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Jane
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My ex is an AB and my kids are both As.  My older one was diagnosed as ADD in kindergarten.  He's 32 on Sat.  but he had a tough time on and off in school.  He was in a class for very bright children but he really did have trouble attending to the work.  He was in and out of college programs and never did finish his degree and now he's working for a company that doesn hydraulics.  He loves it because he's out on the road alot doing repairs.  He also custom builds power units....varies from day to day.   The only thing that calmed him down was his music.  He's been a rock musician since about 15, writes, plays lead guitar and lots of other instruments that he taught himself to play.  I always had a hard time getting him to do his schoolwork but now he reads etc.   I think you are right Isa in saying that schools just don't know how to deal with kids different learning styles.  I had a core evaluation done when he was in 3rd grade and he was reading then at 8th grade level.  He also had a high school math teacher that told me that he found his own way to get to the answers in her class.  She was fine with that but some other math teachers weren't so creative.  
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Ok, new to this forum and interested in accessing whether my children could be anything other than 'o'. Hence I read this thread (although still confused after reading thread!)!

So here it goes, my wife and I are both 'o' does that mean our children are 'o' too?

Quote from earlier in forum... 'O's do not carry any recessive blood type genes All O's are Oo'

So if my wife and I are both 'Oo', our children must be 'O'?

Only answer if you really k'o'


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I believe you got that right!

and welcome!


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My husband is a O ,so I do see why you say two O's would be a challenge! I am a AB our children are B,AB,B

If the father of your children is type O and you are type AB, then you can not have a type AB child.

You can only have type B and type A children in that case.



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Thank you for your reply Lola, and thank you for the welcome too.

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Jane, I'm glad to hear that your A son, with his creative learning style has found his place in the world and is happy in his job.My O son (15) sounds a lot like him. He too is very smart, and musical. He has A's in all of his accelerated classes however in his one "regular" class he had a D! He was B-O-R-E-D!!!! I called the teacher and asked her to challenge him, and sure enough, up went his grade. I have since heard from older kids that had her, that she was "a lousey teacher". I think a lot of the kids that are labeled ADD, have teachers that treat them all the same, and are burnt out and just going through the motions of teaching.  

Just recently, his Spanish teacher said to him "have you ever been tested for ADD? My brother wasn't diagnosed until he was 25". I thought that comment was a bit out of line, because I could tell it kind of bothered my son. He said to me, "I don't want to be tested, because then I might be inclined to use my diagnosis as a crutch." I'm sure my son, being musical, was probably jiggling his leg at his desk, or tapping his pencil to some tune in his head, to cause the teacher to make this comment.  In other words, he was being a BOY!  I do notice, that he gets more annoying if he eats foods with wheat or corn syrup!

Opps, back to the thread, I am an A, married to an O with two O kids.  I did have trouble conceiving, but fertility pills worked! I don't know if the A/O mix had anything to do with our conception problems. I was not "eating right" back then.


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Opps, back to the thread, I am an A, married to an O with two O kids.  I did have trouble conceiving, but fertility pills worked! I don't know if the A/O mix had anything to do with our conception problems. I was not "eating right" back then.

An A women shouldn't have trouble with an O husband, but the reverse could.

Remember that an O is a universal blood type donor because no other types make an antibody against the type O "antigen".



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a type O woman should think about this and if she marries a blood type incompatible man she should reduce the chance or amount of a hostile environment her immune system might produce during conception and development by following the BTD.


Really interesting point. Could you elaborate on it? I get the gist from your post that you're saying following the BTD well might/should keep the immune system from being as hostile as it might be otherwise. (For instance, are you saying an rh negative mom who's NOT following the diet might more readily - at least theoretically - generate the kind of antibodies that rh negative women are given Rhogam shots to prevent?)

What's your view of any potential risks of Rhogam shots to rh negative mothers, thimerosal/mercury issues aside? (I know it's claimed there are no issues, but I doubt it's been sufficiently studied for the blanket safety claims to really be all that trustworthy.)

[Just to be clear here, I'm well aware of the risk reduction Rhogam is believed to provide for an Rh positive fetus. I'm asking only about the mother's health.]

As an adjunct question, say a mother who hasn't had a Rhogam shot during pregnancy becomes sensitized during the birth of her first child, due to blood mixing at that time. If she plans to have no children, do you consider the antibodies she then produces to pose any immunological or other drawbacks for her?


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Sensitisation to the Rhesus blood group, which includes the antigens C, c, D, d, E and e, can happen before or during birth, especially with Rhesus D, if the mother is Rhesus negative and her baby is Rhesus positive.

Individuals with blood group O Rhesus negative are considered universal donors, as their red cells do not carry antigens to A, B or D. Consequently O negative blood can generally be transfused to individuals of any blood group.


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Indeed, it can happen with any trauma that mixes the blood systems - including amniocentesis. However, there's debate about whether Rhogam should be given prophylactically to pregnant mothers as most of the time the trauma that mixes the blood systems (if it does) is the birth itself. (Talking about first births here.)
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Ran across an interesting stat:

Overall, 16% of Rh-negative women will become sensitized after their first pregnancy if not given Rhogam.
ABO incompatibility reduces this risk to 4-5%.[5]
The reduced risk of Rh sensitization with ABO incompatibility may result from the rapid clearance of incompatible red cells thus reducing the overall exposure to D antigen.
http://www.obfocus.com/high-risk/Rh_disease/rh_diseasepr.htm
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It is this very reason why my gyny tried everything else to not let me have a blood transfusion after the birth of my first baby when having post natal bleeding ... in case the O- had some antibodies   and put future babies at risk (treated with fluid iron drips and oxytocin hormone drips - didn't do much for the fatigue  though

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It is this very reason why my gyny tried everything else to not let me have a blood transfusion after the birth of my first baby when having post natal bleeding ... in case the O- had some antibodies  iron drips  and put future babies at risk (treated with fluid iron drips and oxytocin hormone drips - didn't do much for the fatigue  though


Good to know. Did you not have Rhogam during pregnancy or afterward? (Also, like what decade was this?) Sounds like you had an on-the-ball OBGYN.
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Had a shot within 48 hours ... a scary situation as placenta came away before birth and then uterus would not contract hence profuse bleeding during & after.  This was back in 1980
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how can 2 O's be a challenge? if you're both O, then you have similar personality characteristics. i don't get it.
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I see no reason that two O's would be concerned with having unhealthy children!!!!! O is a very hardy type, I'll have you know...been around long enough, and will be for quite awhile! (hail the O!)
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Both my wife (Pip) and I are "O" negative secretors, we have three children.

First one is "O" negative secretor male.

Second one is "A" positive secretor Male.

Third one is "O" negative secretor female.

We were unaware of the significance of this until we learned about the BTD!  

How many of you can explain how this happens?  John.


 
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I see no reason that two O's would be concerned with having unhealthy children!!!!! O is a very hardy type, I'll have you know...been around long enough, and will be for quite awhile! (hail the O!)


I don't have the research at my fingertips now, but recall reading something about how the incidence of either RH negatives or type O RH negatives (I forget which) was actually higher than basic genetic statistical likelihoods would suggest - that is, there are things going on during pregnancy that foster survival or selection of the O- or just - types quite a bit more than would be expected (despite type incompatibilities between mother and father etc.). In other words, as-yet not fully explained hardiness. (I think this was probably about O- )


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Both my wife (Pip) and I are "O" negative secretors, we have three children.

First one is "O" negative secretor male.

Second one is "A" positive secretor Male.

Third one is "O" negative secretor female.

We were unaware of the significance of this until we learned about the BTD!  

How many of you can explain how this happens?  John.


Well, the answer is: "ADOPTION"

How do you think that the poor wee "A" got on, living in a family full of "O's" and nobody having a clue about the difference that blood group makes!

Despite what we didn't know then but we do know now, our wee (6ft-1 x a yard across the shoulders) boy has grown into a magnificent man, husband to a lovely woman (also an adopted child) and father to two beautiful kids and they are all "O's" too!

Adoption has been very kind to us.   Cheers John.







 
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Say, anyone who's decent at statistics - what are the odds of John (an O-) serendipitously meeting and marrying another O- (as his wife indeed is) in the first place?
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I'm no statistician, but the odds are not at all difficult....
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Like 1.5 in 10 in the U.S. or something?
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Like 1.5 in 10 in the U.S. or something?


Well, in New Zealand it is probably the reverse.

It is in our immediate family anyway!

Maybe that's why we are considered (by some) to be such an aggressive nation!    John.


 
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... why we are considered (by some) to be such an aggressive nation!


I was not aware of this! Well, the Basques have been called stubborn before too.

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Well, it's just a guess. I don't really know anybody elses blood types, because they don't follow the diet. So who knows? Do you have a good relationship with another O?

This may be just a coincidence, but I have noticed, since starting the BTD and becoming interested in all things blood type-related, that almost all of my "BFFs", i.e., closest friends, are Type A.  I'm talking, my best friend from high school, one of my best friends from college, one of my dearest friends ever, ever, EVER from childhood, etc.  It seems if I ask a BFF their blood type and they know it, it's A.  A, A, A!  BFFs = blood type A in my life, not sure why.  Again, could just be coincidence, there are a lot of A's out and about.


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