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san j
Friday, October 20, 2006, 10:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Some encouragement for "will power" for y'all out there. My current blog (Santé_j)

You CAN do it!


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so important!!
great support by the way!


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Re this subect, I'm not a smoker, never have been but my mum is 'dying' very painfully and slowly, daily, with emphysema. She's 75 and probably smoked since she was 13. She's on oxygen 24 hours per day and of course knows her end.  

I have a good friend and neighbour who is 68 years old, a smoker. She knows how sick my mum is, not because I've laboured the point but she knows how worried I am about her and so she would ask how she was? I think, believing I'd say that she was now 'much better'. I think it frightened her because she was already sufferering with the 'cough' that never seems to go and was 'breathless', at times when walking.  

We have the same GP and I was really surprised at the common sense advice he gave her. She told him she 'wanted' to stop smoking. He told her he could give her all sorts to help her but told her how he gave up.
He told her to set a particular date in her mind ie Xmas Day, your birthday, next Monday or tomorrow....just identify 'a day'. Then 'aim' to not smoke on that day (only).
This she did...and so one day led to the next and so on. That was almost 2 months ago. I know it's not been easy for her sometimes, stressful situations have almost made her start again but somehow she's getting there. And she's managed it HERSELF and as exj said, she had no need of a programme or aids of any kind.

Best of all, she says that with the money she's not spending on them she can buy a luxury item when she feels like it!!!
I'm really happy for her.  



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I had an attorney friend that was an alcoholic.  Last I new he had been drink free for 15 years.  He would say, "Every time I want a drink, I say, I'l have one later."  It works for him.

I can imagine the same thing works for all addictions, if the person makes up their mind to maintain it.

I try to think of avoids the same way...


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Great blog and so true.  Now I have to remember that for my husband and him quitting chewing tobacco.  He gave it up once for a few months and then went back to it.  He wants to quit but no amount of my nagging will ever help him quit - so I just quietly sit back and pray that in time God will give him the strength needed to quit and I am confident some day he will have his last chew and not look back.  


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Quoted from janet
She told him she 'wanted' to stop smoking.


THIS is the real trick. Wanting to. Really wanting to. If you dont really want to, no amount of patches, ear whatever ya call it, nagging, etc is going to make any dif.
I wanted a baby so I quit. I just layed them down and I was done. Forever. I had motivation. I had a reason. I wanted to quit.
Janet, great story about your neighbor. Sorry to hear the sad news about your mom. I knew she was sick, but not why.
mhameline, here's hoping your DH will kick the habit also.
I wish my stepson would quit. He's 35 and has been in the hospital 3 times. The first time we really thought he had a heart attack. He's a smoker and an alcoholic. Also has high BP.  He does have some kind of heart problem. One he'll either have to have open heart surgery for or take meds the rest of his life. Or BTD. He knows of it, but...................
I'm afraid my DH will outlive him. So are they both. Yet my stepson has to want to quit, for himself, for his kids.  It's sad to watch.  



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I'm a Podiatrist and I can tell if a patient is a smoker as soon as I see the lower limb, it causes peripheral vascular disease.

I have noticed over the years that when a smoker quits their corns and callous dissapear, or become alot less troublesome, the skin is softer, so a big advantage as if the feet are improved it must improve all over the body, therefore less facial lines.

Hope this helps. Seren.


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I'm a Podiatrist and I can tell if a patient is a smoker as soon as I see the lower limb, it causes peripheral vascular disease.I have noticed over the years that when a smoker quits their corns and callous dissapear, or become alot less troublesome, the skin is softer, so a big advantage as if the feet are improved it must improve all over the body, therefore less facial lines..


seren, let me warmly welcome you to BTD and the forum!  
Very interesting post. So, more advantages to being a 'nonnie' than we thought - nonnie as in non-smoker.



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Great information, Seren.  Along those same lines of thought, it is easy then to understand why smokers have such poor color in their faces, and look older than their years.



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Great blog exj_j. I am currently on day #126 of my new non-smoking life. I set a date and quit. That's all, cold turkey, nada, never again. My Mother in law passed away in June from complications related to emphesema. My husband quit the day before me and his best friend quit 11 days after me. My Sister in law quit last week.

My neighbor smokes and told me that if I get really good at it maybe I could teach him. I said "It is really simple; after you put that one out just don't ever light up another." To which I got a snide chuckle... Okay it hasn't always been easy, but it has always been simple.

I know the power of addiction and I have to say that I'm just a puff away from a pack a day... that keeps me from even being tempted. I've quit before and I know all it would take is just one.

I'm a firm believer that nicotine replacement is just that. There is still nicotine getting into your system which makes you crave more. My opinion is that it's just another way for big tobacco to get you/our money. As recent studies show, big tobacco could not care less about smokers. They lie about their product and lure children in everyday. Making it easier to get addicted and harder to get free.

For any one wanting resources for quitting and some really eye-opening reading try this site. Note: it is a tough love sort of site... no coddling here:
http://whyquit.com/

It helped me and everyday is a better one with out that nasty addiction... Deep breaths!


Sharon

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I wish my stepson would quit. He's 35 and has been in the hospital 3 times. The first time we really thought he had a heart attack. He's a smoker and an alcoholic. Also has high BP.  He does have some kind of heart problem. One he'll either have to have open heart surgery for or take meds the rest of his life. Or BTD. He knows of it, but...................
I'm afraid my DH will outlive him. So are they both. Yet my stepson has to want to quit, for himself, for his kids.  It's sad to watch.  


So glad you were able to kick that awful habit Pat.
Pat, it makes me want to weep, to read about people who are abusing their bodies seemingly, without a thought for the people closest to them - but that's addiction for you!! I have a brother who's an alcoholic too and a sister fast going the same route. I strongly believe this could be something to do with genes, as my grandmother drank too...thank God I didn't get that gene!!!

slee - Well done to you!!


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For any one wanting resources for quitting and some really eye-opening reading try this site. Note: it is a tough love sort of site... no coddling here:
http://whyquit.com/

It helped me and everyday is a better one with out that nasty addiction... Deep breaths!


Thank you so much for posting this.
I have been a 'closet smoker' for some time now and I am stuck in a rut. Quit for a month, smoke for two. Quit for 3 months, smoke for 6. I never smoke at work or work related events, but the second I get home it's anohter story.
I printed off much of the material on the website and set up a notebook to refer to.
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Good for you Page. I was a closet smoker for a long time too. When people found out I smoked they were mostly shocked because I try to take care of myself as far as exercise and diet. Most of my co-workers didn't know I even smoked. But, like you, once I got home it was a free-for-all! Luckily we stopped smoking in the house seven years ago, so that wasn't too hard. The garage and back deck held lots of memories though! I can go a couple days now without giving much thought to smoking, but it's hard when I'm bored. I know that there is no way I can EVER even take a puff without starting all over.

There is a lot of fantastic information there and a lot of support on the boards (my user name there is "ssp64")... a lot of reasons to never take another puff!

Keep us posted on how you are doing.

Thanks MoDon for linking that up for me!


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I finally remembered where the article was that I wanted to post. I ran across it in doing some research for my niece. She has poor circulation in her hands and feet and as she's a smoker, I suspect that is her prob or a big part of it at least. Ran across this and I've got to say, if I were a smoker, I think this would make me take pause. I can assure you that it would not take 'the big house' to fall on me that it took this gal, finally.  
Here we go:
http://whyquit.com/joel/Joel_02_18_circulatory_damage.html



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I was a smoker and an alcoholic is my younger days.  Never stop quitting, stay away from others that smoke, take up a hobby to keep your mind off of it.  And don't worry, everything will be alright after you quit.  6 weeks after I quit, I could stay off but there was still a erge there.  6 months went by and I felt great.  Give it time.  My addiction pattern is the same for everything, if I can't quit for more than 6 weeks I'm addicted.        

I quit by locking myself in a room, playing video games and guitar for 6 weeks and then came out into the world as a new person.  I was nearly just as addicted to acohol.  It's sad how many kids fall into the trap of these drugs.
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Quoted from saverain
It's sad how many kids fall into the trap of these drugs.


Many of them start because of peer pressure, which is sometimes someone wanting a partner in crime so there are two (or more) people for the "authority figure" to be mad at.

I usually ask kids why they do negative things (drinking, smoking, or worse), just to make them think about it a bit.  I know I've been a positive influence on several.  


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Okay it hasn't always been easy, but it has always been simple.

This is SO great!

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I'm a firm believer that nicotine replacement is just that.

This is true for me too in BTD (just begun my 9th month), I believe that avoids replacement is just the way for me to go about it, i.e. having enough ready beneficial foods around me at all times, which in themselves support me and the process immensely.

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My opinion is that it's just another way for big tobacco to get you/our money.

I never stop commenting something to that effect almost whenever I pass by someone who has just come out of the hospital building where I work to light a cigarette: 'it's not worth your money'. They mostly smile back.

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As recent studies show, big tobacco could not care less about smokers. They lie about their product and lure children in everyday. Making it easier to get addicted and harder to get free.

Murderers.

Thank you Slee for this post, I'm relieved to hear you have your small close group supporting each other, makes it easier. You sound so serious to me, it supports me too. I have never smoked, but I lost my father to cigarettes 33 years ago (there were still no heart centers about at that time), before I became 26 (it means that all my childhood I had actually been a passive smoker), and I am still asking myself from time to time, How are you Daddy.



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This is for Page. I couldn't PM you because your mailbox is full (or at least that's the message I got back).
Go to the WhyQuit site, the far right column is dedicated to Freedom's site (which is the board) it's labeled "Support". If you click on "Freedom from Tobacco" it will take you to the message boards. I usually click on "Current topics under discussion". It is in bold type about three grey boxes down. You can read freely at any time. You can only post after being free from nicotine (any and all- including noco replcement devices) for 72 hours.
This might sound silly, but being a member has actually saved me from relapsing. At one point early in my quit I thought about how I wouldn't be able to post again if I smoked...I didn't take that puff and am so glad for it now.
The truth Page, is that this is indeed an addiction. Don't beat yourself up, just educate yourself on how to handle the craves. Keep a list of why you want to quit..health, money, smell, social outcast etcetera...
You will be amazed at how liberating it is. Especially if you have been a closet smoker. The always waiting for the perfect moment, the guilt associated with getting caught, all of that will be in the past. I can't tell you how much I enjoy not having to make time for a fix.
Don't wait another 10 years to do this. It really is so do-able. I wish I had stuck to it when I was 30 and quit for the first time. My problem was I didn't realize that I couldn't 'just have one'.
Good Luck Page, you can do this!

Thanks Yael, I'm sorry about your Dad, my eyes welled up reading the last line of your post.
My Dad quit smoking in 1964, the  year I was born. He has been avidly against it since. My Mom still smokes, she is 65. She doesn't show signs yet, but I can't imagine that she doesn't have emphysema, at least early stages. I hope I can inspire her to quit too. I know she wants to. EVERY one I know who smokes WANTS to quit. We puff away saying "yeah, I know, I need to quit...someday... Blah blah blah." Well, my someday came 130 days ago.

And btw, this is serious. This is life or death eventually. I just hope I quit in time. I was so good at smoking too... I know if I could quit any body can quit!


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This is for Page. I couldn't PM you because your mailbox is full (or at least that's the message I got back).


Sorry about that. I just realized it.

Thanks so much for posting all of this. I will get on right now.
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cigarette is like a nuggi, you must put something into your mouth as a form of recompense  
prefere today to get a real *candy* or whatsoever  
and it doesn't only harm your lungs and bronches, but also intestines, stomach...all...all..all kind of
demmage is done by that , and it stinks from its finest....very bäääää

when somebody smoked, and then wants to tell me something I get malade comme un chien
peoples don't  even realize how does this stink beurx...beurx..

Do you want to kiss  an ashtray..no... so why do you still smoke

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