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jacekk
Sunday, January 21, 2007, 6:08pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi All  

I back on board with 1000 questions ? I did brain storm and many questions came on my mind  . I am not sure if I can open them in this thread  
1. I am a bit frustrated BTD and food available on the market (I live in Europe in Polnad). During the weekend i took a tour trough my local hypermarkets to see what can I to choose from wide range od food. NOT MANY  
Q. can I eat fishes (tune, sardine etc..), fruits and some vegetables form tins ? Tuna is available only in tins   (I know problem with mercury), during the winter season many products are unavailable or are very very expensive or poor quality.
2. I love sport since I was a baybe I have always been playing sport like martial arts, biking, hiking, walking, rock climing, snowboarding etc...
Q. I do excercises 3 times per week in fittnes club (cardio, stretching little lifting), 2 times acrobatic excercises in gym, snowboaridng during the weeknd. I need some isotonic liquid instead of mineral water, what would you recommend ? I found low sugar level during my training.
Q. Doe's any one know some alternatives for DAdamo suplements (cheaper but according to BTD)
Q. How to optimize daily rate of protein, carbo and fat according to BTD , sport, and my lipomas.
Q. What about ordinary white potatoes is it beneficial or avoidable or neutral ?

The rest questions  I will submit soon .

Many thanks in advance for nay suggestions  

Cheers
Jacek
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Hi all,

Short question : "sauna" would you recommend or not for "ABs" ?

I use to go to sauna every sunday for a few years but now I have break however I would like to start again that is why I am asking ?

Cheers
Jacek
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potatoes are neutral, Jacekk
and I'd like to recommend some good olive oils, ghee, and then take a good multivit-multimineral not made of corn; available in your country; I know it's much cheaper then; I like also to recommend to you to try l'arginine, works wonders for us
sauna won't change anything about the problems I fear ; I think it might be hereditaire this problem stop the wheatintake, go for spelt or something else as a benef. or riceflour, better

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Can you buy Turkey? I buy it ground, steaks and cubed ( anyway I can because it is a staple for me)
If you eat tuna in a can the "light" packed in water is the way to go, white has the highest mercury content.
Wild salmon (canned) is a lifesaver for me and pretty cheap.
Omega 3 Eggs. I do lots of omlettes and soft boiled.
Hope it helps  
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Your isotonic drink - water, pinch of seasalt, lemon juice and some compliant fruit juice?

Generally fresh veg would be best and frozen would be preferable to tinned but just do the best you can with the  food available where you live and the money you have!

As for optimising the combination of protein, carbs and exercise - use the portion and frequency guidelines in LR4YT as starting point and optimise these according to your own requirements - just listen to your body!

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you shouldn t try to change the things you do, which make you feel good......
you should try and adapt BTD principles into your lifestyle.
this plan is meant to be individualized according to your needs and reality.

I do not find all the fancy 'whole foods' alternatives for my type, here in Mexico.....but I do find veggies, protein and fruit, to prepare from scratch.........

typebase will give you the values for each food if you have doubts:
top button on this page
and also recibase, will give you loads of good recipes to follow.



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Quoted from Hopeful
Can you buy Turkey? I buy it ground, steaks and cubed ( anyway I can because it is a staple for me)
If you eat tuna in a can the "light" packed in water is the way to go, white has the highest mercury content.
Wild salmon (canned) is a lifesaver for me and pretty cheap.
Omega 3 Eggs. I do lots of omlettes and soft boiled.
Hope it helps  


Yes I can I have been eating Turkey since last year this is only the meat I eat ,
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ISA-MANUELA
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and dear Jacekk whats' about the fishles  there are so many good fishles

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and dear Jacekk whats' about the fishles  there are so many good fishles


HAHAHA   good good, yes it is funny but many people say meat is meat fish is fish  which means neither meat nor weg  heheh

Btw.
What do you think about combaining L'arginine + L-carnityne + Tauryne (separatelly or altogether ) ? I would add some others like L-tirozyne    

thanks all for you ideas  
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Born to ride !!!!

Ride what?



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Quoted from ironwood55

Ride what?



Snowboarding of course...
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hi-hi-hiiiiiii ) hmm l'arginine& l'lysine a fine thingy forrr US ..... l'carnitine too....with the l'tyrosine
take care might augment your thyroide function can make ya a bit overloaded, perhaps let it for our O's confrères ...... but go also for the l'taurine if you think it would help ya
why fishles ....easier to digest for our low stomachacidity; and quicker gone ....... about acidity, would like to recommend ya (fine also for our brainfunction) take some l'histidine or betain HCL before every bigger meal....helps to build up this bloody acidity ....good luck
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Quoted from ISA-MANUELA
and dear Jacekk whats' about the fishles  there are so many good fishles


May be I misunderstood   what exactelly is fishles ? some other meanning ?

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i think isa is saying how great fish is for our blood type.
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for mandi
fish is easier to digest than meat for us .....no-no you'd got it right
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i think isa is saying how great fish is for our blood type.


Iknow fish is good for us, but I am troubled by the fact that many fish are being fished out, and soon, apparently there will not only be not enough fish for us to eat, but the whole ecological balance of the sea will be disabled. If we tackle it from the fish farm point of view, apparently the fish meal that is used there to feed the farmed fish is also depleting the oceans in a dangerous manner. Any opinions?
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Jenny, I heard on NPR today about a list put out by the Monterrey Bay Aquarium listing which seafood is safe to eat, ecologically speaking.  They have a Green = Best, Yellow = Good, & Red = Avoid color coded system on their Seafood Search.

I was especially interested to hear that although swordfish had been endangered, the actions taken in the 90's, particularly by famous chefs to remove the item from their menus, was successful in allowing the "Northern Atlantic stock to be nearly fully rebuilt".  

I really liked the pictures of the different fish...I've never heard of some of the fish that are on the BTD food lists and it was good to get acquainted!  
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lot s of cooking events in their calendar!
do you think the list is available on their website?
is it the Seafood Watch Pocket Guide maybe?

http://www.mbayaq.org/cr/seafoodwatch.asp


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Quoted from lola
lot s of cooking events in their calendar!
do you think the list is available on their website?
is it the Seafood Watch Pocket Guide maybe?

http://www.mbayaq.org/cr/seafoodwatch.asp


thanks Marianne and Lola, that was a great response to my query. Even though the information is rather U.S. oriented, I can still make good use of it.
http://www.mbayaq.org/cr/SeafoodWatch/web/sfw_regional.aspx
Cheerio,
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wow, great link, thanks for sharing!


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Jacekk, I have  friends in Poland.  They're not on the BTD, but the mother has a huge amount of knowledge of fresh, healthy foods and herbs.  Would you be interested in contacting the family?  She's American and he's a Pole.  If you want, I will ask her permission to give you her e-mail address.


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Welcome to the forum, jacekk.

You will be fine doing the activities and finding the best foods available in your locale.  The BTD foods focus on whole, natural foods: vegetables, fruits, appropriate protein sources, appropriate dairy sources, et al.

We each have various access to different fresh foods dependent on factors such as where we live, our personal lifestyle, how much we desire to spend on food/supplements.

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hi-hi-hiiiiiii ) hmm l'arginine& l'lysine a fine thingy forrr US ..... l'carnitine too....with the l'tyrosine
take care might augment your thyroide function can make ya a bit overloaded, perhaps let it for our O's confrères ...... but go also for the l'taurine if you think it would help ya
why fishles ....easier to digest for our low stomachacidity; and quicker gone ....... about acidity, would like to recommend ya (fine also for our brainfunction) take some l'histidine or betain HCL before every bigger meal....helps to build up this bloody acidity ....good luck


Hi hia all,

Tomatila few more questions :

1. You adviced me to take L-arginine and L-lisine - what is the dailly rate and how long period so to see any results. I found some suplements from Hi-Tec Nutrition

L-LISYNE
ingredients (1 kaps):
L-lizyna 600 mg
Niacyna 9 mg
Witamina B6 1 mg
Witamina B12 0,5 mcg

L-ARGININA
ingredients (1 kaps):
L-arginina - 700 mg
Niacyna - 9 mg
Witamina B6 - 1 mg
Witamina B12 - 0,5 mcg

2. I also found some altrenative to NAP Suplements destined for ABO company "Calvita International". I am interested in because it is easier to get and cheaper than NAP. Please have look here is the web page  to the AB porduct http://www.multiwitaminy.com/vitalAB.html and comment what do you think ?

3. My friend who is body builder prepared for me daily rate of whithintake of carbo, fat and proteins. Tis is designed base on age, body fat percentage, type of life tec.

Weight 75kg
Body fat level~25%

Training aerob: intensive  ~3 x week

dailly rate kcal = 2000

Protein (1,5gr/kg.body mass)  = 105gr/per day = 420kcal/per day
Fat (1gr/kg.bd)  = 75 gr/per day = 675kcal/per day
Carbo (3gr/kg.bd) = 225gr/per day= 900kcal/per day

1'st altrenative
Day: 4 meals =~ 500kcal/per meal
in one meal:
   27gr protein
   25gr fat (besides atfter taining meal)
   56gr carbo
  The meal after training should not consit big amount of fat (as little as possible)
   
2'nd alternative
Day: 5 meals =~ 400kcal/per meal
in one meal:
   21gr protein
   19gr fat (besides atfter training meal)
   45gr carbo

   The meal after training should not consit big amount of fat (as little as possible)

Please have look if above algorythm is ok for me according to BTD and my lipomas ? If you have any suggestions please just tell me.

4. You suggested me to stop any sweets, ok I stopped but thw question is how about sugar ? I found "Stevia" dry leafs in my local HFS , can i use this as a sweetener eg. for tee, in baking, cooking etc ? it is on neutral list but...

Many thanks in advance for any help and commnets.

 
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My suggestion is you follow the BTD recommendations and don't worry about carb, fat, and protein amounts or ratios. It works and it is a lot easier.

Besides what blood type is your body builder friend? My guess is he is probably a type O.


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sorry dearle, are you sure that those products are the right-one of Peter's downline

but must say  the ingredients arent' that bad with those amounts of aminoacids, that sounds good
about *stevia* this I think is ok only neutral for AB's secretors, but we don't know if you are a nonnie or a sechi ...so far if you don't get the feeling of might be you are a secretor, if you are a nonnie,
don't wonder it that stuff just - you  

another demand, please, don't do the error and confond O's and AB's ability for sports and don't be if that won't work exactly the same for you as for your friend, therefore we might be quicker and sharper in mental things  
hey ...man...good work go on this way and you feel better and better

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My suggestion is you follow the BTD recommendations and don't worry about carb, fat, and protein amounts or ratios. It works and it is a lot easier.

Besides what blood type is your body builder friend? My guess is he is probably a type O.


My friend is "A" .

I Follow BTD diet and try to go with some sport algorythm diet because when you do some sports you require few more calories (base on your training type and cycle)  than others. Every one is individual (heigt, wieght etc.) so you reaquire different ammount of fat , carbo and protein. That is why I am asking . Am  right or wrong ?  
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sorry dearle, are you sure that those products are the right-one of Peter's downline

but must sya the ingredients arent' that bad with those amounts of aminoacids, that sounds good
about *stevia* this I think is ok only neutral for AB's secretors, but we don't know if you are a nonnie or a sechi ...so far if you don't get the feeling of might be you are a secretor, if you are a nonnie,
don't wonder it that stuff just - you  

another demand, please, don't do the error and confond O's and AB's ability for sports and don't be if that won't work exactly the same for you as for your friend, therefore we might be quicker and sharper in mental things  
hey ...man...good work go on this way and you feel better and better


about alternative suplements I mentioned

Ingredients:
Beta-carotene    1.20  mg
Vitamin E    10.00  mg
Vitamin C    60.00  mg
Vitamin B1    1.40  mg
Vitamin B2    1.60  mg
Vitamin B6    2.00  mg
Vitamin B12    1.00  mcg
Inositol    20.00  mg
PABA (para-amino-benzoic acid)    5.00  mg
Biotin    40.00  mcg
Pantothenic acid    5.00  mg
Folic acid    100.00  mcg
Rutin    4.00  mg
Citrus bioflavonoid    4.00  mg
Quercetin    5.00  mg
Betaine HCl    10.00  mg
Iodine    50.00  mcg
Calcium    100.00  mg
Iron    5.00  mg
Magnesium    80.00  mg
Copper    0.50  mg
Zinc    80.00  mg
Chromium    30.00  mcg
Selenium    40.00  mcg
Manganese    1.00  mg
Potassium    20.00  mg
Molybdenum    80.00  mcg
Boron    50.00  mcg
Vanadium    100.00  mcg
Nickel    30.00  mcg
L-glutathione    5.00  mg
L-Cysteine    10.00  mg
Bromelain    25.00  mg
Red grape skin extract    10.00  mg
Green tea leaf extract    10.00  mg
Licorice root    5.00  mg
Celery leaf    50.00  mg
Broccoli    20.00  mg
Garlic    50.00  mg
Cranberry    20.00  mg
Niacinamide    18.00  mg
Choline bitartarate    20.00  mg
Silicium    1.00  mg

Can You tell me if there are some ingriedents that should be avoided ?
 
As regards my body builder friend and ratio algorythm: he is "A" and this lagorithm is for individul as well depending on your typ of life style, type of excersise, Weight and eg. trianing if its is wieght reducing or body building or others. I don't do body building because it isn't the way I woul'd follow, body building for mi is too boring. I need to do few different dynamic sports because I easylly get bored. I need constantlly changes not to state at one place.

Sweetener : what would you recommend as neutral ?

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hmm, I didn't saw any contradictoires in there, but you might take minim. 2x1 daily especially if you are going for harder workouts, would say even more
sweetener; = let me heared something about agave nectar, I never tried this personally...but seems to be ok for all types

and I apologize I thought that your friend was an O ...so you are both in the same case, don't drain you too much please you might eat similar, but it seems that you will be in need of more proteins, so I'd go for proteinsdrink  
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My friend is "A" .

Is he following the BTD? Why would you follow his advice versus the BTD?

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I Follow BTD diet and try to go with some sport algorythm diet because when you do some sports you require few more calories (base on your training type and cycle)  than others. Every one is individual (heigt, wieght etc.) so you reaquire different ammount of fat , carbo and protein. That is why I am asking . Am  right or wrong ?  

The point is the BTD works and doesn't require you to deal with counting carbs, fats, and protein. That is a lot of extra work and hassle. Why bother with it when you can just generally follow the BTD recommendations.

I agree we are all different and have to adjust the BTD to our body's requirements and exercise will influence that. If you are more active then the BTD exercise recommendations for your type, then up you protein recommendations a little bit.

If you find the serving sizes and frequency recommendations are not sufficient to supply you with enough calories, because you are losing weight or lack energy then one approach is to just up the serving sizes and/or frequency recommendations in all food categories proportionally.

If you want to count calories go ahead and do it.


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I have an awful habit of remembering a fact without remembering the source I heard or read it from but perhaps it is worth repeating anyway:

Stevia is somehow connected to infertility in men.  

Please correct me if I am misquoting or just plain wrong, but if there's a chance it is true, it would be important to let everyone know about it.
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Is he following the BTD? Why would you follow his advice versus the BTD?


The point is the BTD works and doesn't require you to deal with counting carbs, fats, and protein. That is a lot of extra work and hassle. Why bother with it when you can just generally follow the BTD recommendations.

I agree we are all different and have to adjust the BTD to our body's requirements and exercise will influence that. If you are more active then the BTD exercise recommendations for your type, then up you protein recommendations a little bit.

If you find the serving sizes and frequency recommendations are not sufficient to supply you with enough calories, because you are losing weight or lack energy then one approach is to just up the serving sizes and/or frequency recommendations in all food categories proportionally.

If you want to count calories go ahead and do it.


My "A" friend just started with BTD so he needs more practice with that.

If you find the serving sizes and..... Yeah this what am I saying, yes this is rather more "tool" for addjasting proportion and frequency of food than diet - it is very flexible. Normally I follow more or less as D.Adamo procedure "AB" says (proper source of protein, fat and carbo- that is importatnt, and I do my best and do not eat high processed food- that is obvies I'd say). And my qustion was regarding rather freq and portions P,F,C in every meal base on my indyviduality. My "A" friends follows thoroughly different diet dan me because he is body builder hoever he try to adopt BTD and he says that despite the fact he is "A" body building doesn't bother in any thing and he feels excellent . As I said I do more dynamic sports so I need some kind of mechanism that helps me improve results etc.....

BTW I study a lot and carrefully BTD diet and try to find as much benefits as possible  

Many thanks for discusion

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I have an awful habit of remembering a fact without remembering the source I heard or read it from but perhaps it is worth repeating anyway:

Stevia is somehow connected to infertility in men.  

Please correct me if I am misquoting or just plain wrong, but if there's a chance it is true, it would be important to let everyone know about it.


Well , scientists say that stevia is ver healthfull and cure many diseases like hihg blood preasure, diabetes, helps in flew, weight loose etc.. Has no callories or just few. One small spoon of can sweeten 1 liter of water.
"Stevia is somehow connected to infertility in men."   I didn,t found anything about that  
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