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Isa, my dearest..

If you are anything IfHI, you can access them. Just contact the office, or better wait about two weeks and there will be an IfHI members-only site up and you can just look around there.


Hi debra+,


It's not to punish the non-IfHI that I/we do this. A lot of it has to do with the scope of the permissions I/we receive from the speakers, not a few of whom  (myself included) are working on books.  In one case, for example, we got just the paper rights, not the electronic.


Hi everybody,

Of course.. another way to something like having the handouts: Try to interest someone who was there to start a thread describing what they learned. Then ask lots of questions.  

They can work from their handouts!









Okay...since Dr. D. gave permission for the attendees to discuss what they had learned at IfHI 2007 e.g. Swami and that someone could start a thread...this is it.  Got any questions?  Ask away...

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ahem ....if I remember well, so I looked @ Yamans' test on Samos last year..... why....because it seems that I am,,,,,was authorized..... trallala may be the suppa teacher for the uprising saisons glad to go for the europeans .......omG...why did I outed myselve .......



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and yesss it seems that I might be anything as an F & M-status @ IfHI

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Okay...since Dr. D. gave permission for the attendees to discuss what they had learned at IfHI 2007 e.g. Swami and that someone could start a thread...this is it.  Got any questions?  Ask away...

Debra



Debra,
First of all, thanks for the offer. I really appreciate it.

My questions are really around what additional things do we need measured and known before we can ask an expert to enter our details into SWAMI.
If you could provide a brief description of what that measurement is for that would be great.

Cheers,
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Michael,
I believe the practitioner you contact, will give you the details he needs, and will perform the necessary tests, like fingerprints and certain measurements, etc.
plus the lab tests he considers necessary according to your issues.


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and vegatestingggggs as well ......
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OK IFHI People, let's get going here and not make me look bad!


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Okay...since I think I know a little bit about what Swami might be about...my question will be about the legs.  What can you tell me?  Does it have to do with the length of them...between the knee and ankle, foot...between the knee and hip...how muscular...circumference??  

Debra

P.S.  If I have this wrong feel free to tell me about something else.


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I have corresponded with one of the attendee's about SWAMI since I have a strong interest in getting it done. He mentioned that at the moment there is no 'list' of data that needs to be gathered for it (or what they do?) short of filling in the data for the program.

I suppose once someone organizes the material into a questionaire form, sectioned by type of info (and maybe subtyped by the general areas that info affects) these answers will take looking up and so forth. Not a bad idea.  

I vote for someone(s) getting busy on producing such a guide, maybe posting interesting tidbits as they are found?
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OK IFHI People, let's get going here and not make me look bad!


It's hard to look bad wearing a lab coat.  
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to fill in the swami personal data, there are certain measurements the practitioner will perform on you>

head circumference:
front to back and left to right

your waist/hip ratio:

finger length from both your left and right hand:
ratio between ring finger and index finger named D2/D4

taster status will be determined.....

also your fingerprints from both your hands will be analyzed, to feed the swami program
to determine if there are ulnar loops or whorls, arches, radial loops..etc
the existence of white lines is also analyzed.

tests performed to write in the data are the following:

anemia/ low ferritin
low white cell count
liver enzymes
cholesterol
hdl..........
and so on........

again, the practitioner you contact, will have the capacity to perform all these tests or give you a list of the required tests he needs done, besides the ones he will do himself.



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Debra what you are mentioning is about the upper leg space called gynic or andric
then there s the gonial angle on the jaw, either narrow or wide.....
then there s the trunk to leg ratio...
and the upper to lower leg ratio......
Wrist Encirclement as well .......
hope that helps have a better idea of the data needed to feed the swami program.


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hmmm...better make an appt. with my IfHI practioner one of these days.  

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Hello debra+,

Here is a question about SWAMI.
What is it?
My guess is that is it a further refinement of the BTD.
Is that guess correct?

If so, do I contact an IFHI practioner (?) to have these
measurements taken?
Do I need to know a secret handshake to do it?
Do you know of anyone doing this in Los Angeles, California?
Or is it too new to be done?
Maybe it is just for the Convention attendees?

If my guess is incorrect, please fill me in.
Anyone, please.
Thank you.

Cordially,
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SWAMI = Serotyping With Advanced Modifying Inventories
Quoted from SWAMI USERS GUIDE
The SWAMI is a sophisticated diet collection and display software program written by me, Dr. Peter D’Adamo. SWAMI allows you to add a significant number of new variables to the basic blood type diet values and output the results via an incredibly detailed and versatile printout. SWAMI essentially creates a printable version of one of my commercial diets (such as the Live Right For Your Type diet) that is much more person-specific.

An IfHI member/Practitioner can purchase the right to use SWAMI.

No secret handshake needed, you just need to find a practitioner that plans to offer SWAMI.

Check the practitioner listing to find someone in your area.


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Here is a .pdf of a typical printout.

http://www.dadamo.com/DoeJohn.pdf



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Thank you sooooooo much Dr. D.

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Hi Dr. D.,
Thank you for the typical example printout.
Wish you were on the West Coast.

Thank you MoDon for answering my questions
about SWAMI.

Cordially,
Margaret


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Margaret...are there not any practioners in the west where you are?

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Wow thanks for this paper dr D.
Will it be possibel for us in EU to get acces to this finetuning ?


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...ahem......may I ask you  a fave...Peter ....just a little birthdaypresent for myselve ..... soon
in August .... how should I begin.... .............

Peter....may I ask you to give me a glimps of that for an A2B nonnie as well ....


ouffffff....out it is ...........
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Here is a .pdf of a typical printout.

http://www.dadamo.com/DoeJohn.pdf


Wow!  Hey, Dr. D.:  I notice that in the grains category, quinoa is not listed at all, as a beneficial, neutral or avoid.  I scrolled back up and looked at seeds and nuts and it wasn't there, either.  Do you have quinoa entered into the Swami system?  Just wondering, as I recently have gotten into this and think it is the best choice out of all the grains for most Type O's.

Very detailed and individualized program, I say again:  wow!


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Look again, quinoa is in the sample report as a neutral.


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Wow thanks for this paper dr D.
Will it be possibel for us in EU to get acces to this finetuning ?

Yes, since it is a web based application it doesn't matter where the user is in the world and it assures everyone is getting access to the latest version of SWAMI.


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Look again, quinoa is in the sample report as a neutral.

 *cringing in embarrassment*

So it is.  I'm on two hours of sleep today (which I'm fixin' ta post a related topic about at some point), so pardon my lack of functional brain activity.

Neutral she is, for John Doe, anyway.  A grain being neutral for an O nonnie is about as good as it gets *lol*.  Quinoa is a star.

...I want to read that sample report again.  Obviously I missed a lot the first time around!



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Thank you, Lola. for Dr. D's llist of practioners.

Yes, debra+, I find that there are practioners
way out West now that I take a look.

I called a few. The one Master is out of town until next week.
Maybe start with a Master?
That's the thing...I would like a personal recommendation
for a practioner.

Anybody have one?

Cordially, Margaret


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I would wait till next week and give him a call.


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Thanks, Lola.

Will do.

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I have been checking for the 2007 IfHI audio CD set to show up on the NAP website on a regular basis.
I finally emailed NAP yesterday and asked when it would be available. They replied and said "It is available and you can order it."

It is not listed in the online catalog, so until it shows up I assume you would have to call in your order.


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One of the required SWAMI inputs is Client Ethnicity, with the following choices:

Northern European
Central European
Southern European
Eurasian
North Central Asian
South East Asian
Middle Eastern
North African
African
Native American
Hispanic

I added what I believe is my ethnicity in the Member Center to my Personal Message that shows up under my blood type avatar.


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I have been checking for the 2007 IfHI audio CD set to show up on the NAP website on a regular basis.
I finally emailed NAP yesterday and asked when it would be available. They replied and said "It is available and you can order it."

It is not listed in the online catalog, so until it shows up I assume you would have to call in your order.

When I pointed out that the 2007 IfHI conference audio CD set was not in the online catalog NAP replied "Thanks for pointing it out Don, it will be added." so hopefully soon we will be able to easily order it using the NAP website.


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One of the optional data entry points for SWAMI in the Laboratory Data section is the results from the NAP OxyStress test.  So I wrote NAP about about if taking the OxyStress test once was sufficient or if multiple tests over a period of hours, days, or weeks was preferable to get the best assessment of free radical activity?
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Yes – retesting in 4 – 6 weeks would be optimal.  Instructions come with OxyStress.  Best results from first morning urine.


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One of the optional data entry points for SWAMI in the Laboratory Data section is the results from the NAP OxyStress test.  So I wrote NAP about about if taking the OxyStress test once was sufficient or if multiple tests over a period of hours, days, or weeks was preferable to get the best assessment of free radical activity



I did not notice in the literature on this, does the package provide for multi-use
testing or do mulitple tests need to be ordered?

Never mind - I see it is single use.

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Yes, since it is a web based application it doesn't matter where the user is in the world and it assures everyone is getting access to the latest version of SWAMI.


Thanks Don- -I´m getting more and more interested another thing to save to


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Hello Everyone,

After reading the sample of the SWAMI Dr. D. made available
to us, it appears that the refinements might be very minor.

Being an 0 non-secretor (but Rh-) I didn't see much difference
in the recommended foods. No radical changes.

I am wondering if it is worth the costs of the tests and
program.

Any thoughts out there?
Thank you.

Cordially,
Margaret



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I don't think you should expect SWAMI to turn your diet upside down, at least not yet. I don't know what the results will be like when it includes the GTD. The most important aspects of of the BTD are still ABO and secretor type. Therefore, the changes in your diet resulting from SWAMI might be very minor. It will depend on what your SWAMI inputs are and what you consider very minor to mean. As I previously quoted from the SWAMI User Guide:
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SWAMI essentially creates a printable version of one of my commercial diets (such as the Live Right For Your Type diet) that is much more person-specific.

I think SWAMI will make it easier for someone to know by getting a specific printout what is recommended for them as an individual instead of having to interpret the various modifiers in LR4YT like non-secretor, Rh-, A2, MM let alone all the things that are not factored into the LR4YT recommendations.

For example for SWAMI produced the following type of changes for me:
  • Slightly bigger and fewer meat servings
  • Slightly bigger and fewer fish servings and a new super beneficial and some new beneficials
  • Slightly fewer dairy servings
  • Slightly more egg servings
  • Slightly fewer oil servings
  • Slightly bigger nut servings
  • Slightly bigger and more grain servings
  • Several new super beneficial and beneficial vegetables
  • Slightly fewer fruit servings and a couple of new super beneficials
  • A couple of new beneficial beverages
  • A couple of new beneficial herb, spices, and condiments
  • There are also some additional foods that are rated.
As a bonus there is a cutout small condensed shopping list on the last page. It is similar to the NAP wallet cards in that it only lists beneficial and avoid foods.


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Hi Margaret,

SWAMI can vary from rather insignificant changes to rather big changes. A lot of it depends on the amount of data that you enter. I did notice that I did not include the D42 measurements in the sample printout (in addition to not including a lot of other factors as well)

As Don said, SWAMI GenoType will be another milestone along the way. It will have the GenoType data and will be a complete rewrite, from top to bottom.


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In my case among other slight changes the most significant addition has been rye coming up as super beneficial with a super beneficial type O lectin. I never expected a super bene showing up for an O. Interesting enough, even before SWAMI I always had a taste for rye versus other neutral grains like kamut, spelt, rice.. Green olives that I loved are now beneficial too.

The other major difference is the increase in beneficial fish category. Anchovies, blue fish, salmon, tuna, lobsters etc all are upgraded for me.

All in all I'm quite happy that I took the SWAMI approach despite the loss of black pepper altogether

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I never expected a super bene showing up for an O.


in  terms of a grain, you mean, right?


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Only two of the foods you mentioned as becoming beneficial became beneficial for me.

That definitely shows that SWAMI can produce different results for two type O secretor males of similar age and build.


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what about dairy, Don and Yaman?


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See my previous detailed post.


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Slightly fewer dairy servings....right

but of what type of dairy?
except ghee ofcourse........


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No change for me compared to LR4YT.


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Hello everyone,

Thank you, Dr. D., for your reply.
I think I might wait until your new book comes out
and do the tests.

Unless  doing the tests available now would be
those tests that are included with whatever additional
tests are required for the Geno-type diet...would that
be the case?

Thank you, MoDon, for encouraging me to keep
my expectations real.

Thank you for all your comments.

Cordially,
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Slightly fewer dairy servings....right

but of what type of dairy?
except ghee ofcourse........


In my case goat cheese is neutral. However, if I run SWAMI with a detox bias, then goat cheese becomes beneficial.

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I ran SWAMI with all the different therapeutic biases and looked at the results, but in the end I decided I would just let SWAMI decide the bias without my adding any therapeutic bias nudge and use those results.


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and were those results any different, Don?

Yaman,
Swami is so intelligent, it seems to even know you live in a goat cheese country!!!



Hope I can run mine with all the bias available, sometime soon!
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Yes, using the Detoxification Therapeutic Bias does produce substantially different results. Per Dr. D the Detox Therapeutic Bias choice skews the diet towards low bacterial overgrowth for short term use, maybe 3 weeks. Since I don't have that problem I ignored it.

The Anti-Aging and Immune Enhancement Therapeutic Bias choices didn't produce any changes for me that I could spot. For instance, that could be because based on my age and other parameters SWAMI already picked 30% Anti Aging focus in the Therapeutic Triad for me without adding any additional Therapeutic Bias.
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Based upon our intake information, including your family history, personal physical history, the results of our in-office testing and measurements, SWAMI has determined that the optimum course of action in the design of your particular diet involves emphasizing the three following areas .

Accordingly, SWAMI has structured some of its food selection processing to emphasize choices that strengthen these three functions.

   * Fatigue and Allergy 40%
   * Cancer Prevention 30%
   * Anti Aging 30%


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Yes Lola'cim, vive les chevres

Don, I agree with you, I too have decided the unbiased results,

Yet I don't totally dislike the idea of red wine being beneficial as per anti-aging

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Yet I don't totally dislike the idea of red wine being beneficial as per anti-aging

Unfortunately, SWAMI didn't give me that beneficial for anti-aging.  


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Don,

Maybe it's because I'm one year older than you, so don't give up hope yet, you can run SWAMI again next year


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Am I the first B reporting in with my SWAMI results? I guess there really aren't many of us out there...

I ran the program with an anti-aging bias and the biggest change for me was the number of fruits that went from neutral to super-beneficial... 10 new super-beneficial fruits!!!  including oranges!!    That was always something that I disliked about the B recommendations... the lack of beneficial fruits. So I was quite pleased with that result!

Also, the amount of bean/legume servings per week increased dramatically but I have been trying to increase legume consumption anyway for the phytoestrogens. The surprising news there was that green/string beans became a super-beneficial along with white beans.

Dairy stayed about the same for me... and no super-beneficials in this category... not even cultured dairy. Almost all cheese is now either beneficial or neutral though with the exception of string cheese and bleu cheeses which are still avoids.

Another surprising feature was the move of miso to super-beneficial... and I LOVE miso but alas... it has to be a non-soy miso and even the barley miso that the A's in the house use is a soy-based one. But it is something I can look for at the HFS.


And Yaman... you were right... still no chicken...  

And guess I am still too much of a young'un for red wine to become a super-beneficial too.  


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for the goaty-land ....Yaman's ......

MoDon for your kind help in  fixing my infos' come over and get tested whats going on right now.....personally in and on your body tested......... we we can get fixed that as well (would you mind to go for more aminoacids....especially l'carnosine)

sweet Lolalein ...this is also the invitation for you .....


and I think I've to go for this sacrosanct program as soon as possible......to get my.....

ouch ...won't tell you no more right now....but very soon
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Am I the first B reporting in with my SWAMI results? I guess there really aren't many of us out there...

I ran the program with an anti-aging bias and the biggest change for me was the number of fruits that went from neutral to super-beneficial... 10 new super-beneficial fruits!!!  including oranges!!    That was always something that I disliked about the B recommendations... the lack of beneficial fruits. So I was quite pleased with that result!

Also, the amount of bean/legume servings per week increased dramatically but I have been trying to increase legume consumption anyway for the phytoestrogens. The surprising news there was that green/string beans became a super-beneficial along with white beans.

Dairy stayed about the same for me... and no super-beneficials in this category... not even cultured dairy. Almost all cheese is now either beneficial or neutral though with the exception of string cheese and bleu cheeses which are still avoids.

Another surprising feature was the move of miso to super-beneficial... and I LOVE miso but alas... it has to be a non-soy miso and even the barley miso that the A's in the house use is a soy-based one. But it is something I can look for at the HFS.


And Yaman... you were right... still no chicken...  

And guess I am still too much of a young'un for red wine to become a super-beneficial too.  


well I guess I´m not old enough to get the all theese fruit
- but you are right Kristin - more bennie fruit would be wonderfull.

Thanks for reporting the "unusual" B experience....
even the B secretors are starting to become the minority of the B´s here....


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Again, if you had the breath hydrogen, oxystress, etc. The results would change more..


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http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TE003
got to get that test included, also for more targeted advice!


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I ordered a couple of the OxyStress test kits last week so I will be curious to see if the results change my SWAMI report at all.

I still have a few other measurements to complete, involving my palm prints and a body fat and water distribution measurements.


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I found it interesting that Don's meat servings were upped but less frequent....very curious...
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I received my OxyStress test kits today.

As I previously posted I wrote NAP about about if taking the OxyStress test once was sufficient or if multiple tests over a period of hours, days, or weeks was preferable to get the best assessment of free radical activity and they replied:
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Yes – retesting in 4 – 6 weeks would be optimal.  Instructions come with OxyStress.  Best results from first morning urine.

The instructions in the kit suggests to test each week for 4 consecutive weeks, then test once or twice a month after that. The instructions also include recommendations for each blood type to follow if the results are high.

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The frequency for the OxiData Test varies with each individual. If an individual test color is in the high free radical range, the person should begin or increase antioxidant supplementation and retest at least twice a month until free radical activity has been reduced. The OxiData Test should be taken once a month thereafter.

My point is there are 3 somewhat different recommendations. Although logically as the web site states, the answer to the question varies depending on if the results of the first test are high or not. It would also seem like it might be a good idea to test at least twice even if your first test result is low just to make sure the second test results match the first.

The OxiData Test web page also has a description of the test and how it is done.


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I did the OxyStress test this morning. Unfortunately, my results, according to the color chart, were Very High, but at least not Severe. You can see the color chart on the OxiData Test web page.

Looks like it was a good idea to take the test. Although, I wasn't really surprised by the results since about a year and a half ago I had some testing done that also indicated similar findings. I think it is all related to my health problems with mercury, the related candida, etc.

I didn't see any changes in my SWAMI results when I re-ran it with the new high OxyStress test results.  Maybe my other parameters had already shifted me in the same direction as high OxyStress test results would.


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Wow, wow! I am impressed! A test for Oxidative stress....what a boon! I am sure many of us have much more oxidative stress than we would like to imagine! Myself, because I like to saute things, and the temp can get a bit too high at times....(I saute eggs everyday....and its a fave way of doing veggies....burgers, etc.) And the idea that you can just take as many antioxidants as you need....great!
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Hello Everyone,

I did the OxyStress Test and it came out more red
than Severe.
I threw in the towel.
The notion of taking more supplements was not
acceptable.
So I'm recycling on the issue.
It is $20.00/ per test.
Not cheap.

Hopefully  Dr. D's  Geno Diet book will have some more
refinements for dealing with this issue.

Cordially,
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try the  detox protocol every once in a while.....


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try the  detox protocol every once in a while.....


Hi Lola,

Thank you for the recommendation.
Will do.

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On an unrelated side note...I cannot tell you all how much help, direction and support you all have given me.  You are the most wonderful bunch of human beings I think I have ever almost met!!

Thank you from the bottom of my HEART
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let us know how it went.


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Also, I absolutely have to make the next conference.  I am missing out on WAY TOO MUCH GOOD STUFF!!  Sure hope it is someplace other than the desert out this way...maybe someplace with trees and grass?!?

The 2009 IfHI conference is currently scheduled for the same location.

I was busy enough at the conference I barely had time to notice where I was.


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