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rex
Thursday, June 7, 2007, 4:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Can some non-secretors be at a higher (more severe) level than others or is an all or nothing status?  I seem to be somewhere in the middle ie. as a non-secretor soy should be an "avoid" but if I reduce (but not omit) the amount of soy milk I drink I tolerate it much better...no more stomach gurgling.  I'd like to keep drinking soy milk as long as it won't harm me.
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rex
Thursday, June 7, 2007, 7:29pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Thanks for your reply.  I am new & appreciate the help.  I did select an avatar as you suggested.  My type is O.  I have not taken the secretor test yet but since soy milk did cause my stomach to gurgle, I'm quessing that I may be a non-secretor.  But, since reducing (not omiting) the amount of soy milk I drink daily got rid of the gurgling, I was just wondering if my non level may be minimal (not very severe).
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rex,

This is not a definitive answer by any means, but you may have reduced the problem down to a level undetectable at this time, but still causing some issue that you are not aware of...

There is also the possibility that there are different levels of secretor...  I would think that the Non-Secretor would be definitive, since there was no agglutination in that test.  It seems that it would be difficult to measure the exact level of agglutination in the Secretor's test...


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I believe that at the present level of testing, a non-secretor is a non-secretor, and if a food is an avoid, then a little bit of that food is still an avoid.  Of course a small amount of avoid is not as bad as a lot of avoid!  

But, you may not be a non-secretor.  There are many reasons why our bodies react certain ways to foods and they are not always secretor status indicators.



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Thank you for all your replys.  You have been very helpful suggesting other possible reasons for my negative reaction to soy milk.  It may not be that I'm a "non-O" at all.  One of these days I'll have to take the test & find out.  In the meantime, I'm doing very well for a newbie to this diet and I intend to stick with it & see how much better I can feel.
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If you are a newbie to the BTD I don't think you can make much of any food reaction at this time. Wait for at least 6 months while following the BTD, while avoiding any foods that seem to bother you, then you might be able to make some judgment about any foods that still bother you.

The point is that your system is going to change as it adjusts to the new diet and becomes healthier.


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In my understanding of a non-secretor, a nonnie has little or no blood type antigen present in their bodily fluids. I have never understood just what amount would constitute "little" and where the cut-off line would be for the results to be either a secretor or a non-secretor. Maybe it is quite obvious in the testing result.... but that I do not know.

So... could a nonnie be close to a secretor and therefore have different dietary choices as a result? Could be... and the reverse could be true as well... secretors like myself who have the nonnie gene (I have a child who is a nonnie) might need to lean more toward the nonnie side of life. I am certainly finding that to be true as I age.....

But I do agree with the others. If you test as a nonnie then you should eat like one. And you will learn with time what individual adjustments to make along the way.


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Welcome to the BTD lifestyle, rex.

If you decide that you want to drink soymilk, you may find it helpful to utilize the lowest range of portion/frequency guidelines for the bean/legume category.  

Once you get your secretor status tested, you can make further refinements in your meal plans for optimal health and well-being.

Alia


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rex,
if you could post the ingredients in your soy milk, that info would help us track down any avoids causing you that particular reaction.

some soy milk products have gums or carrageenan, or additives......


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