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Is this possible?  Sometimes b/c of hectic lifestyle, I end up with frozen veggies that aren't organic.  Can these be soaked to help remove at least a little of the pesticides?  And if so, would you just soak them in a lemon/water mixture....  vinegar/water....hydrogen peroxide/water....mixture?


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Is this possible?  Sometimes b/c of hectic lifestyle, I end up with frozen veggies that aren't organic.  Can these be soaked to help remove at least a little of the pesticides?  And if so, would you just soak them in a lemon/water mixture....  vinegar/water....hydrogen peroxide/water....mixture?


It would depend on the veggie I think. And whether the pesticide is IN the veg or ON the veg. If you have to eat them, then def soak in a veggie rinse. I use a Sunrider Veggie Rinse. Some use a very diluted bleach water (not for me tho) and I'm sure there are some other things out there as well. Others will be along w/ more info shortly........



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I think most of the frozen vegetables have already been rinsed and blanched to kill the enzymes so they don't turn to cardboard while frozen...  I don't know that soaking them is going to remove anything more from them.


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frozen veggies are mostly precooked.....
I wouldn t do anything to them.......just add them to your cooking a few mins before turning off the heat.


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I've never heard that.  I've always read and been told that next to fresh veggies, frozen are the next best thing b/c they are frozen right after they are harvested, thus preserving nutrients.  If my memory serves, I believe Dr. D said something about this at some point.  I know we've discussed fresh vs. frozen vs. canned, etc....before.  It's my understanding that frozen are actually pretty high up there on the "good for you" scale.  

And while soaking them wouldn't get ALL of the pesticides out, of course...especially the ones that have worked their way IN to the veggie, would it help with the external?  


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connect,
it's just not worth soaking/washing them as you'll lose too much in the way of the flavour and the texture. Throw your frozen veg - whilst still frozen - into a pot of boiling salted water cooking them for the minimum amount of time. Boiling them in salted water will remove any additional pesticides - perhaps not one hundred percent... but then there is always the organic frozen veg.

And yes, frozen veg is often 'treated' prior to freezing. Green beans for example, do not freeze well unless they are lightly cooked/blanched first.
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ps not all nutrients are saved...vit c is usually the first casualty in freezing



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Thanks eh.  I appreciate the knowledge.
Do I have to "boil" them or can I just add some salt to the water and then steam them?  Would this yield the same result?  

Thanks!


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Connect,
Aim to immerse them in the water - but only briefly - so that they are, in effect,  washed by the boiling water.

But if you think about it, veg like frozen peas are unlikely to be contaminated in any significant way because they are shelled before they are frozen.  


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This is true!

One other thing:
will immersing them in the boiling water destroy any of the nutrients?  Should I just do it for a couple of minutes?  You aren't talking to the brightest person in the kitchen    


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yep, boiling always destroys something (so does steaming) - just blanch the veg if you are really concerned (immerse for 10 secs) - and then rinse under running cold water. Better to do it this way than the other way around (ie wash and then cook).
The final cold water rinse accomplishes two things: stops the cooking process and also rinses off any additional residues.


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when freezing some veggies, they have to be blanched (boiled for 3-4 min) to stop the enzymatic action. Then dunk in ice water for a few minutes. (this is how I do it anyway  )    To my understanding this basically keeps them from spoiling while in the freezer. If the enzyme action isn't stopped, they keep ripening. I don't know if I"m saying this right and I'm bushed, so someone else may have to get us up to the right speed if that is incorrect.




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Very well done, IB...

One way to capture the vites lost in the cooking water is to either drink it or use it in soup...

Of course, you have to determine what is more important, pesticide removal or vitamin retention...

Personally, I'm more concerned with losing the vitamins...


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Well, now I'm a bit confused.  I thought steaming was a good way to prepare veggies b/c you didn't lose as much of the vitamins?  


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..that's true, connect. But heat sensitive vitamins are still destroyed and some leaching will occur with steaming. But weren't you more concerned about the pesticide levels? eh


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Yes..pesticide levels......but I also want the nutrients too!  I suppose I eat enough vegetables that I must be getting some of the nutrients.

Here's an article I just found:

http://onhealth.webmd.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56510


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Quoted from connect14
Yes..pesticide levels......but I also want the nutrients too!  I suppose I eat enough vegetables that I must be getting some of the nutrients.

Here's an article I just found:

http://onhealth.webmd.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56510



Just eat more, connect!

Interesting that the article doesn't mention the percentage of antioxidants measured lost by the researchers in blanching/boiling vegetables.

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I think most of the frozen vegetables have already been rinsed and blanched to kill the enzymes so they don't turn to cardboard while frozen...  I don't know that soaking them is going to remove anything more from them.


As the water and freezing bath the veggies are washed isn't certified for food safety, giving them a rinse will clean off the dirty residue - I agree soaking is redundant, however the real issue with Processed Frozen Foods won't necessarily be solved by washing or soaking.


The safest way to cook vegetables is with 'Waterless Cookware' - which is essentially steaming without added water - but you still lose some nutrients...



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So really, the only way to not lose nutrients is to eat them raw....but that sometimes yields other, completely different issues, as well..........

Waterless cookware sounds interesting......


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..save your pennies on the cookware, connect! and just add your frozen veg to whatever you are cooking, especially casseroles. That way you are not throwing away any of the nutrients with the bathwater


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