)  I find that hiking through the hilly woods helps me burn off steam very well.  But I don't see a career change in my immediate future.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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