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Lisalea
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Whats the consensus on them ?
R they really dangerous ... can they be life threatening ... what about if u have to travel ... which r pertinent to get for protection ... which do more harm than good ???
Help ... thank-u so much fellow BTD' s  


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As a long-time mother I would do it differently if I could just start all over again.  First of all, I would have a darn good homeopath for a family practitioner.  Then, the vaccinations I would consider for the children would be only smallpox and the dead virus polio shots.
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They still have the smallpox vaccine???
I have 4 children 13, 11 , 5 and 2 . My first two ( Girls) I vaccinated at 4 ( partially) and used Thuya a homeopathic remedy to boost immune system right before I did it. Both my boys I chose not to vaccinate at all. They by far have been more healthy than my girls. I gin=ve them elderberry daily to boost their own immune system.





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I would vaccinate my kids differently than I did
- like wating with the Mumps /rubella etc to they were older...maybe split the vaccination to seperate injections so they didn┤t get the full cocktail

I would only get the flu vaccinaton IF I had problems with my lungs etc...

Emma is waiting as long as possible with the new "girl" vaccine against cancer
- THey really have to prove me that it is safe - they havn┤t yet !!!
So she┤ll have to  wait to have sex...

If I was going to the Tropics etc... surely I would have some of the vaccinations- I┤m not going to play around with lifetreatening diseeases.


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for my gusto, I am with AB-girlie...no vaccinations @ all....toooooo much of sideeffects ......all the things I see every day uploaded with lead in kiddies and adult....hmmm.... that's nonsense
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Both my boys I chose not to vaccinate at all. They by far have been more healthy than my girls.


what are their blood types?


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seems there is a difference in ABO types......

and here s why according to Dr D
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I have written about how it seems to me that children who are type B appear to have more extreme reactions to childhood vaccinations, but hindsight in this case would be 20/20 and it would be insensitive and outrageous to state categorically that this was the result of the child being blood type B. However, I will now redouble my efforts in this direction, and indeed if there is some link, hopefully we can elucidate it, and then get the word out. It is the least we can do.

worth pondering indeed....


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   In a conversation I had last week with a young mother of an almost one year old boy she said that her doctor told her it was ok if she did not want to give her son his shots.  And when it came time for them to go overseas in their missionary service the only one she said to think about getting was the polio one.  
  I am not sure where I stand on the topic as I have not read up on it too much but I for sure would do that before making my decision.  


Beouemom sounds like bay way mom and I think Colorado is a great place to live.  
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As a long-time mother I would do it differently if I could just start all over again.  First of all, I would have a darn good homeopath for a family practitioner.  Then, the vaccinations I would consider for the children would be only smallpox and the dead virus polio shots.


Really ??
May I ask u why ?? Thank-u  


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If I was going to the Tropics etc... surely I would have some of the vaccinations- I┤m not going to play around with lifetreatening diseeases.


I value ur opinion Henriette, thank-u
Which would u get exactly ?


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for my gusto, I am with AB-girlie...no vaccinations @ all....toooooo much of sideeffects ......all the things I see every day uploaded with lead in kiddies and adult....hmmm.... that's nonsense



Not even one vaccination, really !!??  

Even if u were going to Africa for example ?!!
Merci a l'avance ma cherie  


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nope dearle,  not even one of em ....and Africa can live without me ......

I became more than sceptical  with all things we should  get into our mind...believes etc .....especially when needs are created......and those things can cost us (the royals) our lifes .....one of my cousins died coz of such an injection.....and be assured, I think that she also was a nonnie .....mostly all persons of that weird family must be nonnies if not they haven't survived ....their own established stress..... .....
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Africa can live without me.

if Africa only knew you better!!!


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one of my cousins died coz of such an injection.....

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Isa,
I'm so very sorry to hear about ur cousin ... please elaborate ... what injection do u think killed her ??!!


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Emma is waiting as long as possible with the new "girl" vaccine against cancer
- THey really have to prove me that it is safe - they havn┤t yet !!!

Read up on the vaccine. It only covers certain high risk HPV's. It does not cover them all. Granted the ones it covers are the ones most associated with a high grade cervical lesion but it does not cover them all. There also has been some controversy over the effects of the vaccine. I would do a lot of reading and make those girls wait a long time to have any intimate relationships like we can stop them.
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Lisalea, I'm not certain what you're asking about.  I would look to the homeopath to keep the immune system built up so that diseases could be coped with in that manner.  My emphasis would be on eating foods according to blood type and classical homeopathy.
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Lisalea, I'm not certain what you're asking about.  I would look to the homeopath to keep the immune system built up so that diseases could be coped with in that manner.  My emphasis would be on eating foods according to blood type and classical homeopathy.


I was asking why u would do it differently and why u would  ONLY consider  the smallpox and the dead virus polio shots versus other vaccinations ?
Did ur children have a bad experience and what r the symptoms "if I may ask", thank-u again


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Lisa, is this for you or for children or for someone else?  What age, blood type, disease history, etc?  Are you planning travel to another country?  If so, which country?

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Lisalea, it was a pock injection, in France you've had to go for them as a child as well. I remember we've been about 12 years old when we have gotten the order to go for those vaccines  we've been 5 children to go for...after 6 weeks we've been 4 !!!  But we've all had biiig problems with that vaccination ......but she was the smallest and didn't took it well at all ......
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Read up on the vaccine. It only covers certain high risk HPV's. It does not cover them all. Granted the ones it covers are the ones most associated with a high grade cervical lesion but it does not cover them all. There also has been some controversy over the effects of the vaccine. I would do a lot of reading and make those girls wait a long time to have any intimate relationships like we can stop them.
Jean


Yep that is why we are waiting.....
Hopefully it will be another 5 years before she needs them....  I don┤t think so !- just wishfull thinking ... BUT She has promised to tell me when she can┤t wait anymore....


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I value ur opinion Henriette, thank-u
Which would u get exactly ?


Maybe hepatitis and something against yellow fever...
BUT it depends on situation

Emma - type O-secretor-did not react to any of the first injections she had as a baby mainly tetanus, MMR, diphtheria and sugar with polio...
But last year she had the 3d and last injection against MMR - she really reacted bad... so I┤m glad she is finished.

The only vaccination I have had lately is tetanus...
I┤m messing too much with soil
- and I cut my finger really deep and it was 15 years since I had one.


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what are their blood types?


All 4 of my Children are B's...





Mom to 4 B's...living with extreme food allergies to wheat, all dairy, eggs and pineapple !! ( Me, not the kids..)
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Lisalea, it was a pock injection, in France you've had to go for them as a child as well. I remember we've been about 12 years old when we have gotten the order to go for those vaccines  we've been 5 children to go for...after 6 weeks we've been 4 !!!  But we've all had biiig problems with that vaccination ......but she was the smallest and didn't took it well at all ......

Tragic


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The only vaccination I have had lately is tetanus...
I┤m messing too much with soil
- and I cut my finger really deep and it was 15 years since I had one.

I would say that u made an intelligent decision, thanks my Dear


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Lisa, is this for you or for children or for someone else?  What age, blood type, disease history, etc?  Are you planning travel to another country?  If so, which country?


I do plan to travel probably to Cuba or perhaps Barbados; however, I would like to travel to other places such as Africa, India ...etc ... one day hopefully and wanted to start to inform myself about vaccinations beforehand
Thank-u  


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Another thing, I hear all of the time how easy it is to contract Hepatitis A or B (apparently they're serious liver diseases)  when travelling hence that's scary as well ... sigh ... very confusing on what to do  


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