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yaman
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Slightly fewer dairy servings....right

but of what type of dairy?
except ghee ofcourse........


In my case goat cheese is neutral. However, if I run SWAMI with a detox bias, then goat cheese becomes beneficial.

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I ran SWAMI with all the different therapeutic biases and looked at the results, but in the end I decided I would just let SWAMI decide the bias without my adding any therapeutic bias nudge and use those results.


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and were those results any different, Don?

Yaman,
Swami is so intelligent, it seems to even know you live in a goat cheese country!!!



Hope I can run mine with all the bias available, sometime soon!
sigh!


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Yes, using the Detoxification Therapeutic Bias does produce substantially different results. Per Dr. D the Detox Therapeutic Bias choice skews the diet towards low bacterial overgrowth for short term use, maybe 3 weeks. Since I don't have that problem I ignored it.

The Anti-Aging and Immune Enhancement Therapeutic Bias choices didn't produce any changes for me that I could spot. For instance, that could be because based on my age and other parameters SWAMI already picked 30% Anti Aging focus in the Therapeutic Triad for me without adding any additional Therapeutic Bias.
Quoted from The SWAMI Therapeutic Triad
Based upon our intake information, including your family history, personal physical history, the results of our in-office testing and measurements, SWAMI has determined that the optimum course of action in the design of your particular diet involves emphasizing the three following areas .

Accordingly, SWAMI has structured some of its food selection processing to emphasize choices that strengthen these three functions.

   * Fatigue and Allergy 40%
   * Cancer Prevention 30%
   * Anti Aging 30%


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Yes Lola'cim, vive les chevres

Don, I agree with you, I too have decided the unbiased results,

Yet I don't totally dislike the idea of red wine being beneficial as per anti-aging

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Yet I don't totally dislike the idea of red wine being beneficial as per anti-aging

Unfortunately, SWAMI didn't give me that beneficial for anti-aging.  


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Don,

Maybe it's because I'm one year older than you, so don't give up hope yet, you can run SWAMI again next year


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Am I the first B reporting in with my SWAMI results? I guess there really aren't many of us out there...

I ran the program with an anti-aging bias and the biggest change for me was the number of fruits that went from neutral to super-beneficial... 10 new super-beneficial fruits!!!  including oranges!!    That was always something that I disliked about the B recommendations... the lack of beneficial fruits. So I was quite pleased with that result!

Also, the amount of bean/legume servings per week increased dramatically but I have been trying to increase legume consumption anyway for the phytoestrogens. The surprising news there was that green/string beans became a super-beneficial along with white beans.

Dairy stayed about the same for me... and no super-beneficials in this category... not even cultured dairy. Almost all cheese is now either beneficial or neutral though with the exception of string cheese and bleu cheeses which are still avoids.

Another surprising feature was the move of miso to super-beneficial... and I LOVE miso but alas... it has to be a non-soy miso and even the barley miso that the A's in the house use is a soy-based one. But it is something I can look for at the HFS.


And Yaman... you were right... still no chicken...  

And guess I am still too much of a young'un for red wine to become a super-beneficial too.  


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for the goaty-land ....Yaman's ......

MoDon for your kind help in  fixing my infos' come over and get tested whats going on right now.....personally in and on your body tested......... we we can get fixed that as well (would you mind to go for more aminoacids....especially l'carnosine)

sweet Lolalein ...this is also the invitation for you .....


and I think I've to go for this sacrosanct program as soon as possible......to get my.....

ouch ...won't tell you no more right now....but very soon
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Quoted from Kristin
Am I the first B reporting in with my SWAMI results? I guess there really aren't many of us out there...

I ran the program with an anti-aging bias and the biggest change for me was the number of fruits that went from neutral to super-beneficial... 10 new super-beneficial fruits!!!  including oranges!!    That was always something that I disliked about the B recommendations... the lack of beneficial fruits. So I was quite pleased with that result!

Also, the amount of bean/legume servings per week increased dramatically but I have been trying to increase legume consumption anyway for the phytoestrogens. The surprising news there was that green/string beans became a super-beneficial along with white beans.

Dairy stayed about the same for me... and no super-beneficials in this category... not even cultured dairy. Almost all cheese is now either beneficial or neutral though with the exception of string cheese and bleu cheeses which are still avoids.

Another surprising feature was the move of miso to super-beneficial... and I LOVE miso but alas... it has to be a non-soy miso and even the barley miso that the A's in the house use is a soy-based one. But it is something I can look for at the HFS.


And Yaman... you were right... still no chicken...  

And guess I am still too much of a young'un for red wine to become a super-beneficial too.  


well I guess I´m not old enough to get the all theese fruit
- but you are right Kristin - more bennie fruit would be wonderfull.

Thanks for reporting the "unusual" B experience....
even the B secretors are starting to become the minority of the B´s here....


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Again, if you had the breath hydrogen, oxystress, etc. The results would change more..


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got to get that test included, also for more targeted advice!


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I ordered a couple of the OxyStress test kits last week so I will be curious to see if the results change my SWAMI report at all.

I still have a few other measurements to complete, involving my palm prints and a body fat and water distribution measurements.


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very thorough Don!


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I found it interesting that Don's meat servings were upped but less frequent....very curious...
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I received my OxyStress test kits today.

As I previously posted I wrote NAP about about if taking the OxyStress test once was sufficient or if multiple tests over a period of hours, days, or weeks was preferable to get the best assessment of free radical activity and they replied:
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Yes – retesting in 4 – 6 weeks would be optimal.  Instructions come with OxyStress.  Best results from first morning urine.

The instructions in the kit suggests to test each week for 4 consecutive weeks, then test once or twice a month after that. The instructions also include recommendations for each blood type to follow if the results are high.

The manufacturer's website for the test kit states:
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The frequency for the OxiData Test varies with each individual. If an individual test color is in the high free radical range, the person should begin or increase antioxidant supplementation and retest at least twice a month until free radical activity has been reduced. The OxiData Test should be taken once a month thereafter.

My point is there are 3 somewhat different recommendations. Although logically as the web site states, the answer to the question varies depending on if the results of the first test are high or not. It would also seem like it might be a good idea to test at least twice even if your first test result is low just to make sure the second test results match the first.

The OxiData Test web page also has a description of the test and how it is done.


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thanks Don!


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I did the OxyStress test this morning. Unfortunately, my results, according to the color chart, were Very High, but at least not Severe. You can see the color chart on the OxiData Test web page.

Looks like it was a good idea to take the test. Although, I wasn't really surprised by the results since about a year and a half ago I had some testing done that also indicated similar findings. I think it is all related to my health problems with mercury, the related candida, etc.

I didn't see any changes in my SWAMI results when I re-ran it with the new high OxyStress test results.  Maybe my other parameters had already shifted me in the same direction as high OxyStress test results would.


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let s see if there are any changes in your next try.


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Wow, wow! I am impressed! A test for Oxidative stress....what a boon! I am sure many of us have much more oxidative stress than we would like to imagine! Myself, because I like to saute things, and the temp can get a bit too high at times....(I saute eggs everyday....and its a fave way of doing veggies....burgers, etc.) And the idea that you can just take as many antioxidants as you need....great!
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Hello Everyone,

I did the OxyStress Test and it came out more red
than Severe.
I threw in the towel.
The notion of taking more supplements was not
acceptable.
So I'm recycling on the issue.
It is $20.00/ per test.
Not cheap.

Hopefully  Dr. D's  Geno Diet book will have some more
refinements for dealing with this issue.

Cordially,
Margaret


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try the  detox protocol every once in a while.....


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try the  detox protocol every once in a while.....


Hi Lola,

Thank you for the recommendation.
Will do.

Cordially,
Margaret


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Yahoo, I finnaly got in touch with an IfHI practitioner here in Las Vegas!!  I am so excited!

Also, I absolutely have to make the next conference.  I am missing out on WAY TOO MUCH GOOD STUFF!!  Sure hope it is someplace other than the desert out this way...maybe someplace with trees and grass?!?

On an unrelated side note...I cannot tell you all how much help, direction and support you all have given me.  You are the most wonderful bunch of human beings I think I have ever almost met!!

Thank you from the bottom of my HEART
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