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Henriette Bsec
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Hi
I have tried several times to convince my sister to do the B diet ,,, but somehow she has never been motivated to do it - BUT now she has asked me to finetune the first papers- I gave her years ago:

Her problem:
32 yo female B rh- very likely secretor with 25 kg overweight, allergies, dry skin- and too liitle progesteron/high oestrogen problems.

At the moment some/most of the worst red fllags are gone in her diet:
but she still lives almost vegetarian during week
= too much grain,sugar and seeds, some cheese, very little egg and fat- good ammount of veggies /fruit. Some protein in weekend mainly beef, lamb- some pork
BUT she won´t eat any fish- I mean ANY fish.

So I´m trying to make her a list without B fish

MY thoughts:
She needs far more protein about 90-100 grams pure protein.
( she gets about 40-50 grams pr day= enough for a slim petite woman)

Without the fish- can I up the meat and egg servings pr week?? - just for a while.

It will be hard getting so much protein without more meat-egg.

I think it would be benficial  for her to take fish oil tablets to get omega 3- now that she only gets a little from walnuts.
Should she go for the normal level:  1  gram pr day- or the preganant/breastfeeding: 3 gram pr day ?
- remember no other good sourse .

I have the allergy book - and will use that with LRT  to finetune the papers I´ll give her.


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I doubt it would hurt for her to take 2 grams but split it up into twice a day when she eats. Otherwise she'll burp up the taste of fish. I hope you can get turkey or goat because lamb lamb lamb lamb might get tiresome. Maybe when she loses 10 kilos she will decide she is willing to try fish. She might have tried it without knowing how to cook it though.
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Alia Vo
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Supplement protein by using other acceptable B protein sources (use the highest frequency/portion guidelines):  legumes and beans, nuts/seeds, seaweeds, dairy, eggs.

For personal, ethical, moral, religious reasons not all individuals will eat from all of the suggested ER4YT food groups.

Alia


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Henriette Bsec
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Quoted from gulfcoastguy
she will decide she is willing to try fish. She might have tried it without knowing how to cook it though.


Oh - I don´t think so !
She is a stubborn kid. The rest of the family is very good cooks - and we always have eaten a lot of fish. She only likes very fresh prawns and lobsters.......

I would call myself a choosy fish eater as well- somehow I prefer all the expnsive fish   guees it must be my leoness


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A couple of suggestions. First, though it against your rules, flaked Tuna. I have found that even people who are very fish negative can handle Tuna if it is in a mixed dish or casserole where other flavours or spices mask the taste. Tuna is so bland that even Onion can cover it up.

Second, how is she on mushrooms? Again a bland food but it does provide protein without the fats found in meats. Here as well the flavour can be masked.





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BTW at the wedding I went to this weekend they had tuna tartar....on avodaco. Oh well at least I had my deflect with me. I'll blame it on the Merlot.
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Quoted from gulfcoastguy
BTW at the wedding I went to this weekend they had tuna tartar....on avodaco. Oh well at least I had my deflect with me. I'll blame it on the Merlot.


I must admit advocado is one of my down pits as well.

Hi shoulderblade - Nope not even tuna....
But musrooms are fine- but they don´t look that high on protein to me.
I´m not too worried about meat/fat.... at least not for a period.

I have written to her:
Eat the high number of  dry beans, eggs and meat.
Make sure to get all your servings of cheese and nuts pr week
Have protein - at all meals.
Like eggs for breakfast, beans for lunch, meat for dinner- nuts and cheese as a snack- all this with lots of veggies, and fruits.
IF she follow this she would get at least 70 grams protein pr day - some days more... but that is far better than her:
low fat yoghurt with fruit breakfast, sandwich with thin slice of cheese and raw veggies lunch, apple and cookie snack, pasta and cheese sause dinner!







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Alia Vo
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Sounds like a strategic place to start--aiming for the highest frequencies allowed in lieu of subtitutions for protein food groups not represented.

Alia


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Hopefully she will experience the same as:
after a few years just eating the beneficials that I THOUGHT that I liked- I found out that I really liked other beneficilas as well -like: salmon, lamb,watermelon, feta cheese, kale, etc.....


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Hey Henriette,
Good for you!!  



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Henriette Bsec
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one gets wiser - don´t we ?


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You'll want to get the EFAs besides just worrying about the protein.
Flax/Hemp Oil, more Olive, and Sprouts can't hurt.


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Henriette Bsec
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Thanks Schlüggel- I´ll add the flax as well- forgot all about it .


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Our tastes also change as we eat more compliantly...  What didn't taste good when we started the diet, may taste much better after we have cleaned some of the garbage out!


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