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Lisalea
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Hi !!

I absolutely love fruits and eat ALOT of it !! ... 4- 5- 6 per day "everyday"
Is this ok for B's ??
Any B's out there that eat so much fruit on a daily basis ?
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as long as it doesn t affect your weight, or have candida or other issues to deal with, I say go for it!!


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preferably eaten alone or first thing in the morning


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I agree with Mikeo, and try to emphasize the beneficial ones!    



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I try to eat only beneficial fruits for my blood type.  Fruit can be expensive, so I stick with the ones I know are good!  I probably eat more portions than recommended, but enjoy it.  I mostly put them in a morning smoothie.  Seems to work well for me.  At night before bed, I have been having some frozen blueberries in a bowl as well.

Low sugar fruits are okay at night, I think.

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At night before bed, I have been having some frozen blueberries in a bowl as well.Low sugar fruits are okay at night, I think.


Are you meaning blueberries are a low sugar fruit? If so, if I'm not mistaken they are a high glycemic food............   but if they don't bother you, I'm sure it's good for your body to have a beneficial at bedtime. .



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I would emphasis the beneficial fruits or super beneficial fruits if one is following one of the Health Series books.

A focus on the dark hued fruits has more antioxidant benefits.

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Thanks everybody !!
I do eat fruits alone sometimes ... however; often I will eat blueberries with cottage cheese and honey with a few walnuts on top ... Yummi !!!
or
a banana rolled up in a tortilla with almond butter ... Delicious

Another thing that is soooo wonderful is frozen red grapes with
plain natural yogurt ... a real treat !!!

Do my fellow B'S indulge in honey on a daily basis ??
That's what I've been taking in alot of lately especially since I have stopped eating desserts ... gotta replace all that bad sugar with a healthier one, hence I figured honey would be my best bet ...  


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If your are eating fruits with the fats and carbs and you have any digestive problems doing so, then you're fine.  

Some people food combine/separate to assist with digestive challenges.

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According to the typebase blueberries are a diabetes superbenificial for all types except O for which they are a beneficial. That ties in with the fruit quantities my diabetic dad is allowed:2 figs or a cup of blueberries. He, a B,  has verified that with his blood sugar meter.
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Honey is still a sweetener and therefore you will probably be better off using it sparingly. When you use it with fruit you are getting a double whammy of sugar.


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If your are eating fruits with the fats and carbs and you have any digestive problems doing so, then you're fine.  

Some people food combine/separate to assist with digestive challenges.

Alia


Hmmmm I do have some digestive issues; thats why usually I try to eat my fruit alone
but with cottage cheese or yogurt and especially with honey and a few walnuts it's such a treat !!!
and I figured that it's better than having a fatty dessert all the time ...


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Honey is still a sweetener and therefore you will probably be better off using it sparingly. When you use it with fruit you are getting a double whammy of sugar.


Hi MoDon,
Hope u're well ?

U're probably right ... I guess I'd be better off putting honey in my tea instead, right ??

I'll make a mental note of that and just save those types of treats when I'm having a sugar attack !!

Thank-u


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You might want to test the food separation method for a day or week and see if your digestive symptoms change.

I have fruit with my breakfast which includes a protein source, a grain source, and a nut/seed source.  I eat two more servings of fruit later in the day only as a snack in between meals.

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Lisalea,
Or, you could gradually wean yourself off sweetners.    You are eating a lot of fruit which actually has a lot of natural sugar.  Your body will quickly get used to doing without it.  I never would have believed that I could ever give up honey!  Especially in my tea!  But I haven't eaten it in years, and sweet tea now tastes so wrong to me.  Blueberries, cherries, pineapple, grapes . . they are so nicely sweet just by themselves.



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Being a be keeper - I use some honey - but not a lot
- I would say 1 tbls sweetner maximum pr day - that includes honey, maplesirup and moscavado sugar
- Off course some days I have none - other days - like saturday- I might have a dessert- and it would be more.
I neveruse it in tea- but on my yoghurt it is nice. I don´t really eat jams anymore- but sometimes a bit of stewed fruit is nice- and I´ll use small ammounts for that.

Fruit is very varied:
I eat about 2 servings of fruit now- but that is wintertime- My body does not want it
- while in high summer - I would be closer to 3-4 servings - all the berries and watermelon......


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Quoted from Henriette_Bsec
Being a be keeper - I use some honey - but not a lot
- I would say 1 tbls sweetner maximum pr day - that includes honey, maplesirup and moscavado sugar
- Off course some days I have none - other days - like saturday- I might have a dessert- and it would be more.
I neveruse it in tea- but on my yoghurt it is nice. I don´t really eat jams anymore- but sometimes a bit of stewed fruit is nice- and I´ll use small ammounts for that.

Fruit is very varied:
I eat about 2 servings of fruit now- but that is wintertime- My body does not want it
- while in high summer - I would be closer to 3-4 servings - all the berries and watermelon......



Wow, good for u, u really have control .. I love sugar thats the real problem that I have to deal with ... hence it's NOT that easy to just eat 1 tablespoon in total per day grrrrrr
Thanks for ur input


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Or, you could gradually wean yourself off sweetners.    You are eating a lot of fruit which actually has a lot of natural sugar.  Your body will quickly get used to doing without it.  I never would have believed that I could ever give up honey!  Especially in my tea!  But I haven't eaten it in years, and sweet tea now tastes so wrong to me.  Blueberries, cherries, pineapple, grapes . . they are so nicely sweet just by themselves.


Hi Victoria hope u're well today ?

U're right sugar isn't such a good thing in the end but at
least I'm eating fruits and honey instead of fatty desserts ... one step at a time ... easy does it  

What do u eat for sweet treats (if I may ask) ???

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I have fruit with my breakfast which includes a protein source, a grain source, and a nut/seed source.





Sounds interesting ... can u give me an example and any other ideas on how u eat them (combine)??
Thanks alot !!




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U're right sugar isn't such a good thing in the end but at
least I'm eating fruits and honey instead of fatty desserts ... one step at a time ... easy does it  

As a type B fatty desserts (as long as they are healthy fats) might be better for you then too many carbs from sugars/sweeteners.  


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I used to eat a lot of fruit, UNTIL I moved to the UK.
Cost and quality basically forces one to stick to more veggies.

Apparently it will be MANGO SEASON when I go to India this summer!!!


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As a type B fatty desserts (as long as they are healthy fats) might be better for you then too many carbs from sugars/sweeteners.  



By fatty desserts I meant rich cakes
I'm trying to cut down on cakes, cookies, muffins etc ...
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I used to eat a lot of fruit, UNTIL I moved to the UK.
Cost and quality basically forces one to stick to more veggies.

Apparently it will be MANGO SEASON when I go to India this summer!!!



Oh mangoes r sooo delicious !!!

Enjoy !!


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Those dessert are also loaded with carbs, not just fats.

Stick with your fruit and honey.  



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Those dessert are also loaded with carbs, not just fats.

Stick with your fruit and honey.  





That's my thoughts exact !!!  
TY  


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LisaLea,
You asked about my sweet treats.
My breakfast is a wonderful, marvelous smoothie with blended frozen blueberries and cherries, pineapple or cherry or concord grape juice, with ProBerry liquid, banana, goat yogurt, ground flax, green powder, lecithin and nutritional yeast.  This is basically my fruit intake for the day and my breakfast as well.  But it's such a treat that it is also a comfort food.  I have no cravings after this.

The toasted rice cakes with walnut/almond butter and blackstrap molasses is the closest I come to eating snacks.  This is my light meal that I eat a couple of hours before bed.  That's when I find I like a carb food, and it also helps me sleep.  There's just enough blackstrap molasses to give the right amount of sweetness.



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imo, addiction to sweet signifys other problems.  I think you should look it to this LisaLea, too much sweet is not good it is unbalancing and hard on the spleen and stomach, sure to lead to more problems in the future



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imo, addiction to sweet signifys other problems.


Such as.............  



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candida, bowel dybosis and overgrowth, inflammation, malabsorbtion, insulin sensitivity.......as well as some psychological issues (not meaning this in a bad way) but depression, excessive stress, in general, increased cortisol levels and/or issue with dopamine production or reception (depending on blood type)



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LisaLea,
You asked about my sweet treats.
My breakfast is a wonderful, marvelous smoothie with blended frozen blueberries and cherries, pineapple or cherry or concord grape juice, with ProBerry liquid, banana, goat yogurt, ground flax, green powder, lecithin and nutritional yeast.  This is basically my fruit intake for the day and my breakfast as well.  But it's such a treat that it is also a comfort food.  I have no cravings after this.

The toasted rice cakes with walnut/almond butter and blackstrap molasses is the closest I come to eating snacks.  This is my light meal that I eat a couple of hours before bed.  That's when I find I like a carb food, and it also helps me sleep.  There's just enough blackstrap molasses to give the right amount of sweetness.




Thank-u for sharing that ... the smoothie sounds heavenly, wow !!  
I wonder though if taking lecithin and nutritional yeast on a daily basis is a good idea ... since I have always read that we should NOT be eating the same stuff over and over again day after day ... am I wrong??  
or is it better to vary our meals ?
Thanks again Victoria


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candida, bowel dybosis and overgrowth, inflammation, malabsorbtion, insulin sensitivity.......as well as some psychological issues (not meaning this in a bad way) but depression, excessive stress, in general, increased cortisol levels and/or issue with dopamine production or reception (depending on blood type)



I think u r absolutely right actually !!!
sigh ...
I truly appreciate u mentioning this for others as well as myself that have some sort of addiction to sugar although I'm working on it ... like everything else in life ... it's an extremely hard habit to break !!!
God bless u  


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Thank-u for sharing that ... the smoothie sounds heavenly, wow !!  
I wonder though if taking lecithin and nutritional yeast on a daily basis is a good idea ... since I have always read that we should NOT be eating the same stuff over and over again day after day ... am I wrong??  
or is it better to vary our meals ?
Thanks again Victoria


I agree in general theory about varying our diet.  But there are some things that I have everyday, like yogurt, my smoothie ingredients, and rice cakes.  Other things, I rotate, like the type of vegetables I eat.  There is a wide variety in those.  And there is variety in whether I have lamb, sardines, eggs, or buffalo.  I rotate sweet potatoes with sweet squashes.  So I have a mixture of consistent and variety.

By the way, I consider lecithin to be a necessary nutrient for health.  And nutritional yeast is for additional protein in a liquid breakfast, also rich in B vitamins to make for less need to swallow vitamins.



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I agree in general theory about varying our diet.  But there are some things that I have everyday, like yogurt, my smoothie ingredients, and rice cakes.  Other things, I rotate, like the type of vegetables I eat.  There is a wide variety in those.  And there is variety in whether I have lamb, sardines, eggs, or buffalo.  I rotate sweet potatoes with sweet squashes.  So I have a mixture of consistent and variety.

By the way, I consider lecithin to be a necessary nutrient for health.  And nutritional yeast is for additional protein in a liquid breakfast, also rich in B vitamins to make for less need to swallow vitamins.



That sounds good to me Victoria !!
Thank-u.
U know what I also do at times ?
I add NYF to a small bowl of basmati rice with a little bit of olive oil and seasalt ... it's such a special taste !!
I will start to incorporate NYF and Lecithin more often now !!


What grains do u eat ??
I eat basmati rice and millet very often ... a few times per week I will also eat oatmeal and manna bread ...  I wonder if u may have any other ideas ?? I appreciate it


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LisaLea,
I'm not much of a grain eater, so I can't help you there.  I used to eat Basmati Rice and Millet, but I really feel better, with few cravings, if I stay away from the grains.  But like I said before, I have one or two rice cakes with nut butter.  That's my only grain.



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Lisalea:
I eat basmatirice,ricecakes, millet, quinoa and oats.
I try to stick to a max of 1 serving pr day-in the weekend maybe 2 servings(- max 9 servings pr week)
BUT sadly at the moment I crave grains....so I get a bit more

In weekends a bit of spelt as well- mainly as bread or cake- but B secretors really do better with whole grains than flour products.
In summer I almost eat no grain- so it is a seasonal thing for me.


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LisaLea,
I'm not much of a grain eater, so I can't help you there.  I used to eat Basmati Rice and Millet, but I really feel better, with few cravings, if I stay away from the grains.  But like I said before, I have one or two rice cakes with nut butter.  That's my only grain.


Oh my ... really ????
Where do u get ur strength from ??????
I was under the impression that we absolutely need carbs for strength !!
Do u get ur carbs from ONLY eating vegetables ??
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Lisalea:
I eat basmatirice,ricecakes, millet, quinoa and oats.
I try to stick to a max of 1 serving pr day-in the weekend maybe 2 servings(- max 9 servings pr week)
BUT sadly at the moment I crave grains....so I get a bit more

In weekends a bit of spelt as well- mainly as bread or cake- but B secretors really do better with whole grains than flour products.
In summer I almost eat no grain- so it is a seasonal thing for me.


I appreciate ur reply Henriette_Bsec
Thanks
What do u mean by :
but B secretors really do better with whole grains than flour products. ??

I eat about 1- 1 1/2 cup  of cooked grain (rice or millet ... etc )
per day ... I wonder if this is too much ???

I also eat at least 1- 1 1/2 cup of vegetables everysingle day
except on weekends sometimes I eat less ... or none ...

I wonder if this is a good balance for B'S ??


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I eat about 1- 1 1/2 cup  of cooked grain (rice or millet ... etc )
per day ... I wonder if this is too much ???

I also eat at least 1- 1 1/2 cup of vegetables everysingle day
except on weekends sometimes I eat less ... or none ...

I wonder if this is a good balance for B'S ??

That is more grains than what is recommended and less vegetables. It appears that you would be better off to put a lot more focus on vegetables in your diet.


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That is a TON of grain, how tall are you, are you extremely athletic and need all of that grain for training?  



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A TON ??????
Oh my goodness !!!

and that's when I control myself

'cause I really love grains especially bread ... sigh ...

I'm 5'6" 130 pounds ... however; I'm NOT training right now ...
I do walk everyday though from 20 minutes - 1 hour (more or less).

When it say 5-9 grains per week for B's... I was under the impression that it meant up to
5-9 cups of  UNCOOKED grains ??

I'm eating about 11-12 cups per week  but that's "COOKED" grains (rice, millet ... etc) ... doesn't this make all the difference ??

I also eat dairy on a daily basis from 1/2- 1 cup of either yogurt, cottage cheese, kefir, mozzarella, ... etc  ... and I started to eat FETA cheese a couple times per week since I've learned that it's beneficial for B's.
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That's a lot of grains, girl!!  

Sometimes the portion recommendations can be a little confusing.  Most of us have started out with way more grains than we are presently eating.  And so many of us have discovered that the less grains we eat, the better we feel.  If you are a B nonnie, this will be expecially true.  I think the secretors can cope with a little more, but honestly, I no longer look at grains as a food that is very healthy.



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imo, addiction to sweet signifys other problems.  I think you should look it to this LisaLea, too much sweet is not good it is unbalancing and hard on the spleen and stomach, sure to lead to more problems in the future


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I think we all used to love bread at some point in time before the BTD, but I think just about all of us have discovered that for best health only limited grains servings can be eaten.

There is a point of confusion about the serving size of grains/starches. For instance, in LR4YT for type O and AB the serving size is indicated to be 1/2 cup dry and for type B and A the serving size is stated as 1 cup dry. However, in the Aging book the serving size is 1/2 cup dry; 1 muffin; 2 slices of bread for all blood types. I tend to believe the serving size should be 1/2 cup for everyone in all the books.

Therefore, you you might want to reconsider how much you are eating.


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Liaslea   What is moscavado sugar?


I think I wrote moscavado sugur- silly dane that can´t spell;-)
Any way it is very dark sugar with molasses in.

"My" servings of grains are :
1 serving= 2 slices of bread, or 100 grams uncooked pasta or 50 grams uncooked other grain (oats, millet etc.)

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What do u mean by :
but B secretors really do better with whole grains than flour products. ??


Whole spelt ( kernels) is beneficial while spelt flour is just neutral.

I agree wit all the rest it sounds like an awfull lot of grains


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I also eat at least 1- 1 1/2 cup of vegetables everysingle day
except on weekends sometimes I eat less ... or none ...



The 'vegetable' food category is one of the food categories where in many cases 'unlimited' is listed for portion size.  In most of the ER4YT Health Series books, super/beneficial vegetables are portioned as unlimited in quantity; and 2-3 cups for neutral vegetables.

In the LR book, vegetables are the only food category that have an unlimited quantity (raw and cooked measurements) in regards to blood type A's.

We obtain our vitamins, minerals, phytonutrients, fiber, cellulose from vegetables.

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It may NOT be what I always want to hear, however; it's much appreciated since I do want to strive for a brighter future feeling energetic and strong versus weak and sick ... especially with the everyday stresses against us, not to mention all the diseases out there; we must put everything else on our side.

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I think we all used to love bread at some point in time before the BTD, but I think just about all of us have discovered that for best health only limited grains servings can be eaten.

There is a point of confusion about the serving size of grains/starches. For instance, in LR4YT for type O and AB the serving size is indicated to be 1/2 cup dry and for type B and A the serving size is stated as 1 cup dry. However, in the Aging book the serving size is 1/2 cup dry; 1 muffin; 2 slices of bread for all blood types. I tend to believe the serving size should be 1/2 cup for everyone in all the books.

Therefore, you you might want to reconsider how much you are eating.




It's VERY confusing actually !!!  
I take it then that instead of  5-9 DRY (grains) cups per week; it SHOULD read 2 1/2 - 4 1/2 DRY (grains) cups per week ... right ??


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I take it then that instead of  5-9 DRY (grains) cups per week; it SHOULD read 2 1/2 - 4 1/2 DRY (grains) cups per week ... right ??

That is one way to think about it.

Or 5-9 servings of 1/2 cup dry; 1 muffin; 2 slices of bread, which is the way it is written in the Aging book.



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That is one way to think about it.

Or 5-9 servings of 1/2 cup dry; 1 muffin; 2 slices of bread, which is the way it is written in the Aging book.



I'm finally on the right track !!!


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