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Tarrenae
Saturday, May 12, 2007, 11:51am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hey everyone,

I am having another flair-up of severe lower back pain and stiffness,I nearly pass out from pain if I try sitting or when im going from a laying down to sitting and standing position the pain is almost unbareable.I had this problem for the first time a couple years ago when I was sitting at the computer and suddenly threw out my back.I wasn't able to sit up or stand for weeks and had to be taken into the ER via a stretcher (which by the way didn't go so hot.Anyway I am having another flairup of it and ITS EXCRUCIATINGLY PAINFUL.I don't have insurance so its hard for me to go for chiropractic adjustments and all.I know eventually I need to go to the doc for that but for now I would like some advice on how to manage myself and the pain and be able to move around more,as it is I am only comfortable when im laying flat on my back.Please HELP!I DONT WANNA BE IMMOBILE AGAIN FOR DAYS.

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I'm so sorry to hear about ur horrible experience; from what I've learned u're probably very acidic ...
R u totally compliant ?
It would be very important, ESPECIALLY at this point to eat extremely well and stretching exercises would help immensely; if u can manage anything at all ...

U will most definately need to see a professional though 'cause u can NOT wait around and watch urself get worst ...
Drinking water is also essential and perhaps Glucosamine/MSM may help in the future ... if it's ok with ur blood type  

I would stick to a high protein diet at this time and vegetables and whatever fruits u're allowed to have and keep urself away from one position for too long a period.

Wishing u all the best and I'm certain that many more people will come along shortly and help u out and give u many more pointers/advice.

PLEASE keep us posted,  Cheers


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Tarrenae
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hey kyosha nim and Lisalea,

thanks for the tips....I don't have msm around the house right now,but I can get some I do have

vitamin C with glucosamine and chondroitin

and homeopathic backache medicine

im taking both,and rubbing my back with some cream called back
rescue its herbal with things like arnica and white willow bark.

iam laying flat because every other position hurts.
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Hi Tarrenae,


we type-0s must stay clear of chondriotin ... it is best for us to take n-acetyl -glucosamine or (n-acetlyl-galactocosamine?) instead of the regular glucosamine .... hit the search button on this site for more info

John


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taking chondroitin for O's is like getting hit with a bad infusion of A blood...the main sugars of both chondroitin and the A antigen is N-acetyl-Galactosamaine

people get  Galactosomine and Glucosamine mixed up...they are not the same

Chondroitin is great for A's and AB's


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Dimethyl Sulfoxide (DMSO),
and bromelain.....reiki and excersise, have been mentioned by Dr D.
don t forget to load up on Bromelain!
helps releive the swelling and discomfort...
kombu is a rich source of naturally-occurring
MSG (monosodium glutamate),


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I concur w/ the being compliant suggestion. I know things like high fructose corn syrup and even other sugars can make my lower back hurt.
I remember right when I was coming aboard BTD, someone had mentioned they had lower back pain all the time until getting on BTD.  On BTD, it went away. I was a little skeptical about that remark until I proved it to myself.    Nothing like first hand experience.
Hope you will be feeling better very soon.



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My formula for body aches or back pain~on an empty stomach:

1500 mg bromelain
1-2 capsules of Dr. D's Quercetin
1 capsule MSM
1 capsule of Deflect
1,000 to 2,000 mg of Glucosamine Sulfate

You can also add
Boswellia


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I had the same problem and all I did was every morning I stretched and did push ups...quality over quantity...which strengthens all the axillary muscles in the back...I've been back pain free for 6 years and I too had excruciating pain where three colleagues from work had to lift me in the chair I was sitting in to a van to take me home


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after you get your pain under control give yoga a try.
It sure has helped my more than I can describe.


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Approx. 10 years ago when I had a sprained neck I went to the chiropractor for the very first time.  (I had the name of an excellent one in my brain in case anything happened to my back, or something, and he is gentle, not rough!!) At first, I did have to go often but then less and less.  He gave me papain, too, and I have never forgotten that.  Could be that a combination of papain and bromelain would be useful to you.  And, yes, Arnica is very useful, too.  

I know it is expensive to pay out of pocket and I appreciate that fact having paid out of pocket for a homeopath, naturopath and chiropractor for years.  Finally, the chiropractor is paid by insurance, at least.  If only insurance companies would pay for all these more natural ways of healing then we would have healthier people, wouldn't you say?  But, that's an old story!

I'm so sorry you are in such pain.  Everyone is being so helpful to you and you'll have to keep us posted on your progress.  Good luck!  
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I know it is expensive to pay out of pocket and I appreciate that fact having paid out of pocket for a homeopath, naturopath and chiropractor for years.  Finally, the chiropractor is paid by insurance,


Went to the endo's yest..........mentioned I didnt want to repeat the adrenal saliva testing right now as it's expensive. He asked "why because the ins doesn't pay for it". I said "yes".  He asked why I thought that was and I said "Because they're stupid". He didn't like that answer much
To me it is stupid. So much pain and suffering could be alleviated naturally if only...................          but then yes, the MD's, big pharms, yada yada yada would be hurt financially. Sad the we are no more important than that, but such is life.  



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Make sure you’re well hydrated. When your body is low on water it goes to the critical areas first like the brain.

There are many excellent back exercises out there.  If your doctor doesn’t recommend any, you could do a Google search.

If you can afford it, go to a Chiropractor.  It is worth it.


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If you can, get glucosamine without the chondroitin, as Os don't do well with chondroitin for the reasons Mikeo mentioned. MSM, bromelain, quercetin, elderberry concentrate, all help with pain. In the case of elderberry, it is specific to leg pain and might help your back as well. I would also suggest valerian to help your muscles relax and also calm you mentally. Valerian works very gently, with no side effects. It does have a weird smell, but you get used to it Valerian used in combination with Rhodiola is a great way to relieve stress, which could be of help to you mentally and emotionally. Being in that much sustained severe pain takes a toll on you more than physically and causes enormous stress.

I've had severe lower back pain in the past, so I know what you're going through, believe me. Hang in there. This too shall pass.




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My Dad has this book on trigger point therapy and swears by it.  Hope you get some relief soon.  

http://www.triggerpointbook.com/


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Quoted from mikeo
I had the same problem and all I did was every morning I stretched and did push ups...quality over quantity...which strengthens all the axillary muscles in the back...I've been back pain free for 6 years and I too had excruciating pain where three colleagues from work had to lift me in the chair I was sitting in to a van to take me home


All that plus walking, sit-ups and staying well hydrated for me.
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Quoted from Tarrenae
Hey everyone,

I am having another flair-up of severe lower back pain and stiffness,I nearly pass out from pain if I try sitting or when im going from a laying down to sitting and standing position the pain is almost unbareable.I had this problem for the first time a couple years ago when I was sitting at the computer and suddenly threw out my back.I wasn't able to sit up or stand for weeks and had to be taken into the ER via a stretcher (which by the way didn't go so hot.Anyway I am having another flairup of it and ITS EXCRUCIATINGLY PAINFUL.I don't have insurance so its hard for me to go for chiropractic adjustments and all.I know eventually I need to go to the doc for that but for now I would like some advice on how to manage myself and the pain and be able to move around more,as it is I am only comfortable when im laying flat on my back.Please HELP!I DONT WANNA BE IMMOBILE AGAIN FOR DAYS.


Hi Tarrenae,

If you get no relief at all and you are still desperate, try these guys, I presume you are in the USA!

 http://www.laserspineinstitute.com

I think I would if I was over there!   Cheers John.


 
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yeppers, here I am also for all kind of strength for the backmuscles....aannddd please once upon your time, go for the books of Dr. John Sarno (mind over backpain & devided mind) but first exercises......
I do em as well and that's really helping ....  even with my so well known lazyness
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Hi,  I've been an on and off lurker, but I saw this and I just had to post.

I had a back injury a while back and I had PT (stretches and strengtheners) with ultrasound for about 6 weeks.  But since that isn't an option for you right now, I would start with using a heat pack on the area in pain.  I was told that if heat doesn't give relief, to try ice...that the lower back is an area that is ok to switch like that.  In either case, you should apply your pack for 20 min, the leave off for 20 min.

When you feel comfortable, do stretches for the hamstrings, hip flexors, thighs and glutes.  Make sure you are GENTLE and pick the variation that doesn't twist the spine.  I got a handout, but they are common stretches that I'm sure you can google.  (These: http://www.spine-health.com/topics/conserv/easyexercise/easyexercise01.html are kind of like what I got, except I got another glute stretch, well, and the hipflexor stretch I got was a little different.

Also, I would strongly recommend getting into a Pilates class.  (Pilates is a system of core training originally developed for rehab of injured soldiers.)  While the PT helped me avoid pain, I wasn't really "cured" until I took Pilates from a good, qualified instructor.

hth, and take care!
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Hi,  I've been an on and off lurker,!


bomega, just wanted to wish you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums!!     Glad you stopped lurking and jumped in to participate. Hope to see you around again.  



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bomega,
thanks for sharing and welcome!


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I also have some trouble with backpain.

I read the book of Dr Sarno "Healing backpain" When ever the pain shoots in. and that could be any time, I say to myself that it is a muscle and nothing serious. There is some psychological stress I tell myself
And guess........a few hours later it is gone or even sooner
It is a great book to read.
Sorry it is not the diet, but may be it will help you too

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