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I see suggestions in LR4YT for type As and type Bs to live in accordance with their circadian rhythms, but I don't see circadian rhythms mentioned in the type O chapter. Does this mean that type Os don't benefit from living in harmony with a circadian rhythm? Or do they just handle the stress of staying up late one night a week better than a type A or a type B? |
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yes, they do certainly, but I think that the A's and B's are a bit more in need to have an  onto this because ot their tendencies to live with higher cortisol levels  and O's and AB's are more prone to go for the catecholamines as a certain stress-response  |
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live in accordance with their circadian rhythms, you'll age slower regardless of blood type |
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I think controlling and maintaining circadian rhythm is particularly important for blood type A's because we can have an inclination towards having high cortisol levels, if we do not control our cortisol levels through stress control, food, exercise, and lifestyle choices.
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Quoted from PenguinWarrior
I see suggestions in LR4YT for type As and type Bs to live in accordance with their circadian rhythms, but I don't see circadian rhythms mentioned in the type O chapter. Does this mean that type Os don't benefit from living in harmony with a circadian rhythm? Or do they just handle the stress of staying up late one night a week better than a type A or a type B?
An O might get by w/ staying up late one night a week, but do that very often, add some surgeries, accidents, death of loved ones, job changes, stressors period and over the years, you will likely not be able to handle it anymore. Add in some chronic bronchities, sinus issues, asthma, sickness period and your odds are even worse. Once your stress levels are so high and stay high, your adrenals begin to fail. They can't keep up. Staying up late forces your adrenals to basically work a second shift. Doing 2 days work in one. Not good. Getting to bed before 11 PM and getting some decent rest (which def includes your deep sleep portion) is as I understand it, pretty essential to keeping healthy. |
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Sounds like the voice of experience speaking, eh, Pat?  |
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Sounds like the voice of experience speaking, eh, Pat? 
eh....unfortunately yes. I do think the supps are starting to help a bit. Have a long road ahead but keeping my fingers crossed.  NP says the doing BTD puts me ahead of the game.  Chalk up one more great reason to BTD. |
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Hi folks,
perhaps one of the more profound books I have read on this topic is 'Lights Out' by TS Wiley. In it she explains a little of the hormone shifting induced by sleep. For BTD this 'shift' happens to all blood types (even to all species) and seems to be THE answer for many common woes. As one example: an experiment was done on small animals who were specifically bred to develop cancer. These were split into two groups: A - those that followed regular 'human' schedules for sleeping, and B - a second group that was permitted to sleep whenever they wished. All other factors like diet were identical. RESULTS: the animals in group A got tumours right on schedule and died. The animals in the B group did not ever get cancer, the researchers couldn't give them cancer by painting their skin with known carcinogens. Remember that these were specially bred to develop cancer.
The same format overcomes: heart disease, obesity, type II diabetes, etc....
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Wow John, that is remarkable. And believable. Once you understand how important sleep is and getting it when you should be, it all starts to make sense. I can see how keeping a sleep schedule will help my adrenals heal faster. Knowledge is power.  Will def have to pick up that book. I've seen you post it before, but never looked into it. I will now. Your persistance paid off, for me.  Thanks again. And how are YOU feeling? |
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Hi IB,
don't know quite how to answer that. I feeling about the same as before, but assume that I need to travel into some uncharted waters to find more complete health enhancement. In some ways, I find that BTD is a great start ... eating organic foods and grass-fed meat is beyond my present financial capacities. I suspect that a whole lot of improvement would not happen, even if I could afford such perfection.
Right now, the fields of proper exercise and energies hold the most promise.
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Quoted from John_McDonell_O+
. . These were split into two groups: A - those that followed regular 'human' schedules for sleeping, and B - a second group that was permitted to sleep whenever they wished. All other factors like diet were identical. RESULTS: the animals in group A got tumours right on schedule and died. The animals in the B group did not ever get cancer, the researchers couldn't give them cancer by painting their skin with known carcinogens. John
This is interesting, and seems to say the opposite of what I would have thought. This is saying that the animals who resisted cancer were the ones who were able to sleep whenever they wished, and not on a schedule. I thought it was best to get in bed before 11 pm and up at daylight. This seems to be saying that if we are tired, we should allow our bodies to sleep, no matter what time it is, and if we are not sleepy, we should not go to bed until we are. Is this what she is saying, John? |
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yes, it is a bit confusing ........hope John gives us his take on this, or perhaps there is a typo in his statement. |
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nope Victoria,
that's the way most humans act now. She says: to bed when the sun goes down and arise only when it comes up again. For most temperate zone dwellers, it will mean extended hours roughly 7 months of the year(winter+) ... over 10.5 hours each night (here it's 16.5 around Christmas). To relax and get to sleep our pineal gland releases melatonin. Only AFTER melatonin has been released for 3.5 hours does the body release the hormone prolactin. It is this second hormone that does all the healing.
Modern problem - melatonin is extremely light-sensitive and will cease being released with ANY (even very faint) light. When it stops, so too does prolactin, and so too does deep healing.
A person who sleeps late, only after lights are turned-out likely never gets this healing ... for decades. If you wake from sleep, roll over and you'll be asleep within 15 minutes. Just never expose yourself to any light, even night-lights or red LED-lights on alarm clocks. [An indigo-purple light is likely OK, but has never been researched.]
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I have recently darkened my room as is suggested in the "Lights Out" book and although I haven't started sleeping longer... yet... I have noticed that my sleep is much, much more restful. I rarely wake up now during the night... unless from that midlife heat experience...  |
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Thank you for clarifying, John. Since the days have become shorter in Oregon, and the nights longer, I always feel that my usual 8 1/2 hours a night in bed is not long enough any more. Problem is that if I go to bed when I'm really, really tired, that will be at around 9 pm. I will go right to sleep and then wake up a couple of hours later and have a hard time going back to sleep.
But if I go to bed at 10:45 pm, I'll sleep soundly for 5 or 6 hours before I wake up to change positions. Perhaps time is needed to retrain the body. |
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Quoted from Victoria
This is saying that the animals who resisted cancer were the ones who were able to sleep whenever they wished, and not on a schedule. I thought it was best to get in bed before 11 pm and up at daylight. This seems to be saying that if we are tired, we should allow our bodies to sleep, no matter what time it is, and if we are not sleepy, we should not go to bed until we are. Is this what she is saying, John?
I took this to mean that if we needed extra sleep beyond the sleep we should be getting at night, that it was helpful. I know there are many times thru the day I could use a nap.  Have actually had to pull over and take a 15 min nap on my drive home ( 1 hour ) many times in the past. Hopefully soon, that will be a thing of the past.  |
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Italybound, this has been a huge prob for me too....I am doing well to get 6 hr a night. including one bathroom break at the minimum. Its getting better for me now. using progest cream has helped. I used to get sooooosleepy driving hoime from work...I seriously contemplated pulling over for a nap (but didn't)....it was not as long as your drive but I could swear I slept at the stop light for a second or so. |
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Hi IB,
animals (especially wild animals) do have sort of a very strict schedule. The sun (light/dark) shifts their hormone levels profoundly. So while many species wake-up at the dark, humans wish to sleep then. Only humans have clocks and judge the healing of their sleep by the number of clock hours that they sleep. Too few of us align our sleep patterns with the day/night shift. Our bodies do make such a shift in hormone levels, but our clocks say that it is not-yet time to sleep.
And then we wonder why we die. Over and over, I've read that according to our DNA, we should average lives of 120 years ... then why don't we? Perhaps, it is because we fail to heal properly - a function of prolactin at night.
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John I think your comment makes so much sense  - I just made a speak at college as a part of my rhetoric class were I used some of your info - on seasonal eating, and light/ darkness- etc combine with my knowledge on archeology / danish prehistory. Afterwards- people came to me and asked about more info- but also had the (true) comment that is hard to shift back to a more natural approach on sleep, seasonal eating etc - when you life in a clockoriented busy modern world. |
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Interesting site, Pat. |
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