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Ronagon
Saturday, April 7, 2007, 1:29pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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It's just the weirdest thing... both my parents are secretors, yet I'm a non-secretor.

And as far as my mom being a lewis double-negative, I would have no earthly idea how to test for that.  The only thing I can tell you is that she might have the fingernail ridges.  Her diet has been terrible, all her life, and her mouth, poor thing, is all filled with dentistry.
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Lewis Double Negative (LDN)
A small section (1-4% of the population
dependent on race) will be Lewis Double
Negative (LDN; Lewis (a-b-)) and for which
Lewis typing cannot be used to determine ABH
secretor status. In these individuals
determination via saliva is necessary. However,
it may be helpful to think of LDN
individuals as a special category of non-
secretor, since they do lack the Lewis b
antigen (like the traditional ABH non-
secretors). In most instances LDNs share the
same metabolic consequences as ABH non-
secretors, and in a few, such as
cardiovascular disease and insulin resistance,
actually have the most severe variations."


Lewis a-b- (Lewis Double Negative-LDN), the secretor status remains unknown. An LDN can be secretor or non-secretor.


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Ronagon
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Lola,

Yes, but how do you TEST for Lewis?  That's not possible with just the saliva test, is it?
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In these individuals
determination via saliva is necessary, yes.


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Lola,

Yes, but how do you TEST for Lewis?  That's not possible with just the saliva test, is it?


Hi Ronagon,

Lewis test is a blood test.

Cheers,
Yaman


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You can get the Lewis typing done by the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine.

They can also testing for the following:
ABO type
A1 or A2 subtype
Rh +/-
Lewis type
MN type

You should probably make sure you have a way of getting the blood drawn before ordering the test kit. Some people have said they haven't found anyone to do it, at least without a doctor's lab order.


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Where else in the country can this testing be done? The web site implies there are a few.
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It's a nonnie epidemic!  I just received my results, and I too am a nonnie!  I was very surprised, due to my extreme headache reaction to dried bananas. But... as I read more about the health problems experienced by nonnies, thick blood, dental cavities, ulcers etc. I said "that's me!" Time for some dietary tweaking!  


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Quoted from ironwood55
You can get the Lewis typing done by the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine.

They can also testing for the following:
ABO type
A1 or A2 subtype
Rh +/-
Lewis type
MN type

You should probably make sure you have a way of getting the blood drawn before ordering the test kit. Some people have said they haven't found anyone to do it, at least without a doctor's lab order.


MoDon -
Where can you order the test from?  I can't find a link?


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Contact them. It is not set up like an online store.


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480-970-0000   Ask for a
collection kit for the the DSP, or "D'Adamo
Serotype Panel."

lab page:
http://www.scnm.edu/medcenter/laboratory.php


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