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jayney-O
Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 7:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Maybe try to start small, buy some rice pasta spaghetti style for that bolognese night and show her that it is just as good. Then start making rice to go with the pot roast, etc.  Let her feel that the menu is hers but you are just adding in extras. And it is hard, good luck!
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koahiatamadl, great post (#27).  I agree with much of what you wrote. Some situations are just hopeless, while others work w/ some changes. Hopefully for anneofjulie things will work themselves out smoothly.  




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Lynn: I've been overweight for years so I've tried heaps of weight loss diets: Weight Watchers; Diet No More; Low Carb High Protein; Low fat etc, etc. Lots!!!

koahiatamadl: I totally agree with your points: I pay board, I've always been in charge of cleaning my room, I clean the bathroom, I help with dishes and ALWAYS clean up after I've been cooking. I've offered to do my own washing and ironing but my mum doesn't like people using the washing machine for their own clothes. Too much water or something... even though there's a water level choice on the washing machine! I'm beginning to see my mums a bit of a control freak, hey?!!

Last night I had a break through, though. I decided that instead of the bolognese sauce I would cook some Outrageous Sauteed Tofu from the recipe database (which is divine!) and she didn't complain once. Her only comment was, "Could you let me know if you're going to be cooking your own dinner so I don't cook so much?" Which is a fair request. More than that, she was actually interested and tried the tofu. I think she's beginning to see that I'm really serious about the BTD. All positive baby steps.

Thanks all!
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anneofjulie, very glad to hear things went well last night. Positive thoughts for tomorrow.  



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Alia Vo
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Thank you for sharing your personal experiences and helpful tips with us, koahiatamadl.

Alia


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km,
thanks!


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Quoted from anneofjulie

Last night I had a break through, though. I decided that instead of the bolognese sauce I would cook some Outrageous Sauteed Tofu from the recipe database (which is divine!) and she didn't complain once. Her only comment was, "Could you let me know if you're going to be cooking your own dinner so I don't cook so much?" Which is a fair request. More than that, she was actually interested and tried the tofu. I think she's beginning to see that I'm really serious about the BTD. All positive baby steps.


Good to hear you're making progress.  
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km...wonderful post.  After you are done at Lola's would you come to my house.  Yeah, yeah Isa...I know...Field Marshall.  

anneofjulie...great job girlie...and you even got your mom to try your meal.  Keep up the good work.  Yes...all positive baby steps.

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Rice pasta is just the kind of substitution I am talking about! So far, so good....


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i'm kind of sick trying to convince people to do stuff, and in total vainness. but i still try to do it. i think it's worth trying if you believe that it's the right thing to do, and even when you know that they're nothing but stubborn fools.
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i'm kind of sick trying to convince people to do stuff, and in total vainness. but i still try to do it. i think it's worth trying if you believe that it's the right thing to do, and even when you know that they're nothing but stubborn fools.


It's been my experience that it's better to lead by example than to try to "convince".


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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i'm kind of sick trying to convince people to do stuff, and in total vainness. but i still try to do it. i think it's worth trying if you believe that it's the right thing to do, and even when you know that they're nothing but stubborn fools.


Drea is right, I also have the philosophy to plant, water, repeat............all of it as gently as a slow spring rain     no amount of 'preaching' will work if they are not immediately receptive.  




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is there a good way to tell if i am a secretor or a non-secretor without actually getting tested?
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you can start following the non secretor food lists carefully, and see about results.

I ate like a nonnie for as long as I can remember, did so well everyone thought I was a secretor, even myself, but with a nonnie twist......
turns out I m a lewis double negative, which is a nonnie after all!!


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is there a good way to tell if i am a secretor or a non-secretor without actually getting tested?


Sorry. There is no way to really know, except to take the test.  There might be some clues, however in your health, and how your digestive system deals with foods you have been eating for a long time.

How old are you?  How many cavities do you have?  What has your health been like so far?  What health issues are you currently dealing with?  



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i am 21; no cavities; always been pretty thin; no weight change with starting the diet, except healthier and more energetic.
what lola said before, you mean if a secretor followed the non-secretor diet, then the secretor would be better off? i didn't get what you said.
been following BTD for a year now.
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is there a good way to tell if i am a secretor or a non-secretor without actually getting tested?

this is what I was referring to, cause you asked......
but is you have been following the secretor guidelines and are ok, then you probably are a secretor.

and you have no health challenges, either, right?

keep doing what you are doing, and you ll be fine.



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I would approach mum about your diet from the health angle and how certain foods make you feel after you eat them. Tell her you love her cooking, however, in an effort to improve your health you've discovered that certain foods don't agree with you.
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If you don't want to take the test go to your Dential hygenst and they can give you a good idea if you are a secetor or not.
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are non-secretors more likely to get cavities?
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yes, and the reason why avocados are beneficial for Ononnies.


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nope..nope..nope.. dearle rosstersis..... *fieldmarshall* is your life & mental safer this is a very good side for survival training .......na..naa.na..naaa..naaaa.naaaaa........


p.s. about *unbelievers*:

hm...if I got a hammer...I'd hammer in the morning...I'd hammer in the  afternoon...all over the land.......

the key to their understandings and soul is to see how psychepattern were run....if not..... *mission impossible*   .....that's it what was meant when I wrote about my arrogance.....I've lo learn to speak in their languages....nothing else....a question of resonances ;)   ...and here I got sooooo lazy .........

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chickie...chickie...chickie




hhmmmmm...did ya looked once into Riso's and the background of ESFP'J-s.........
easier to understand what's happening .....and what n o t .........

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so beneficials and avoids without a description are of lesser importance? so a typical avoid with no lectin or agglutination or protein negative description is much lesser of avoid than if it had a description? say like for an O nonsecretor, oatmeal, strawberries, and apples are typically ok if the nonsecretor is in good shape? As well as feta cheese and goat cheese?
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